The final couple plays in the loss to the raptors

[incoherent]

The play where Ray Allen "loses" the ball.  We are up by 1 and theres about 16 seconds on the clock... in that particular situation every NBA team purposely fouls, otherwise the clock runs out and the other team wins.

So what did the Raptors do? They purposely fouled Allen across the arm, directly in front of the ref, maybe 5 feet from the refs face.

The result? No Call/turnover.

This to me is crazy.  Who cares how the game played, the refs literally handed them the game with this non call.  A play that happens all the time in many NBA games every night, or any game that's close.

Team's always purposely foul to stop the clock, why did the ref not make the call?

Pretty bad....

To make things worse the foul on Pierce in the end which was clearly an all ball block, not even with the body or anything.

[mmbaby]

That's really a good point. No call at the critical moment.
Didn't something similar happen in the last game, too, where we were fouling the player at the end of the game and he had to go through 4 of us before finally having to stop for a foul?

[mgent]

I can't answer this question for you.  80% of the time the refs call the game in favor of the Celtics' opponent, and I say this as unbiasedly as possible.  Sometimes it's slight, sometimes it's by a lot.  Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not.  Today was one of those days when it was blatantly obvious.  They constantly called tacky fouls which didn't let us get in a groove on defense, and stopped us from getting our offense going against Toronto's weak defense.  It also caused our big men to get in foul trouble against their frontline, which is again one of their weaknesses.

Maybe I don't watch enough games all around the league to fully observe every BS foul.  But I know whenever I watch LA (the NBA's team) or LeBron (the NBA's favorite god) they don't seem to suffer from the same bad officiating as we do.  In fact it's usually the other way around, in which the refs are making bad calls in FAVOR of them.  I don't see how the NBA gets away with purposely making it easier for other teams to win against us.

[vinnie]

I can't answer this question for you.  80% of the time the refs call the game in favor of the Celtics' opponent, and I say this as unbiasedly as possible.  Sometimes it's slight, sometimes it's by a lot.  Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not.  Today was one of those days when it was blatantly obvious.  They constantly called tacky fouls which didn't let us get in a groove on defense, and stopped us from getting our offense going against Toronto's weak defense.  It also caused our big men to get in foul trouble against their frontline, which is again one of their weaknesses.

Maybe I don't watch enough games all around the league to fully observe every BS foul.  But I know whenever I watch LA (the NBA's team) or LeBron (the NBA's favorite god) they don't seem to suffer from the same bad officiating as we do.  In fact it's usually the other way around, in which the refs are making bad calls in FAVOR of them.  I don't see how the NBA gets away with purposely making it easier for other teams to win against us.

The Raptors took 39 free throws today, the Celtics took 38. Maybe that should have been a foul on Ray at the end of the game, but I do not think the guy was trying to intentionally foul him.

[mgent]

I can't answer this question for you.  80% of the time the refs call the game in favor of the Celtics' opponent, and I say this as unbiasedly as possible.  Sometimes it's slight, sometimes it's by a lot.  Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not.  Today was one of those days when it was blatantly obvious.  They constantly called tacky fouls which didn't let us get in a groove on defense, and stopped us from getting our offense going against Toronto's weak defense.  It also caused our big men to get in foul trouble against their frontline, which is again one of their weaknesses.

Maybe I don't watch enough games all around the league to fully observe every BS foul.  But I know whenever I watch LA (the NBA's team) or LeBron (the NBA's favorite god) they don't seem to suffer from the same bad officiating as we do.  In fact it's usually the other way around, in which the refs are making bad calls in FAVOR of them.  I don't see how the NBA gets away with purposely making it easier for other teams to win against us.

The Raptors took 39 free throws today, the Celtics took 38. Maybe that should have been a foul on Ray at the end of the game, but I do not think the guy was trying to intentionally foul him.

Me either.  They would have at least waited until we got the ball past halfcourt.

[BadNewsBarnes]

I don't think he was trying to foul him intentionally.  He made a legitimate attempt to steal the ball.  The problem was he never touched the ball and clearly fouled Ray.  The official was right there and for reasons we can only speculate about failed to make the correct call.  You can bet if it were the other way around he would've called it.  The officiating in this league is just awful.

[fairweatherfan]

There were some perplexing calls tonight - remember Calderon getting the charge well inside the circle?  Paul didn't start that move from the block, so that's a block as far as I know.  The Ray turnover was a clear foul that may have cost us the game, and I'm pretty sure Paul blocked Johnson cleanly at the end too.

And some of it went the other way too - they almost blew that play where KG batted it out of bounds on the break (and did T Calderon for protesting).  I'm not a conspiracy guy but the refs were badly off their games last night.  Maybe the noon start messes with them too.

[manl_lui]

i also think that last play was a foul, the replay clearly shows the foul on Ray Allens arm

what p---es me off even more was the charge call on Pierce...whoever it was, was CLEARLY and I mean CLEARLY inside the box...it shouldve been an easy 100% blocking foul call, instead Pierce got the charge call

[mmbaby]

Yeah I noticed that too and was wondering if anyone else did. Pierce being called for offensive foul when the guy was within the circle, where he shouldn't have been. Not like Baby who stays outside the box. The whole call was ass backwards.

[celtics2]

Screw the refs we lost it playing dumb. Missing critical foul shots, turnovers in crunch time and clock management. We're just coasting remember. Played fairly well without Rondo. I swear the NBA was better with just 2 refs.

[DesertDweller]

the truth of the matter is as far as officiating....between basketball and football...i'm really fed up!!!  they have changed football into, I don't know what.  and in b-ball they are just not consistant

[xmuscularghandix]

the truth of the matter is as far as officiating....between basketball and football...i'm really fed up!!!  they have changed football into, I don't know what.  and in b-ball they are just not consistant

I watched a nice day of football today. And really didn’t see a play that i didn’t agree with.


NBA is getting a little ridiculous. The fact that refs will call EVERYTHING throughout the game, and then not call a foul that was supposed to be intentional?!? But i’ll take that one because once again The Celtics really didn’t deserve to win in Toronto.

[Jeff]

Who cares how the game played, the refs literally handed them the game with this non call.

I'm pretty much exactly on the other side of this perspective.

Who cares how the game is played?  I care because 9 times out of 10 we'll get that call, but if we don't play better than we've been playing then we put ourselves in the position to leave the game in the hands of the officials.

[incoherent]

Who cares how the game played, the refs literally handed them the game with this non call.

I'm pretty much exactly on the other side of this perspective.

Who cares how the game is played?  I care because 9 times out of 10 we'll get that call, but if we don't play better than we've been playing then we put ourselves in the position to leave the game in the hands of the officials.

I definitely see this point of view.

The problem is that so far this season we have had what... 3 OTs.. multiple other very close games.

Chances are we are going to be in many many more down to the wire games. 

Regardless of whos court you are on or how the game is played, when the team who is winning by 1 has the ball and the other team fouls you, it needs to be called 10 out of 10 times.  9 out of 10 times on that particular play means the refs are blowing 1 out of 10 games.. that is not acceptable.

[housecall]

This game happen'd earlier enough in the season to give them a wakeup call...a game aganist the Toronto Raptors should never have been that close in the fourth.