If the two O'Neals and Perk are healthy, BBD isn't a rotation player. (albeit a big "if")
Grant Hill would be. He is a good improvement over Marquis.
That's 3 centers. We'd be left with one playoff caliber power forward in KG. Jermaine O'Neal is barely fast enough at this point to cover centers: PF for him is out of the question.
There are some power forwards that Jermaine would struggle to defend but there also a large number that he can defend. Especially as a backup PF versus a starter where the quality and athleticism of his opponent is lower.
It would be nice to have BBD to call upon in some of those instances (especially in the regular season) but even then BBD wouldn't be a regular rotation player.
He would be a borderline rotation figure who plays now and then.
So, we get older, and have older guys playing at this point of their careers out of position, ASSUMING they're even healthy enough come the playoffs. And all for a 38-year old SF who picked the Suns over the Celtics as a free agent last offseason.
No offense, but be honest; do you not just like BBD? Or do you just feel the C's can't pay him? Because I don't care how you plan to spin this, Grant Hill is not worth the predicament it would cause in our big man rotation, no matter how small you think it would be.
Like I said in my previous post in this thread --
not the one above, the one before that -- I would like to wait until further into the season to see how the health status of the C's big men plays out.
To see if Perk does get back healthy and whether Jermaine can get himself together and if Shaq is still in working order. Get a better feel for how risky a move it would be ... and it would definitely be a risk.
At this point in time, I would be reluctant to make the trade. Too many unknowns and concerns about the other big men's health. And that may still be true come All-Star break ... but hopefully there would be enough clarity to figure out whether BBD is more of a need than Hill or not.
Hopefully enough information to make a decision then.
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If Perk and the two O'Neals were healthy, I think Grant Hill offers more to the Celtics than BBD does. I think Davis is a borderline rotation player in that scenario whereas Grant Hill would be a big improvement over Marquis Daniels.
So in that light, I do have interest in this trade idea.
Hence, if I was comfortable enough with the other big men's health, I would make the trade.
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I am a big admirer of Grant Hill. I think he is still a very effective player in this league. A high quality reserve or a capable starting small forward.
A solid defender, an above average rebounder, a very good ball-handler and good passer. A good complementary scorer who runs the floor very well, moves without the ball well, is a decent slasher and has a good jump shot out to about 22 feet.
He is a player I rate highly. Even at his advanced age. A very good role player.
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It's more my interest in Hill than a disinterest in BBD.
I like BBD. He is a good to very good fourth big man + a decent first big off the bench in the NBA. A rotation worthy player.
Given his current form, I think it's very likely that he'll be overpaid this summer
(full MLE over five years ... which I don't think he's worth. I have him in the $3.5 to $4.5 million range depending on available minutes).
I don't view him as a player who is capable of playing at a high enough level to become a full-time starter + because of his likely contract demands, I do not view him as a long term fixture with the franchise which is why I am fine with giving up a young quality role player like BBD for an old man like Grant Hill.
I think there is a very good chance that this is Davis' final season with the Celtics. Just like it probably would be for 38 year old Grant Hill albeit for different reasons. Anyway, that's why the age difference isn't a big factor for me.
My focus here is on who offers more this season and this season alone.
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If the other big men aren't healthy, I would much rather end up depending on Daniels as a rotation player than Erden.