Tony Allen Looked Good Tonight

[footey]

Tonight was a win win. We won, and Tony played well. He even made his foul shots and hit a twenty footer. Haven't seen that since he blew out his knee in '07.  I thought he looked great tonight. Glad to see it, hope he gets a lot more minutes.

That rookie PG from Maryland looked good too.

[j804]

yea for Tony he played good

catch him talking a lil smack?? lol

[EJPLAYA]

Meh. He was okay. I honestly think we haven't missed a beat with him gone and that when Delonte comes back we will be better off than we were with him. I hope he's happy getting scrub minutes on a bad team. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[Fafnir]

I didn't too many of his minutes unfortunately.  Just the bit where he drew a foul on Ray Allen.

By box score alone he had his best game of the year by far. A heck of a lot more effective than OJ Mayo from the looks of it. Shame that he won't play with the same fire every night.

[Change]

He put the cuffs on Ray for bit. Is it me or were the C's scared to pass the ball in his vicinity? There was one play Big Baby was reluctant to pass the ball to Ray because of Tony Allen was guarding him.

Tony might be the best perimeter defender I've ever seen.

[Roy H.]

I was surprised that Memphis didn't have Tony in the game in OT; they were clearly better with him in there tonight.  He played a very good game, especially on the offensive end.

I don't think he's responsible for shutting Ray down, though.  When Ray was quiet through the first three quarters, he wasn't being guarded by Tony.  In the fourth, when Ray hit some big shots, Tony was mostly in the game.  I personally didn't see the amazing defense that some talk about, but Tony definitely made a huge contribution to Memphis' effort last night.

[Celtics4ever]

I think Tony was a good defender but vastly over rated by our fan base.  I mean he was on IR half his tenure here with bad injuries.  While, I liked him on defense, to be honest, I cringed when he had the ball offensively.  I wish him the best unless he is playing us.

I think he played well but I think House did too against us in the HEAT game, its normal to want to put it to your old team if you have any pride as a player.

[jimmehx]

His best game for sure.

Bit of motivation tonight for TA i think.

I wish him well though.

[2short]

Wish Tony well but no reason to overpay for a player (much like Posey)
Tony plays good defense however he wasn't able to slow wade, lebron or kobe.  The good defensive jobs were ray allen and paul pierce on those guys.  Granted all are tough/impossible to defend.  Tony will always frustrate a coach, look good, turn it over etc.
Daniels might not be as good of a one on one defender but he is a good defender who helps mesh an offense not disrupt it.
oj majo? not that impressed

[Meadowlark_Scal]

I still look at it as a TA vs MD.....that is who it seems management thought we could keep instead...If that is the case, we got screwed. MD is very average. TA's D was outstanding..MD does nothing...great, TA was on and off on offense, but D, he was not only great, he took the assignments that otherwise we would have had to make Ray or PP do....his value will be more clear when our guys get constant tired legs, as they will by later in January, then the nagging injuries will pile up, and maybe some bad ones.

West might help, but MD or Wafer do not. For the small price TA wanted, one more year, same money, instead of MD or Wafer...easy decision, keep TA.

  As for overpaying a player, well, lets start with SCAL, paid him for nothing = 5 yrs. TA's help was evident, but non players forget how much help a defender is, some here only remember the scorers (you don't like rebounders either)

  BBD isn't much of a rebounder..if he was, he would get 1/2 of those shots that PP, KG, and Ray miss. They are great shooters...great shooters leave soft rebounds. Every time KG missed that one from the corner, you knew it was going long...a rebounder would know. It takes extra hustle and energy to get those, also desire....they call bbbd the energy here....energy in a geriatric unit maybe. (The guy who gets the remote..?)

   BBD's shot has improved, but he still isn't a hustler or a rebounder.

[birdwatcher]

I still look at it as a TA vs MD.....that is who it seems management thought we could keep instead...If that is the case, we got screwed. MD is very average. TA's D was outstanding..MD does nothing...great, TA was on and off on offense, but D, he was not only great, he took the assignments that otherwise we would have had to make Ray or PP do....his value will be more clear when our guys get constant tired legs, as they will by later in January, then the nagging injuries will pile up, and maybe some bad ones.

West might help, but MD or Wafer do not. For the small price TA wanted, one more year, same money, instead of MD or Wafer...easy decision, keep TA.

  As for overpaying a player, well, lets start with SCAL, paid him for nothing = 5 yrs. TA's help was evident, but non players forget how much help a defender is, some here only remember the scorers (you don't like rebounders either)

  BBD isn't much of a rebounder..if he was, he would get 1/2 of those shots that PP, KG, and Ray miss. They are great shooters...great shooters leave soft rebounds. Every time KG missed that one from the corner, you knew it was going long...a rebounder would know. It takes extra hustle and energy to get those, also desire....they call bbbd the energy here....energy in a geriatric unit maybe. (The guy who gets the remote..?)

   BBD's shot has improved, but he still isn't a hustler or a rebounder.

I think you're undervaluing Marquis, which I can understand after the second half of last season. 'Quis has a higher ceiling than TA in my opinion. TA was a really clutch defender, and had wildly inconsistent offense. He also made really dumb mistakes. Quis is a good defender and a better sub for Pierce, and if he can stay on the floor this year, I think he will end up contributing more on both ends of the floor than TA ever did.

[footey]

I was surprised that Memphis didn't have Tony in the game in OT; they were clearly better with him in there tonight.  He played a very good game, especially on the offensive end.

I don't think he's responsible for shutting Ray down, though.  When Ray was quiet through the first three quarters, he wasn't being guarded by Tony.  In the fourth, when Ray hit some big shots, Tony was mostly in the game.  I personally didn't see the amazing defense that some talk about, but Tony definitely made a huge contribution to Memphis' effort last night.

Agree.

[footey]

   BBD's shot has improved, but he still isn't a hustler or a rebounder.

BBD is not a hustler? Really?

[Redz]

   BBD's shot has improved, but he still isn't a hustler or a rebounder.

BBD is not a hustler? Really?

Yeh, you can knock his rebounding ability, but never his hustle.

Half of BBD's rebounds last came off his own misses.  This year those are going in or he's kicking it out when he's in trouble.  He's playing a LOT smarter.

[Overrated]

Tony looked like his usual self, except I don't think he turned the ball over (which contradicts his "Turnover Tony" nickname!).