Will Boston retire Rondo's number?

[guava_wrench]

Too early. If Rondo continues to play at this level, and he stays a Celtic for the majority of his career, maybe. But, championships are currency when it comes to this in boston, and Rondo only has one.

  Rondo will retire with at least as many titles as Paul Pierce. Food for thought.

TP.

Perfect response.

[Celtics4ever]

If he keeps putting up assist like now he stands a good chance some day but its way too early and those assists are going to go down when the big three retire.

[BballTim]

I disagree with this big time. The Celtics wouldn't have retired Barkley's number? Not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the Celtics have retired more numbers than any other team, including the likes of Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauley, Frank Ramsey, and Jim Loscutoff.... If Rondo stays with the Celtics his whole career and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, he should get his number retired, because he's gonna put up silly assist and steal numbers and he's already been NBA first team all defense.

Satch Sanders: 8 titles
Bill Sharman: 4 titles
Loscutoff: 7 titles

Guys with less than 2 Championships as players with their #'s retired:
Ed McCauley, Red Auerbach, Walter Brown, Reggie Lewis

Guys who played after '70 with less than 2 titles as a player with their #'s retired:
Reggie Lewis

Tell me how Barkely would've been retired if he had won no chips?

  How many players have we had that were as good as Barkley that didn't get their numbers retired? And, note, Barkely made all nba 1st team 5 times and 2nd team 5 times, PP made all 2nd team once. Paul's only top 10 finish in MVP voting was in 08-09 when he finished 6th, Barkley has finished 6th or better 8 times. If you're saying Barkley wouldn't have had his number retired without a title, you're saying PP wouldn't have been close to being in the discussion for having his number retired without the title.

[BballTim]

If he keeps putting up assist like now he stands a good chance some day but its way too early and those assists are going to go down when the big three retire.

  Or they won't go down because he'll be able to run the break with players faster than the big three.

[Roy H.]

I disagree with this big time. The Celtics wouldn't have retired Barkley's number? Not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the Celtics have retired more numbers than any other team, including the likes of Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauley, Frank Ramsey, and Jim Loscutoff.... If Rondo stays with the Celtics his whole career and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, he should get his number retired, because he's gonna put up silly assist and steal numbers and he's already been NBA first team all defense.

Satch Sanders: 8 titles
Bill Sharman: 4 titles
Loscutoff: 7 titles

Guys with less than 2 Championships as players with their #'s retired:
Ed McCauley, Red Auerbach, Walter Brown, Reggie Lewis

Guys who played after '70 with less than 2 titles as a player with their #'s retired:
Reggie Lewis

Tell me how Barkely would've been retired if he had won no chips?

  How many players have we had that were as good as Barkley that didn't get their numbers retired? And, note, Barkely made all nba 1st team 5 times and 2nd team 5 times, PP made all 2nd team once. Paul's only top 10 finish in MVP voting was in 08-09 when he finished 6th, Barkley has finished 6th or better 8 times. If you're saying Barkley wouldn't have had his number retired without a title, you're saying PP wouldn't have been close to being in the discussion for having his number retired without the title.

I'd say the closest example we have is Ed Macauley.  He was a six-time all-star and All-NBA four times while in green, and was one of the NBA's first superstars.  It was a different era, but he saw his number retired.  I think Barkley would be the equivalent.  While titles are important, I don't think the Celtics would decline to recognize an all-time great just because he couldn't hang a banner.

[RJ87]

If he keeps putting up assist like now he stands a good chance some day but its way too early and those assists are going to go down when the big three retire.

  Or they won't go down because he'll be able to run the break with players faster than the big three.

TP.
I agree with this completely. When DA starts building a team to compliment Rondo - hopefully, athletic guys who can get up and down the court - Rondo will be fine and continue to post impressive. When you really like at this team, Rondo is able to play effectively even though it's not assembled to really make full use of his abilities.

[indeedproceed]

I disagree with this big time. The Celtics wouldn't have retired Barkley's number? Not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the Celtics have retired more numbers than any other team, including the likes of Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauley, Frank Ramsey, and Jim Loscutoff.... If Rondo stays with the Celtics his whole career and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, he should get his number retired, because he's gonna put up silly assist and steal numbers and he's already been NBA first team all defense.

Satch Sanders: 8 titles
Bill Sharman: 4 titles
Loscutoff: 7 titles

Guys with less than 2 Championships as players with their #'s retired:
Ed McCauley, Red Auerbach, Walter Brown, Reggie Lewis

Guys who played after '70 with less than 2 titles as a player with their #'s retired:
Reggie Lewis

Tell me how Barkely would've been retired if he had won no chips?

  How many players have we had that were as good as Barkley that didn't get their numbers retired? And, note, Barkely made all nba 1st team 5 times and 2nd team 5 times, PP made all 2nd team once. Paul's only top 10 finish in MVP voting was in 08-09 when he finished 6th, Barkley has finished 6th or better 8 times. If you're saying Barkley wouldn't have had his number retired without a title, you're saying PP wouldn't have been close to being in the discussion for having his number retired without the title.

I am saying exactly that. PP would not have had his # retired without winning a title.

[indeedproceed]

I disagree with this big time. The Celtics wouldn't have retired Barkley's number? Not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the Celtics have retired more numbers than any other team, including the likes of Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauley, Frank Ramsey, and Jim Loscutoff.... If Rondo stays with the Celtics his whole career and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, he should get his number retired, because he's gonna put up silly assist and steal numbers and he's already been NBA first team all defense.

Satch Sanders: 8 titles
Bill Sharman: 4 titles
Loscutoff: 7 titles

Guys with less than 2 Championships as players with their #'s retired:
Ed McCauley, Red Auerbach, Walter Brown, Reggie Lewis

Guys who played after '70 with less than 2 titles as a player with their #'s retired:
Reggie Lewis

Tell me how Barkely would've been retired if he had won no chips?

  How many players have we had that were as good as Barkley that didn't get their numbers retired? And, note, Barkely made all nba 1st team 5 times and 2nd team 5 times, PP made all 2nd team once. Paul's only top 10 finish in MVP voting was in 08-09 when he finished 6th, Barkley has finished 6th or better 8 times. If you're saying Barkley wouldn't have had his number retired without a title, you're saying PP wouldn't have been close to being in the discussion for having his number retired without the title.

I'd say the closest example we have is Ed Macauley.  He was a six-time all-star and All-NBA four times while in green, and was one of the NBA's first superstars.  It was a different era, but he saw his number retired.  I think Barkley would be the equivalent.  While titles are important, I don't think the Celtics would decline to recognize an all-time great just because he couldn't hang a banner.

I think the qualifications have changed since McCauley was inducted. I think with the precedent set since, if he had the same career all over again, he wouldn't get in without a title.

[Donoghus]

I disagree with this big time. The Celtics wouldn't have retired Barkley's number? Not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the Celtics have retired more numbers than any other team, including the likes of Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauley, Frank Ramsey, and Jim Loscutoff.... If Rondo stays with the Celtics his whole career and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, he should get his number retired, because he's gonna put up silly assist and steal numbers and he's already been NBA first team all defense.

Satch Sanders: 8 titles
Bill Sharman: 4 titles
Loscutoff: 7 titles

Guys with less than 2 Championships as players with their #'s retired:
Ed McCauley, Red Auerbach, Walter Brown, Reggie Lewis

Guys who played after '70 with less than 2 titles as a player with their #'s retired:
Reggie Lewis

Tell me how Barkely would've been retired if he had won no chips?

  How many players have we had that were as good as Barkley that didn't get their numbers retired? And, note, Barkely made all nba 1st team 5 times and 2nd team 5 times, PP made all 2nd team once. Paul's only top 10 finish in MVP voting was in 08-09 when he finished 6th, Barkley has finished 6th or better 8 times. If you're saying Barkley wouldn't have had his number retired without a title, you're saying PP wouldn't have been close to being in the discussion for having his number retired without the title.

I am saying exactly that. PP would not have had his # retired without winning a title.

I disagree completely.  Pierce would still be getting his number retired even without a title.  If he remained a Celtic lifer,  he was getting his number retired, championship or not.  He was already shaping up to be one of the alltime Celtic greats before '07-08.

[BballTim]

I disagree with this big time. The Celtics wouldn't have retired Barkley's number? Not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the Celtics have retired more numbers than any other team, including the likes of Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauley, Frank Ramsey, and Jim Loscutoff.... If Rondo stays with the Celtics his whole career and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, he should get his number retired, because he's gonna put up silly assist and steal numbers and he's already been NBA first team all defense.

Satch Sanders: 8 titles
Bill Sharman: 4 titles
Loscutoff: 7 titles

Guys with less than 2 Championships as players with their #'s retired:
Ed McCauley, Red Auerbach, Walter Brown, Reggie Lewis

Guys who played after '70 with less than 2 titles as a player with their #'s retired:
Reggie Lewis

Tell me how Barkely would've been retired if he had won no chips?

  How many players have we had that were as good as Barkley that didn't get their numbers retired? And, note, Barkely made all nba 1st team 5 times and 2nd team 5 times, PP made all 2nd team once. Paul's only top 10 finish in MVP voting was in 08-09 when he finished 6th, Barkley has finished 6th or better 8 times. If you're saying Barkley wouldn't have had his number retired without a title, you're saying PP wouldn't have been close to being in the discussion for having his number retired without the title.

I am saying exactly that. PP would not have had his # retired without winning a title.

  But unless you can point to players of that caliber that were on the Celts for the bulk of their careers and didn't have their numbers retired it's just speculation on your part. I don't know of a precedent of such players not having their numbers retired.

[indeedproceed]

I disagree with this big time. The Celtics wouldn't have retired Barkley's number? Not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the Celtics have retired more numbers than any other team, including the likes of Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauley, Frank Ramsey, and Jim Loscutoff.... If Rondo stays with the Celtics his whole career and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, he should get his number retired, because he's gonna put up silly assist and steal numbers and he's already been NBA first team all defense.

Satch Sanders: 8 titles
Bill Sharman: 4 titles
Loscutoff: 7 titles

Guys with less than 2 Championships as players with their #'s retired:
Ed McCauley, Red Auerbach, Walter Brown, Reggie Lewis

Guys who played after '70 with less than 2 titles as a player with their #'s retired:
Reggie Lewis

Tell me how Barkely would've been retired if he had won no chips?

  How many players have we had that were as good as Barkley that didn't get their numbers retired? And, note, Barkely made all nba 1st team 5 times and 2nd team 5 times, PP made all 2nd team once. Paul's only top 10 finish in MVP voting was in 08-09 when he finished 6th, Barkley has finished 6th or better 8 times. If you're saying Barkley wouldn't have had his number retired without a title, you're saying PP wouldn't have been close to being in the discussion for having his number retired without the title.

I am saying exactly that. PP would not have had his # retired without winning a title.

  But unless you can point to players of that caliber that were on the Celts for the bulk of their careers and didn't have their numbers retired it's just speculation on your part. I don't know of a precedent of such players not having their numbers retired.

Oh absolutely its just speculation. I'm not saying I'm an authority on it or anything. Its hard to find a precedent because of how successful the Celtics have been. My point is that while in cities like Minnesota or Philadelphia or Dallas where they haven't won any or many titles, Pierce would be a shoe-in. Here though I think there is a higher standard. Guys who are core parts of title teams, especially multiple title teams, tend to be rewarded.

But, there hasn't been a guy who has been with the C's as long as Pierce had, and been his level of production for as long as Pierce has, who hasn't won a title in the last 40 years, so it is impossible to find a precedent for the C's.

[celticsmaniac18]

if he keeps this ish up. and i think hell hav to win another title. mayb without the big 3

[barefacedmonk]

Yes, they will, because at the end of this year Rondo will have 2 rings.

2 rings and those kind of assist numbers will get him in eventually

[incoherent]

How many players have only played in 1 uniform and didn't have their number retired?

[celtics2]

If he doesn't break his neck Rondo will make all previous Celtic point guards look inept before he's done.