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No Rebounds; No Glory
« on: November 04, 2010, 08:46:58 AM »

Offline coco

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 09:03:10 AM »

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Didn't they outrebound their opponent in every game except the Cavs game?  It looked pretty bad at first last night, but I believe they outrebounded the Bucks by 1.  It's going to happen sometimes against a skilled big man like Bogut.  He has great games every time he plays the Celtics. Baby's too short to do any serious rebounding against a big guy like Bogut.  No excuse for KG though, he's 7 feet tall.
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Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 09:04:08 AM »

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Pierce has been rebounding nicely this year, as has Garnett. Last game they were a bit lower than I'd like, but they're reasonable.

Glen's got to do better.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 09:07:11 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 09:11:07 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.
When our opponents have 7 more missed shots than you do, you better out rebound them.

Second chance points kept Milwaukee in the game, and ultimately provided our winning margin thanks to Ray and Jermaine.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2010, 09:19:00 AM »

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Didn't they outrebound their opponent in every game except the Cavs game?  It looked pretty bad at first last night, but I believe they outrebounded the Bucks by 1.  It's going to happen sometimes against a skilled big man like Bogut.  He has great games every time he plays the Celtics. Baby's too short to do any serious rebounding against a big guy like Bogut.  No excuse for KG though, he's 7 feet tall.

According to NBA.com, the Bucks outrebounded the celtics 53-50
 ("team" rebounds Bucks 11, C's 7)

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 09:32:30 AM »

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Until the big 3 retire, the Stats to look for are rebounds and assists. For the most part this year our rebounding has been better than last year.

The turnovers have been just as bad.
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Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 09:59:03 AM »

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I think rebounding has been better this year, and that's important, but I don't think better is good enough if we hope for the Celts to be an elite team.   As I see it, this is a team that Ainge rebuilt over the summer to dominate the boards.  Players are talking championship.  Well, they'd better rebound like it.


Sure would like to see Davis averaging 7 a game.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 10:04:15 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.
Ranking 12th is not exactly close to the top of the league in rebounding.However they aren't as bad as last year so far.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 10:08:25 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.
When our opponents have 7 more missed shots than you do, you better out rebound them.

Second chance points kept Milwaukee in the game, and ultimately provided our winning margin thanks to Ray and Jermaine.

  Looks like they had 9 more misses than us. If they got ORs at the same rate as us they would have had 12, and they had 13. Hardly a crisis.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 10:11:03 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.
Ranking 12th is not exactly close to the top of the league in rebounding.However they aren't as bad as last year so far.
We're 12th in total rebounds, but we play at a pretty slow pace.

We're 7th in rebounding rate, and 5th in defensive rebounding rate.

Though I don't think KG can keep up his overall rebounding through 5 games all season. So we definitely need Shaq/O'Neal to play more minutes, or BBD to pick it up.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 10:11:15 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.
Ranking 12th is not exactly close to the top of the league in rebounding.However they aren't as bad as last year so far.

  We're 6th in the league in rebounding rate. Total rebounds is meaningless because it depends on how many shots a team (and their opponents) take in a game.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2010, 10:12:41 AM »

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How can you complain about rebounding in the Bucks game when the Celtics out-rebounded them? I don't really see how that makes any sense. Garnett's not the rebounder he once was, well obviously. He was averaging 13-14 a game in his prime years... Now hes 34 years old and hes still averaged 10 a game over the first five games this year.

Also, Pierce is having his best rebounding year in a long time and he is fifth at his position in rebounding currently. Rondo is second at his position with 6 a game. Plus the Celtics are in the top half of the NBA in rebounding so far this year and that is without playing 2 games with Shaq and not a lot of minutes from JO... So i'd say rebounding as of now is one of their lesser issues.

I would have made a thread along the lines of, No Turnovers, More Wins.

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 10:12:49 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.
When our opponents have 7 more missed shots than you do, you better out rebound them.

Second chance points kept Milwaukee in the game, and ultimately provided our winning margin thanks to Ray and Jermaine.

  Looks like they had 9 more misses than us. If they got ORs at the same rate as us they would have had 12, and they had 13. Hardly a crisis.
Crisis no, but we also got two of those late in OT (thanks Correy!).

As an aside I love how Maggette was the direct reason for every single one of our points in OT. Gotta love bad pr0n!

Re: No Rebounds; No Glory
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 10:14:51 AM »

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On a game that went OT and players played so many more minutes than usual, not one grabbed 10 or more rebounds from our team.  Just looking at the front line numbers.

JOneal           25mins   7rebs
PPierce          40mins   5rebs
KGarnett         38mins   8rebs
GDavis           33mins   4rebs
SErden           5mins    2rebs


-It is clear that KG is not the rebounder he once was and that’s understandable.
 
-As for PP, he is not the scorer he once was but he needs to rebound more.  I understand that on this particular game he was probably shadowing CDelfino in the perimeter taking PP away from rebounding position, but you would expect that playing 40mins he would have more than 5rebs to show for. I mean Rondo had 8rebs while shadowing what's his name...

-I was pleasantly surprised by JOneal  and Erden effort on the boards.

I hope we do better on the boards


  As of now KG's having his best rebounding season he's had since joining the Celts. And isn't this the kind of topic to bring up when we lose a game where we're outrebounded instead of a game where we outrebound our opponents and win? We're probably pretty close to the top of the league in rebounding thus far.
Ranking 12th is not exactly close to the top of the league in rebounding.However they aren't as bad as last year so far.

  We're 6th in the league in rebounding rate. Total rebounds is meaningless because it depends on how many shots a team (and their opponents) take in a game.
Whose talking about total rebounds only?Although your original statement said "pretty close to the top of the leaguee in rebounding",not rebounding rate.Across the board they rank 12th.
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