That Anthony Parker 3 Pointer Counts

[rayallen1934]

That was a fair play, of course the time keepers didnt put it up for some reason. But the shot should have and did count.

[Bankshot]

Why should the shot have counted?  I don't get it.  I don't believe the clock started when he touched the ball.  The only reason it counted (from what I understand)is that the refs only reviewed the tape where it looked like he got it off in time, but was not able to check to see if the clock started when he touched the ball.

[Prof. Clutch]

Why should the shot have counted?  I don't get it.  I don't believe the clock started when he touched the ball.  The only reason it counted (from what I understand)is that the refs only reviewed the tape where it looked like he got it off in time, but was not able to check to see if the clock started when he touched the ball.

What he said.

[csfansince60s]

This would have been a moot issue if KG had made even one of those free throws....we've lost far too many games (of the ones we've lost)over the past two years from sloppy play and missed free throws.....

[LB3533]

Parker caught the ball, did a semi-circle with the ball down towards the ground and went up and took his normal shooting stroke.

Some players can perform their normal shooting stroke within one second, especially players with quick releases.

Parker's situation took much longer than one second.

[Chris]

I am not sure whether it counted or not.  But I feel confident that there was no where near enough evidence to overturn it on replay.  And I also believe that plays like that (where the clock is started early or late) happen all the time, and it is not some conspiracy, just a case of a home-court timer.

[nba is the worst]

Why should the shot have counted?  I don't get it.  I don't believe the clock started when he touched the ball.  The only reason it counted (from what I understand)is that the refs only reviewed the tape where it looked like he got it off in time, but was not able to check to see if the clock started when he touched the ball.

It's not "when he touched the ball". It's when the ref signals that "he touched the ball" - plus normal (potentially homecourt affected) reaction time...

[GreenFaith1819]

Whatever. I'm already over that game. That is one less trip we have to make up there.

You all think CLE got up for us? Thought the crowd was raucous last Wed?

Wait until MIA pays a visit. I really believe that CLE will have quite a few victims this year, I really do.

[Sizzlack]

From what I understand, is unless they stop the play live, they cannot review whether or not the clock started on time.

So when they went to the review, they were only checking to see if he got the shot off before the clock expired (which he obviously did) and if it was a 3-pter (no foot on the line.)

I could be wrong on that, but I'm fairly certain they can't review whether or not the clock started correctly, unless they stop the play live. It's a situation that needs to be able to be reviewed, as the "home-court clock" is always going to be part of the game unless the NBA starts putting an official at the scorers table.

[rondo987]

I went back and actually timed on a stop watch the time that elapsed from the time he touched the ball to the time the clock went off, and I kept getting somewhere in between 1.5 - 1.6 seconds. Clearly it was more than one full second, but shot clocks are not measured in tenths of a second, so there could have been 1.9 seconds left on the clock (even though at that I would think the clock would have still showed 2 seconds). Either way, I still beleive the clock was started late, and we got screwed on that play, but what are we going to do?

[Fafnir]

Whatever. I'm already over that game. That is one less trip we have to make up there.

You all think CLE got up for us? Thought the crowd was raucous last Wed?

Wait until MIA pays a visit. I really believe that CLE will have quite a few victims this year, I really do.

LeBron James is going to shred Jamario Moon and Williams.

[Fafnir]

Clearly it was more than one full second, but shot clocks are not measured in tenths of a second, so there could have been 1.9 seconds left on the clock (even though at that I would think the clock would have still showed 2 seconds). to do?

You're wrong on this one, if the shot clock showed 1 it was between .1-1.00 seconds remaining. If 1.1-2.00 seconds were left it would show 2.

It was the lag in human reaction that allowed Parker to get that shot off, nothing more. Nothing to do about it either, its impossible to accurately time such things using humans. Human reaction time does not percieve tenths of seconds accurately.

[GreenFaith1819]

Whatever. I'm already over that game. That is one less trip we have to make up there.

You all think CLE got up for us? Thought the crowd was raucous last Wed?

Wait until MIA pays a visit. I really believe that CLE will have quite a few victims this year, I really do.

LeBron James is going to shred Jamario Moon and Williams.

He might. But I promise you CLE will take at least one from MIA this year. And Hickson/Varejao will slow down Bosh. Mark it down.

I will be surprised if CLE doesn't win 35-40 games this year.

[pearljammer10]

There is no way that the call could be overturned. The clock started when the ref signaled Parker touched the ball. Late or not, that's how it worked and that's how it stands.

Plus, I really wouldn't blame the game on Garnett missing free throws... I mean we were up 11 towards the end of the third quarter. From there out you just have to match the Cavs bucket for bucket. The C's are and always have been terrible at closing out games. Once you have a lead, it doesn't necessarily mean you are going to win the game... I mean, look what happened in game 7.

[BballTim]

Whatever. I'm already over that game. That is one less trip we have to make up there.

You all think CLE got up for us? Thought the crowd was raucous last Wed?

Wait until MIA pays a visit. I really believe that CLE will have quite a few victims this year, I really do.

LeBron James is going to shred Jamario Moon and Williams.

  I'm sending in my application now for head coach of the Cavs if Cleveland's going to put Mo on LBJ. There will be a job opening by the middle of the 3rd quarter.

  I don't know that you can analyze matchups to predict the outcome in the Cavs-Heat games, at least the first one. I think Cleveland could be somewhat akin to teams that play great after their best player is tossed during the game.