inconsistency with new techincal foul rule

[greenpride32]

I wouldn't have so much issue with the new technical foul rules if they were called consistently.  But we've already seen plenty of cases where a player does almost nothing and gets called, and other situations where a player cleary follows a ref around to complain and raises their hands and there's no call.

I guess this is Stern's way of having more "control" over the outcome of games. 

[misha]

I would fo to the extreme conspiracy theories, but it was obvious that certain rules are not valid for super duper stars like Kobe, Lebron, Wade (who's reaction to a few calls against him would have given some other'regular' player a T in game vs C's)

[hpantazo]

I was completely against these new "respect for the game" rules at first, but after watching a couple of games I have to admit that I like the overall effect. I am so happy to be able to see players get a no-call and just run back on defense rather than barking at the ref like spoiled brats (Paul Pierce, here's looking at you, and many others too). I have not seen enough to comment on inconsistencies however. If guys like Wade, Lebron, and Kobe consistently get away with arguing and pouting, then these rules are a waste of time.

[CelticG1]

Anyone see Verajoe late in the game after he claimed the ball went off him and then tipped off Ray out of bounds. The camera was right now him and he reacted in the textbook definition of what I thought earned you a technical foul this year. Not only that but he wasn't even right about the call

[Chris]

I agree they need to get more consistent with this.  But lets give it time.  Habits need to be broken, and they need to feel out where this is really going to land. 

I actually have not had a major problem with it so far in the regular season.  I think in the first game, they did a good job of letting both teams react a bit, but also both teams were more restrained than they have been in the past.  Last game, the only issue came after Nate's dropkick.  I will give the ref a pass for having a quick trigger on Shaq.  For one thing, we don't know what he said, but also, he needs to be able to see that those are the times when the refs are going to be super sensitive.

If they go back to what they were doing in the preseason, then I will have an issue...but I think things have been reasonable so far in the regular season.

[kozlodoev]

Anyone see Verajoe late in the game after he claimed the ball went off him and then tipped off Ray out of bounds. The camera was right now him and he reacted in the textbook definition of what I thought earned you a technical foul this year. Not only that but he wasn't even right about the call

And what if the call was reviewed and reversed?

[papa shuttlesworth]

Anyone see Verajoe late in the game after he claimed the ball went off him and then tipped off Ray out of bounds. The camera was right now him and he reacted in the textbook definition of what I thought earned you a technical foul this year. Not only that but he wasn't even right about the call

Yes.  But for some reason refs cannot see any of Varajao's antics, whether they are flopping, instigating, foul or complaining about calls.

[Chris]

Anyone see Verajoe late in the game after he claimed the ball went off him and then tipped off Ray out of bounds. The camera was right now him and he reacted in the textbook definition of what I thought earned you a technical foul this year. Not only that but he wasn't even right about the call

Yes.  But for some reason refs cannot see any of Varajao's antics, whether they are flopping, instigating, foul or complaining about calls.

Its the hair.  It temporarily blinds them.

[j804]

I agree they need to get more consistent with this.  But lets give it time.  Habits need to be broken, and they need to feel out where this is really going to land.  

I actually have not had a major problem with it so far in the regular season.  I think in the first game, they did a good job of letting both teams react a bit, but also both teams were more restrained than they have been in the past.  Last game, the only issue came after Nate's dropkick.  I will give the ref a pass for having a quick trigger on Shaq.  For one thing, we don't know what he said, but also, he needs to be able to see that those are the times when the refs are going to be super sensitive.

If they go back to what they were doing in the preseason, then I will have an issue...but I think things have been reasonable so far in the regular season.

True which reminds me that was hilarious of Nate right up there with Rays chop to AV jewels obviously intentionally  

the tech and point not so much

[Evantime34]

Just read the thread title and decided to post so forgive me if I'm duplicating some elses thoughts.

Reffing in general is inconsistent for many different calls in the game of basketball because it is all about quick judgment. The only consistency I expect from referee's is for them to be consistently wrong (yes I hate all refs regardless of level).

[greenpride32]

It works both ways.  I know there were at least a couple of times Paul Pierce complained, followed a ref, raised his hands, shook his head in disbelief, and he didn't get called for anything.

The point is in the same game, the rule is being enforced at times, and not at other times.  I mean maybe on some possesions they could give the team 30 seconds instead of 24 to shoot?  Of course the technical foul rule is more subjective.  But I've already seen plenty of instances in preseason and in the handful of regular season games where players have done something you clearly aren't supposed to do and get away with it.  It's not even superstar treatment.

[FLCeltsFan]

The refs have been picking and choosing who to call the T's on and who not to.  The camera was on LeBron all the way up the court in the opener and he was complaining, making faces, and gestures all the way up the court.  No T.  He complained about another call with his hands out to the ref.  No T.  Wade complained about a call.  No T.  Varejao throws a hissy fit on the floor. No T.  A Celtic raises his eyebrows over a terrible call and gets a T.  Where is the respect for the game in that kind of behavior by the refs?   Disgusting. 

[guava_wrench]

Just read the thread title and decided to post so forgive me if I'm duplicating some elses thoughts.

Reffing in general is inconsistent for many different calls in the game of basketball because it is all about quick judgment. The only consistency I expect from referee's is for them to be consistently wrong (yes I hate all refs regardless of level).

Perhaps you should just hate organized sports and stick to watching games in the park where people ref themselves?

Good thoughts, though I don't get why you have a problem with refs when you seem to realize it is just an impossible job.

[mmbaby]

It works both ways.  I know there were at least a couple of times Paul Pierce complained, followed a ref, raised his hands, shook his head in disbelief, and he didn't get called for anything.

The point is in the same game, the rule is being enforced at times, and not at other times.  I mean maybe on some possesions they could give the team 30 seconds instead of 24 to shoot?  Of course the technical foul rule is more subjective.  But I've already seen plenty of instances in preseason and in the handful of regular season games where players have done something you clearly aren't supposed to do and get away with it.  It's not even superstar treatment.

There's the inconsistency spoken about and that's what's scary. It may not happen now, it may not happen in the regular season. In fact, it may not happen till game 7 of the finals, but it is very possible that important games will be swayed, skewwed and warped to have the winner be the loser and visa versa.

Last season our final game with the Lakers was so, oh so close. Just a few flicks of the refs wrist and we'd be holding that trophy. (Not talking conspiracy here). It's just too inconsistent. Either call the tech each and every time or it's not going to be fair to one team or the other.

[Eja117]

I can't wait till they ask a player about a call or the refs or a tech or anything and the player is like "I - am - a -robot. I - have - no - opinions. I - have no feelings.  Does not compute. Does not compute. Does not compute."