mike miller hurt for miami

[Eddie20]

If he's hurt or ineffective this season that's a very big blow to the heat.

Not really.  I never understood the Heat making Miller a top priority, given that they've already got two of the top 10 players in the league in the same spots Miller would play.

Miller would have fit better with Boston, who will be looking to rest Ray and Pierce as much as possible.  But in Miami, Wade and LeBron are going to be playing major minutes in any close game, with Miller getting most of his playing time in blow out wins or losses.

The key reserve for Miami is Haslem.  If he goes down, the Heat frontcourt becomes Bosh and a bunch of stiffs.

Mike

Miller gives them spacing. It's a huge blow!

Eddie and James Jones give you the same spacing as Miller and for a lot less than 5 million dollars a year.

Mike

Eddie House, more than likely, won't even be part of the rotation. His game has really gone down. Jones is an average NBA player and very inconsistent. Let's not lose sight of the other things Miller brings to the table besides his shooting. Things like rebounding, ball handing, passing, unselfishness (sometimes to a fault), and a high basketball IQ

 

[moiso]

If he's hurt or ineffective this season that's a very big blow to the heat.

Not really.  I never understood the Heat making Miller a top priority, given that they've already got two of the top 10 players in the league in the same spots Miller would play.

Miller would have fit better with Boston, who will be looking to rest Ray and Pierce as much as possible.  But in Miami, Wade and LeBron are going to be playing major minutes in any close game, with Miller getting most of his playing time in blow out wins or losses.

The key reserve for Miami is Haslem.  If he goes down, the Heat frontcourt becomes Bosh and a bunch of stiffs.

Mike

Miller gives them spacing. It's a huge blow!

Eddie and James Jones give you the same spacing as Miller and for a lot less than 5 million dollars a year.

Mike

Mike can shoot over people and also make plays for others.  Eddie and Jones have more limitations in terms of size for Eddie, and court sense for Jones.

[MBunge]

If he's hurt or ineffective this season that's a very big blow to the heat.

Not really.  I never understood the Heat making Miller a top priority, given that they've already got two of the top 10 players in the league in the same spots Miller would play.

Miller would have fit better with Boston, who will be looking to rest Ray and Pierce as much as possible.  But in Miami, Wade and LeBron are going to be playing major minutes in any close game, with Miller getting most of his playing time in blow out wins or losses.

The key reserve for Miami is Haslem.  If he goes down, the Heat frontcourt becomes Bosh and a bunch of stiffs.

Mike

Miller gives them spacing. It's a huge blow!

Eddie and James Jones give you the same spacing as Miller and for a lot less than 5 million dollars a year.

Mike

Eddie House, more than likely, won't even be part of the rotation. His game has really gone down. Jones is an average NBA player and very inconsistent. Let's not lose sight of the other things Miller brings to the table besides his shooting. Things like rebounding, ball handing, passing, unselfishness (sometimes to a fault), and a high basketball IQ

 

The point is that he's not going to be on the court enough to do much of those things besides scoring.  There just aren't a lot of minutes available for Miller and when he is on the court, he's not going to be doing a lot more than spotting up for 3s.

Preseason stats

Mike Miller 24.4 minutes, 9.4 points, 3.6 rebs, 3.2 assists, .385 from  3
James Jones 27.3 minutes, 9.5 points, 1.7 rebs, .5 assists, .417 from 3

And just to compare to a player the Heat could have probably kept for far, faaaaaar less than what they're paying Miller...

Quentin Richardson 23.2 minutes, 8.2 points, 4.7 rebs, 2.3 assists, .375 from 3

Mike 

[guava_wrench]

If he's hurt or ineffective this season that's a very big blow to the heat.

Not really.  I never understood the Heat making Miller a top priority, given that they've already got two of the top 10 players in the league in the same spots Miller would play.

Miller would have fit better with Boston, who will be looking to rest Ray and Pierce as much as possible.  But in Miami, Wade and LeBron are going to be playing major minutes in any close game, with Miller getting most of his playing time in blow out wins or losses.

The key reserve for Miami is Haslem.  If he goes down, the Heat frontcourt becomes Bosh and a bunch of stiffs.

Mike

Miller gives them spacing. It's a huge blow!

Eddie and James Jones give you the same spacing as Miller and for a lot less than 5 million dollars a year.

Mike

Eddie House, more than likely, won't even be part of the rotation. His game has really gone down. Jones is an average NBA player and very inconsistent. Let's not lose sight of the other things Miller brings to the table besides his shooting. Things like rebounding, ball handing, passing, unselfishness (sometimes to a fault), and a high basketball IQ

 

The point is that he's not going to be on the court enough to do much of those things besides scoring.  There just aren't a lot of minutes available for Miller and when he is on the court, he's not going to be doing a lot more than spotting up for 3s.

Preseason stats

Mike Miller 24.4 minutes, 9.4 points, 3.6 rebs, 3.2 assists, .385 from  3
James Jones 27.3 minutes, 9.5 points, 1.7 rebs, .5 assists, .417 from 3

And just to compare to a player the Heat could have probably kept for far, faaaaaar less than what they're paying Miller...

Quentin Richardson 23.2 minutes, 8.2 points, 4.7 rebs, 2.3 assists, .375 from 3

Mike 

We can't glean much from preseason minutes.

[the_Bird]

Mike Miller's another ballhandler and distributor, in addition to being one of the league's best shooters.  His game is best when he's a little more selfish, but he's spent the past two seasons as a de-facto PG in Washington and Minnesota.  I do think they envisioned a lot of LeBron/Wade/Miller pairings, with all three guys being able to act as a "PG."  Losing him for an extended period is a pretty big deal.

We know Eddie House's limitations.  If they try and play him a lot against us, he may get hot and hit some 3s but he's not going to be playing the PG for them.  He won't get the ball across halfcourt against either Rondo or Nate.  

[Birdbrain]

just saw this on ESPN, Mike Miller hurt his hand in practice and could be out for a few weeks.

Looks like the much anticipated game against Miami is gona start with a few players hurt already: D West, JO, Wade, and Miller.

any news if West and JO will play in the opener?

That's sad.  

From last nights game it appears that West will most certainly play but, JO is questionable for the opener.

[TBreezy]

huh - delmonte west is suspended for the first 10 games

[Eddie20]

If he's hurt or ineffective this season that's a very big blow to the heat.

Not really.  I never understood the Heat making Miller a top priority, given that they've already got two of the top 10 players in the league in the same spots Miller would play.

Miller would have fit better with Boston, who will be looking to rest Ray and Pierce as much as possible.  But in Miami, Wade and LeBron are going to be playing major minutes in any close game, with Miller getting most of his playing time in blow out wins or losses.

The key reserve for Miami is Haslem.  If he goes down, the Heat frontcourt becomes Bosh and a bunch of stiffs.

Mike

Miller gives them spacing. It's a huge blow!

Eddie and James Jones give you the same spacing as Miller and for a lot less than 5 million dollars a year.

Mike

Eddie House, more than likely, won't even be part of the rotation. His game has really gone down. Jones is an average NBA player and very inconsistent. Let's not lose sight of the other things Miller brings to the table besides his shooting. Things like rebounding, ball handing, passing, unselfishness (sometimes to a fault), and a high basketball IQ

 

The point is that he's not going to be on the court enough to do much of those things besides scoring.  There just aren't a lot of minutes available for Miller and when he is on the court, he's not going to be doing a lot more than spotting up for 3s.

Preseason stats

Mike Miller 24.4 minutes, 9.4 points, 3.6 rebs, 3.2 assists, .385 from  3
James Jones 27.3 minutes, 9.5 points, 1.7 rebs, .5 assists, .417 from 3

And just to compare to a player the Heat could have probably kept for far, faaaaaar less than what they're paying Miller...

Quentin Richardson 23.2 minutes, 8.2 points, 4.7 rebs, 2.3 assists, .375 from 3

Mike 

We can't glean much from preseason minutes.

You thinking that he's not going to be on the court much is incorrect. All 3 are swingmen, but with the amount of ball handling done by James and Wade you don't really need a true PG with them. They will be the facilitators on offense and it's up to other players to compliment their style and provide spacing with outside shooting. Neither Chalmers or Arroyo is anywhere near the caliber of shooter, or player for that matter, that Miller is. This is why you'll often see Miller, Wade, and James together on the court a lot. And probably when it matters most, at the end of games.

[hpantazo]

If he's hurt or ineffective this season that's a very big blow to the heat.

Not really.  I never understood the Heat making Miller a top priority, given that they've already got two of the top 10 players in the league in the same spots Miller would play.

Miller would have fit better with Boston, who will be looking to rest Ray and Pierce as much as possible.  But in Miami, Wade and LeBron are going to be playing major minutes in any close game, with Miller getting most of his playing time in blow out wins or losses.

The key reserve for Miami is Haslem.  If he goes down, the Heat frontcourt becomes Bosh and a bunch of stiffs.

Mike

Miller gives them spacing. It's a huge blow!

Eddie and James Jones give you the same spacing as Miller and for a lot less than 5 million dollars a year.

Mike

Eddie House, more than likely, won't even be part of the rotation. His game has really gone down. Jones is an average NBA player and very inconsistent. Let's not lose sight of the other things Miller brings to the table besides his shooting. Things like rebounding, ball handing, passing, unselfishness (sometimes to a fault), and a high basketball IQ

 

The point is that he's not going to be on the court enough to do much of those things besides scoring.  There just aren't a lot of minutes available for Miller and when he is on the court, he's not going to be doing a lot more than spotting up for 3s.

Preseason stats

Mike Miller 24.4 minutes, 9.4 points, 3.6 rebs, 3.2 assists, .385 from  3
James Jones 27.3 minutes, 9.5 points, 1.7 rebs, .5 assists, .417 from 3

And just to compare to a player the Heat could have probably kept for far, faaaaaar less than what they're paying Miller...

Quentin Richardson 23.2 minutes, 8.2 points, 4.7 rebs, 2.3 assists, .375 from 3

Mike  

We can't glean much from preseason minutes.

You thinking that he's not going to be on the court much is incorrect. All 3 are swingmen, but with the amount of ball handling done by James and Wade you don't really need a true PG with them. They will be the facilitators on offense and it's up to other players to compliment their style and provide spacing with outside shooting. Neither Chalmers or Arroyo is anywhere near the caliber of shooter, or player for that matter, that Miller is. This is why you'll often see Miller, Wade, and James together on the court a lot. And probably when it matters most, at the end of games.

I agree. Miller would be a huge loss for them, and he would play a lot of minutes together with Wade and Lebron, that's why the Heat went after him so hard. Their top priority for that spot was Ray, but thankfully he preferred boston. Miller on the floor with Lebron and Wade helps stretch the floor with a true ballhandler and shooter so that Lebron and Wade can drive at will. That's supposed to be a huge part of their offense. You can't really say anything about the preseason stats for them because the starters have yet to play a full half together.

Eddie House? Seriously? Didn't you see him get totally shut down by Courtney Lee in big games enough when he was here? He also can't handle the ball, or create a shot, or shoot over anyone, and his skills have deteriorated even more.

[MBunge]

We can't glean much from preseason minutes.

Last regular season

Mike Miller - 54 games, 33.4 minutes, 10.9 points, 6.2 rebs, 3.9 assists, .480 from 3
James Jones - 36 games, 14 minutes, 4.1 points, 1.3 rebs, .5 assists, .411 from 3
Quentin Richardson - 76 games, 27.4 minutes, 8.9 points, 4.9 rebs, 1.2 assists, .397 from 3.

Given just these two alternatives and what the Heat back-up wing needs to do this year, I don't see how Miller is worth 5 million dollars a year.

Mike

[Birdbrain]

huh - delmonte west is suspended for the first 10 games

Well yes good point haha I meant he said that he could play if it was regular season game.

[greenpride32]

This just shows how ridiculous all the talk about C's health issues really is.  Every team has injury problems to deal with.  Miller, Lebron, Wade, House, all have been limited in preseason by injuries, but guess what; it's part of the game.

On the C's it's just JON and Marquis that have a repeated history of injuries.  KG and Perk both had a major injury, but outside of that have not been known to miss signifcant stints.  I think both Ray and Paul had season ending surgery once in their careers to miss 20-30 games at the end of the year. Same thing happened to Dwade, CP3, and on and on.

[rickyfan3.0...]

I'm sorry, but the Mike Miller signing was AWFUL. Why give a guy the max MLE for 5 years to play 40-50 games a year off your bench? Terrible signing. For all the good they did, they overreacted on that one. I like him as a player, but that is a killer contract.

[Fafnir]

I'm sorry, but the Mike Miller signing was AWFUL. Why give a guy the max MLE for 5 years to play 40-50 games a year off your bench? Terrible signing. For all the good they did, they overreacted on that one. I like him as a player, but that is a killer contract.

Why?

They're not going to have cap space for 5 years, so why not overpay for the best roleplayer you can get? They'll be in heavy tax land anyways, so who cares?

[MBunge]

This is why you'll often see Miller, Wade, and James together on the court a lot. And probably when it matters most, at the end of games.

You may see that line up for the last shot at the end of games when Miami needs a 3, but I do not understand where the idea came from that we're going to see Wade, Bron and Miller on the court alot together.

Last year, the Heat played Mario Chalmers 26 minutes a game and Carlos Arroyo 23 minutes a game.  In the preseason, it's been Chalmers 20 minutes a game, Arroyo 23 minutes a game, while PG Patrick Beverly has played 23 minutes a game and PG Kenny Hasbrouck has played 24 minutes a game.

There is NO evidence and NO indication that Miami plans to play ANY significant minutes this season without a traditional PG on the court.

Mike