Stephane Lasme

[indeedproceed]

Ideally I'd have Lasme..but I bet we keep Wafer.

What makes you say that? Gut feeling?

Yes, that and Wafer ideally has the scoring ability of Nate-Rob and the size of Tony Allen. That's a huge team need, but notice I said "Ideally"

I'd read somewhere that Wafer failed to make a single shot during the entire training camp...and now this. He doesn't look anywhere close to the player that was on Houston's roster.

Didn't make a single shot during training camp? I'd love to see that link.

If I remember correctly (which I may be wrong about), both Pierce and Doc praised Wafer.

[barefacedmonk]

Ideally I'd have Lasme..but I bet we keep Wafer.

What makes you say that? Gut feeling?

Yes, that and Wafer ideally has the scoring ability of Nate-Rob and the size of Tony Allen. That's a huge team need, but notice I said "Ideally"

I'd read somewhere that Wafer failed to make a single shot during the entire training camp...and now this. He doesn't look anywhere close to the player that was on Houston's roster.

Didn't make a single shot during training camp? I'd love to see that link.

If I remember correctly (which I may be wrong about), both Pierce and Doc praised Wafer.

I don't know if I understood this correctly...but here it is:

‘All the new guys, the more they can play with the starters, the more beneficial it is for them,” said Rivers. “They’re the guy not guarded, so they’ll shoot wide-open shots. That’s what Von does. He hasn’t made a shot in camp yet, but he’s a great shooter, he is.

http://www.celticstown.com/2010/10/04/morning-walkthrough-15th-spot-still-open-wafer-hasnt-made-a-shot-in-camp-yet/

[indeedproceed]

Ideally I'd have Lasme..but I bet we keep Wafer.

What makes you say that? Gut feeling?

Yes, that and Wafer ideally has the scoring ability of Nate-Rob and the size of Tony Allen. That's a huge team need, but notice I said "Ideally"

I'd read somewhere that Wafer failed to make a single shot during the entire training camp...and now this. He doesn't look anywhere close to the player that was on Houston's roster.

Didn't make a single shot during training camp? I'd love to see that link.

If I remember correctly (which I may be wrong about), both Pierce and Doc praised Wafer.

I don't know if I understood this correctly...but here it is:

‘All the new guys, the more they can play with the starters, the more beneficial it is for them,” said Rivers. “They’re the guy not guarded, so they’ll shoot wide-open shots. That’s what Von does. He hasn’t made a shot in camp yet, but he’s a great shooter, he is.

http://www.celticstown.com/2010/10/04/morning-walkthrough-15th-spot-still-open-wafer-hasnt-made-a-shot-in-camp-yet/

I don't think Doc was being literal there...that would be a big deal. I think what he's saying is that Von hasn't shown his shooting ability to the level Doc expected.

That's still kind of a big deal, but I'm not ready to quit on the guy yet.

EDIT: But you'll also see Doc crediting Wafer with being a 'great shooter'. I'll agree with what you said earlier though that "He doesn't look anywhere close to the player that was on Houston's roster"...it looks like based on his past season and what he's done so far that the one year in Houston might be lightening in a bottle.

[Mencius]

I liked what I saw from Lasme tonight too, but in truth, I think all his shots were from 3 feet and in.  Did not attempt a jumper.  Loved his activity though.  He might have been going nuts because I think he was matched up (for the most part) with Jason Kapono, and Lasme can simply physically overwhelm an unathletic guy like that.

Hoping he has a another strong showing tomorrow against different competition.  Would really like a long guy that can defend taller 3s.  We have no one like him on the squad.

[barefacedmonk]

Ideally I'd have Lasme..but I bet we keep Wafer.

What makes you say that? Gut feeling?

Yes, that and Wafer ideally has the scoring ability of Nate-Rob and the size of Tony Allen. That's a huge team need, but notice I said "Ideally"

I'd read somewhere that Wafer failed to make a single shot during the entire training camp...and now this. He doesn't look anywhere close to the player that was on Houston's roster.

Didn't make a single shot during training camp? I'd love to see that link.

If I remember correctly (which I may be wrong about), both Pierce and Doc praised Wafer.

I don't know if I understood this correctly...but here it is:

‘All the new guys, the more they can play with the starters, the more beneficial it is for them,” said Rivers. “They’re the guy not guarded, so they’ll shoot wide-open shots. That’s what Von does. He hasn’t made a shot in camp yet, but he’s a great shooter, he is.

http://www.celticstown.com/2010/10/04/morning-walkthrough-15th-spot-still-open-wafer-hasnt-made-a-shot-in-camp-yet/

I don't think Doc was being literal there...that would be a big deal. I think what he's saying is that Von hasn't shown his shooting ability to the level Doc expected.

That's still kind of a big deal, but I'm not ready to quit on the guy yet.

EDIT: But you'll also see Doc crediting Wafer with being a 'great shooter'. I'll agree with what you said earlier though that "He doesn't look anywhere close to the player that was on Houston's roster"...it looks like based on his past season and what he's done so far that the one year in Houston might be lightening in a bottle.

Well, I guess with that kind of contract he can't hurt us much....but his tenure with Houston was definitely a flash in the pan....I mean even Olympiakos waived him. I really hope that he works out for us...but I'm not holding my breath.

[guava_wrench]

I liked what I saw from Lasme tonight too, but in truth, I think all his shots were from 3 feet and in.  Did not attempt a jumper.  Loved his activity though.  He might have been going nuts because I think he was matched up (for the most part) with Jason Kapono, and Lasme can simply physically overwhelm an unathletic guy like that.

Hoping he has a another strong showing tomorrow against different competition.  Would really like a long guy that can defend taller 3s.  We have no one like him on the squad.

Hopefully he will get to play against better players too since we will be playing the second game of a back to back. Doc often doesn't like to play the main guys back to back in preseason (kinda like what Philly did too).

[banks336]

In my opinion based off this game Lasme is Brandon Bass part two if he keeps playing like this which is a good thing.!

[Bankshot]

    Is Delonte a lock? I always was a big fan of him for his effort and toughness but whenever he's handling the ball I'm nervous. He's a poor defender on point guards and undersized at the two. He's a better all around player than say a guy like Mario West but are the C's better off with someone like that or another lesser player (but a specialist)like Von Wafer? I really like Delonte but because his ball handling is poor I think his decision making really suffers and can throw the team off and make for some bad possessions.Anyone agree with this?

That's always been his problem, but that's because he's not a real point guard.  I'm not sure it's going to change now.  He seem to always lose his position to other players.

[ssspence]

Looked good. Liked him. Don't know where he finds minutes though.

After marquis healthy dream fail 

exactly -- this is the question to me, plain and simple. can the guy defend at the 3 in the NBA? Beacause we're going to need that player this year. We don't need guards, we need 3s. 

He won A-10 Defender of the Year, and D-League Defender of the Year. Does he have the versitility to operate more as a Mbah a Moute type? If so, I would certainly take him over Wafer or West. He's still here over Gaffney, and that's saying something.

[ssspence]

I liked what I saw from Lasme tonight too, but in truth, I think all his shots were from 3 feet and in.  Did not attempt a jumper.  Loved his activity though.  He might have been going nuts because I think he was matched up (for the most part) with Jason Kapono, and Lasme can simply physically overwhelm an unathletic guy like that.

Hoping he has a another strong showing tomorrow against different competition.  Would really like a long guy that can defend taller 3s.  We have no one like him on the squad.

Who cares about his offense -- he can bring a couple of points to the table on garbage and rebounds, like he did last night. And we're not going to need scoring from him if the new 2nd unit can hold up.

It's his D that's the issue.

[ssspence]

    Is Delonte a lock? I always was a big fan of him for his effort and toughness but whenever he's handling the ball I'm nervous. He's a poor defender on point guards and undersized at the two. He's a better all around player than say a guy like Mario West but are the C's better off with someone like that or another lesser player (but a specialist)like Von Wafer? I really like Delonte but because his ball handling is poor I think his decision making really suffers and can throw the team off and make for some bad possessions.Anyone agree with this?

That's always been his problem, but that's because he's not a real point guard.  I'm not sure it's going to change now.  He seem to always lose his position to other players.

He's a lock. He's a very good NBA player making a min salary. They don't grow on trees.

[Chris]

It's his D that's the issue.

That's the key.  He seemed to have some Leon Powe in him offensively and on the boards (although nowhere near as polished), but, much like Leon when he got in the league, the defense is suspect.  In order to make a team like this, with his skillset, he would need to be an elite defender, and from what I have seen, he is pretty average at best.  Put him against actual NBA players, and I think the shine would come off pretty quickly. 

Plus, there just is no room for him on this team.  They have much more use for an extra wing than an extra big man at this point.

[Bankshot]

    Is Delonte a lock? I always was a big fan of him for his effort and toughness but whenever he's handling the ball I'm nervous. He's a poor defender on point guards and undersized at the two. He's a better all around player than say a guy like Mario West but are the C's better off with someone like that or another lesser player (but a specialist)like Von Wafer? I really like Delonte but because his ball handling is poor I think his decision making really suffers and can throw the team off and make for some bad possessions.Anyone agree with this?

That's always been his problem, but that's because he's not a real point guard.  I'm not sure it's going to change now.  He seem to always lose his position to other players.

He's a lock. He's a very good NBA player making a min salary. They don't grow on trees.

Oh, I think he's a lock too, but I do agree with Cornbread.

[Sizzlack]

I liked what I saw from Lasme tonight too, but in truth, I think all his shots were from 3 feet and in.  Did not attempt a jumper.  Loved his activity though.  He might have been going nuts because I think he was matched up (for the most part) with Jason Kapono, and Lasme can simply physically overwhelm an unathletic guy like that.

Hoping he has a another strong showing tomorrow against different competition.  Would really like a long guy that can defend taller 3s.  We have no one like him on the squad.

Who cares about his offense -- he can bring a couple of points to the table on garbage and rebounds, like he did last night. And we're not going to need scoring from him if the new 2nd unit can hold up.

It's his D that's the issue.

Really? Because he won defensive player of the year back when he played in the D-league. Seems to me that he has some ability there.

[Roy H.]

I liked what I saw from Lasme tonight too, but in truth, I think all his shots were from 3 feet and in.  Did not attempt a jumper.  Loved his activity though.  He might have been going nuts because I think he was matched up (for the most part) with Jason Kapono, and Lasme can simply physically overwhelm an unathletic guy like that.

Hoping he has a another strong showing tomorrow against different competition.  Would really like a long guy that can defend taller 3s.  We have no one like him on the squad.

Who cares about his offense -- he can bring a couple of points to the table on garbage and rebounds, like he did last night. And we're not going to need scoring from him if the new 2nd unit can hold up.

It's his D that's the issue.

Really? Because he won defensive player of the year back when he played in the D-league. Seems to me that he has some ability there.

He has ability against lesser players as a 4/5.  How would he adjust to defending the best players in the world as a small forward, a position he's never really played?

Also, his defense is more in the way of team defense, where his blocks are big.  One-on-one, he's never really been a lockdown guy, which doesn't necessarily speak well of his transition to the 3.