NBA expands rules on technicals (Merged)

[fairweatherfan]

They said the same thing a few years ago, and then had to dial it back almost immediately after the refs started calling mass amounts of borderline Ts.  I'd expect about the same thing this time.

Yup -- same, same.

Personally, I'd like to see a zero tolerance policy that disallowed any communication with the referees from the players. Yeah, it would suck for awhile ... but the players would adapt in time and the game would be better for it.

I wouldn't mind seeing the rugby rule where all communication with the ref is either by the coach or a designated team captain.  If the captain gets enough Ts the status is stripped for the season and somebody else has to take over.  It'd clean things up a lot.

[Fafnir]

They said the same thing a few years ago, and then had to dial it back almost immediately after the refs started calling mass amounts of borderline Ts.  I'd expect about the same thing this time.

Yup -- same, same.

Personally, I'd like to see a zero tolerance policy that disallowed any communication with the referees from the players. Yeah, it would suck for awhile ... but the players would adapt in time and the game would be better for it.

I wouldn't mind seeing the rugby rule where all communication with the ref is either by the coach or a designated team captain.  If the captain gets enough Ts the status is stripped for the season and somebody else has to take over.  It'd clean things up a lot.

That'd probably be the best way to get things between refs and players under control.

I don't think either the refs or players want to change things that much, so I don't see it happening.

[thirstyboots18]

Say, give each team three challenges a game, with the replay up on the jumbotron.

And with the decision depending on the volume of applause from the crowd?

Hardly. But if the calls are possibly going to be reviewed, some trigger finger refs might think twice before blowing the whistle if they knew the overturn might happen publically and immediately.  

[indeedproceed]

They said the same thing a few years ago, and then had to dial it back almost immediately after the refs started calling mass amounts of borderline Ts.  I'd expect about the same thing this time.

Yup -- same, same.

Personally, I'd like to see a zero tolerance policy that disallowed any communication with the referees from the players. Yeah, it would suck for awhile ... but the players would adapt in time and the game would be better for it.

I wouldn't mind seeing the rugby rule where all communication with the ref is either by the coach or a designated team captain.  If the captain gets enough Ts the status is stripped for the season and somebody else has to take over.  It'd clean things up a lot.

That'd probably be the best way to get things between refs and players under control.

I don't think either the refs or players want to change things that much, so I don't see it happening.

The rugby rule would clean things up a lot. Players would still be able to vent emotionally, and it would create a degree of separation between official and players.

[Bankshot]

Oh joy!  They want players to act like robots and show no emotion?   Is that even possible?  I can't even describe how much I dislike Stern!

[fairweatherfan]

Oh yeah, and remember a couple of years ago when they were gonna start fining guys for flopping?  Did even a single fine come out of that?

I think this is more of an attempt at deterrence than a real policy change.

[guava_wrench]

Definitely a move in the right direction. I'm sure many of us have had to adjust in rec leagues that were intolerant of overreacting to calls.

My experience is that I initially am shocked about many calls against me, but then I realized I can't really tell because I could actually see what I did. Other times, I just accept that the refs are going to miss some calls both ways.

[Finkelskyhook]

What the game of Basketball needs is....another layer of referees to ref the refs, if you get my meaning.  The inmates seem to be taking over the asylum.  

This actually seems like a good idea to me.  Have a supervisor ref sitting courtside and have the refs huddle with him during timeouts and between quarters.  Or have someone watching from another location on television and have that person comunicate with the referee team during breaks in the action. 

Why wait until a game is over for the refs to receive feedback?  This makes perfect sense.

  As a concept, it makes very little sense. Having officials change the way they ref from quarter to quarter (or timeout to timeout) will cause much more harm than good. Players will never be able to get a feel for how the game is being called, how much contact is allowed or the like.

In both football (American)and tennis players or a team are allowed a certain number of challenges (to be reviewed by separate officials), I believe.  Any time a challenge goes the team's way, it does not count against the total number allowed.  If the challenge is decided against, the number of challenges left decreases by one.  People are pretty careful about the challenges because they don't want to get to the end of the game/match when a challenge might mean the difference between win and loss and not have one to give.  Say, give each team three challenges a game, with the replay up on the jumbotron.

Excellent point, Thirsty....One minor problem with the concept in the NBA.  The same rulebook doesn't apply apply to every player.  In baseball, a player is either out or safe.  A catch is a catch etc.  In the NBA, a travel is a travel if a role player takes steps.  But not if the messiah does.  Not if Wade does.  Pierce's upfake/charge is a charge if anybody else uses the move except Pierce. And a hundred different exceptions.

They'd need an encyclopedia britanica of rulebooks to interpret.

[Rtpas11]

I believe they want to take even more money from these guys or they just want the NBA to close shop, because this is humanely impossible. I wouldn't be surprised if some the guys decide to quit and go over seas... Again this is impossible. Reaction is just that a reaction (normal), if its excessive (meaning after the 1st reaction you continue to pout) then you should get a Technical. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE AND I'M FURIOUS RIGHT NOW Most of these guys (the star players) won't be able to play many games because of serving suspensions. DO THE FANS WANT THAT

[Finkelskyhook]

I believe they want to take even more money from these guys or they just want the NBA to close shop, because this is humanely impossible. I wouldn't be surprised if some the guys decide to quit and go over seas... Again this is impossible. Reaction is just that a reaction (normal), if its excessive (meaning after the 1st reaction you continue to pout) then you should get a Technical. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE AND I'M FURIOUS RIGHT NOW Most of these guys (the star players) won't be able to play many games because of serving suspensions. DO THE FANS WANT THAT

Not to worry....

I'm guessing that this, like most NBA rules, won't apply to star players.

[xmuscularghandix]

STUPID.

I thought the NFL was the no fun league.

[Redz]

I don't have a problem with much of it, but it will be interesting to see the lengths the refs take with their new rope.  The "expressions" part is particularly potentially problematic.  What's next?  T's for thinking unpure thoughts?

[ACF]

What the game of Basketball needs is....another layer of referees to ref the refs, if you get my meaning.  The inmates seem to be taking over the asylum.  

This has actually been tried in soccer.

Please elaborate.

In Bulgaria, at least, the football federation delegates a person to each game. The said person observes the game and, among other things, evaluates the referees. Or should I say "grades", because they're literally assigning a 1 to 10 grade on the performance of the refs, which can affect future appointments.

This tends to have zero effect on the quality of refereeing.

I see. Thanks.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Who posted this Richard Pryor? Paul Mooney wrote the hell out this joke!

Seriously, this is pure BS!! Even in golf the players get upset and yell at themselves, clubs, the grass, and the sand!!! This is dumb!