NBA expands rules on technicals (Merged)

[wdleehi]

What the game of Basketball needs is....another layer of referees to ref the refs, if you get my meaning.  The inmates seem to be taking over the asylum.  

This actually seems like a good idea to me.  Have a supervisor ref sitting courtside and have the refs huddle with him during timeouts and between quarters.  Or have someone watching from another location on television and have that person comunicate with the referee team during breaks in the action. 

Why wait until a game is over for the refs to receive feedback?  This makes perfect sense.

  As a concept, it makes very little sense. Having officials change the way they ref from quarter to quarter (or timeout to timeout) will cause much more harm than good. Players will never be able to get a feel for how the game is being called, how much contact is allowed or the like.

The best way to do it is what you see in the NCAA tournament.


The man in charge of official let them know how he wants the games called.  The crews that do the best job doing it the way he says move on and earn more game checks.


Do the same thing in the NBA. 


Of course, they probably already do that.  The problem is the way they want games called is different then the way we want them called.

[crownsy]

Nice one NBA, because the problem is officials don't call T's enough, not the way that the trigger happy guys you have in place call double T's with no thought/use them to show the players who's equipment is bigger.


Anyway, semi-rant off, new T rules make it even easier for the 3 blind mice on the court to T guys up.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2010-09-24/nba-adds-to-technical-foul-guidelines

My favorite part is that the reason for these changes is that they've done market research that shows the fans want the game to be called tighter.

I think they've confused "tighter" for "correct and fairly"

[Yakmanev]

What the game of Basketball needs is....another layer of referees to ref the refs, if you get my meaning.  The inmates seem to be taking over the asylum.  

This actually seems like a good idea to me.  Have a supervisor ref sitting courtside and have the refs huddle with him during timeouts and between quarters.  Or have someone watching from another location on television and have that person comunicate with the referee team during breaks in the action. 

Why wait until a game is over for the refs to receive feedback?  This makes perfect sense.

  As a concept, it makes very little sense. Having officials change the way they ref from quarter to quarter (or timeout to timeout) will cause much more harm than good. Players will never be able to get a feel for how the game is being called, how much contact is allowed or the like.

They kind of do that now but amongst themselves. The refs watch game highlights during halftime to review their performance. I don't know who puts the tape together but I would assume someone from the division of officiating.

as per NBA TV You Make the Call with Ronnie Nunn.

[Lucky17]

I seem to recall the NBA saying last season they would start calling technicals for "flopping". Never happened.

It's one thing to have a rule or discretionary policy in the books. It's another to see it enforced.

If they do start T-ing up players for "air punches" and facial gestures, games are going to last three hours. Scoring will be up, though, so that'll be a plus for "the fans."

[Finkelskyhook]

If they apply these rules literally, Teams will have to expand rosters to 30 players to field 5 by the 4th quarter.

[Fafnir]

As Perkins demonstrated, double ts are used too often in my opinion.

I think in the end this is all talk, you'll see a ton of techs in the first month of the season. Then it will slowly get back to normal. By the end of the season we won't see any visible difference in how the game is called.

[housecall]

If the rules are applied fairly Kobe,D.Fisher,and Lebron will pick up more T's than they have been in the past.I see T's written all over them the upcoming season.All three are guilty of all those new infractions a lot.

[Finkelskyhook]

Excellent point about flopping, Lucky17.

Wow.....If they applied the new rules with the flopping rule...Glenn Davis would be T'd up in warmups.

LOL....I can't imagine McHale and Ainge playing in the new NBA

[Finkelskyhook]

If the rules are applied fairly Kobe,D.Fisher,and Lebron will pick up more T's than they have been in the past.I see T's written all over them the upcoming season.All three are guilty of all those new infractions a lot.

Kobe and Fisher yes.  The officials will NEVER call a T on the messiah.  The rules don't apply to him.

[TheLegendaryClub]

Tommy's gonna freak.

[wdleehi]

Tommy's gonna freak.

That will be the next rule change.


Calling T's on the teams game announcers. 

[thirstyboots18]

What the game of Basketball needs is....another layer of referees to ref the refs, if you get my meaning.  The inmates seem to be taking over the asylum.  

This actually seems like a good idea to me.  Have a supervisor ref sitting courtside and have the refs huddle with him during timeouts and between quarters.  Or have someone watching from another location on television and have that person comunicate with the referee team during breaks in the action. 

Why wait until a game is over for the refs to receive feedback?  This makes perfect sense.

  As a concept, it makes very little sense. Having officials change the way they ref from quarter to quarter (or timeout to timeout) will cause much more harm than good. Players will never be able to get a feel for how the game is being called, how much contact is allowed or the like.

In both football (American)and tennis players or a team are allowed a certain number of challenges (to be reviewed by separate officials), I believe.  Any time a challenge goes the team's way, it does not count against the total number allowed.  If the challenge is decided against, the number of challenges left decreases by one.  People are pretty careful about the challenges because they don't want to get to the end of the game/match when a challenge might mean the difference between win and loss and not have one to give.  Say, give each team three challenges a game, with the replay up on the jumbotron.

[kozlodoev]

Say, give each team three challenges a game, with the replay up on the jumbotron.

And with the decision depending on the volume of applause from the crowd?

[Who]

They said the same thing a few years ago, and then had to dial it back almost immediately after the refs started calling mass amounts of borderline Ts.  I'd expect about the same thing this time.

Yup -- same, same.

Personally, I'd like to see a zero tolerance policy that disallowed any communication with the referees from the players. Yeah, it would suck for awhile ... but the players would adapt in time and the game would be better for it.

I hate all the whining about foul calls.

[Fafnir]

If the rules are applied fairly Kobe,D.Fisher,and Lebron will pick up more T's than they have been in the past.I see T's written all over them the upcoming season.All three are guilty of all those new infractions a lot.

Kobe and Fisher yes.  The officials will NEVER call a T on the messiah.  The rules don't apply to him.

Hey he got 4 this year....