Posey on the move

[BballTim]

Let's be clear:  Posey is better than Daniels, so he would be an upgrade for us.  If Posey gets waived, I'd love to make a run at him for the vet min.

  I don't know that the 2010-2011 Posey would be as good as Daniels.

  Didn't Posey have a trade kicker? Buying him out from a 2 year deal seems awfully pricey. Is he going to give up on that 4th year's salary (and part of the 3rd year) to sign a vet min contract on a contending team? If so, he must *really* be kicking himself for signing with NO over Boston.

[j804]

Let's be clear:  Posey is better than Daniels, so he would be an upgrade for us.  If Posey gets waived, I'd love to make a run at him for the vet min.

I agree with the second part, but I'm not so sure Posey is better than a healthy Daniels at this point in his career.  But adding him for the vet min would increase our versatility tremendously, and he's probably the best guy we could get for the min at this point.  He still has to get bought out first, though.

judging from the past isnt posey going to demand more money than vet min?

unless he settles for less for a run at a championship, in which Miami will be trying to snatch him up too

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Let's be clear:  Posey is better than Daniels, so he would be an upgrade for us.  If Posey gets waived, I'd love to make a run at him for the vet min.

I agree with the second part, but I'm not so sure Posey is better than a healthy Daniels at this point in his career.  But adding him for the vet min would increase our versatility tremendously, and he's probably the best guy we could get for the min at this point.  He still has to get bought out first, though.

agree, current posey is NOT the player we had in our championship run, his defense is not as good due to age/quickness
I'll take a healthy daniels over him at this point easily, however if he's available after a buyout for min of course.  Please remember though Posey is an nba hired gun going to high bidder, not knocking him on this but he's done it enough in the past.

[mgent]

Let's be clear:  Posey is better than Daniels, so he would be an upgrade for us.  If Posey gets waived, I'd love to make a run at him for the vet min.

I agree with the second part, but I'm not so sure Posey is better than a healthy Daniels at this point in his career.  But adding him for the vet min would increase our versatility tremendously, and he's probably the best guy we could get for the min at this point.  He still has to get bought out first, though.

He's a better defender, spaces the floor, and can actually play the 3.  Plus we all know Marquis isn't even capable of staying healthy.  How exactly is Daniels better?

[ChampKind]

Now, one intriguing deal, now that Indiana is thick at the 3 spot but thin at the 4, would be Baby/Scal for Posey and Rush, if Indiana would do it.

I think Indiana would do this deal and come out ahead talent-wise. Posey's biggest asset on that squad is his veteran leadership, and Rush is an inconsistent wing that will be average at best based on what he's shown in Indiana (his frustrating play on the court would harken C's fans back to the Tony Allen era). Though the Celtics get a bit deeper, I don't think they gain much from this trade as a whole.

Meanwhile, Davis gives them a Hansborough-esque clone at PF that can eat minutes and put up solid numbers when given the chance. The Pacers get more talent and consistency out of this deal and get what they need - a semi-legit big who plays hards and can start at PF most nights.

I don't think the Pacers will waive Posey, with Earl Watson leaving, Dunleavy on the block thanks to his EC, TJ Ford doing TJ Ford things, and Jeff Foster being a raging dick, they could use some veteran strength, which Posey has in spades. I think Bird regards him as the right type of player for his young squad.

[BballTim]

Let's be clear:  Posey is better than Daniels, so he would be an upgrade for us.  If Posey gets waived, I'd love to make a run at him for the vet min.

I agree with the second part, but I'm not so sure Posey is better than a healthy Daniels at this point in his career.  But adding him for the vet min would increase our versatility tremendously, and he's probably the best guy we could get for the min at this point.  He still has to get bought out first, though.

He's a better defender, spaces the floor, and can actually play the 3.  Plus we all know Marquis isn't even capable of staying healthy.  How exactly is Daniels better?

  I don't think he's really a better defender at this point in time. He may space the floor but his 3 point shooting seems to be in decline. He is healthier, though.

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ChrisMannixSI
Gotta believe MIA will make a run at Posey if (when) he is bought out. Versatile, well liked and able to contribute even at his age.

ChrisMannixSI
Celtics will likely inquire about Posey for their final roster spot, too. Good fit there as well.
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I'd be [peeved] if Miami got Posey for the vet min and I would not be surprised at seeing that at all.  I definitely would take Posey back as the vet min.

lets see how danny will play this out

Why would Indy waive Posey? And why would Posey take substantially less from them in a buy out? It's not like he's in the last year of his deal -- Indy isn't going to pay him the majority of his salary for 2 years to go elsewhere.

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ChrisMannixSI
Gotta believe MIA will make a run at Posey if (when) he is bought out. Versatile, well liked and able to contribute even at his age.

ChrisMannixSI
Celtics will likely inquire about Posey for their final roster spot, too. Good fit there as well.
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I'd be [peeved] if Miami got Posey for the vet min and I would not be surprised at seeing that at all.  I definitely would take Posey back as the vet min.

lets see how danny will play this out

Why would Indy waive Posey? And why would Posey take substantially less from them in a buy out? It's not like he's in the last year of his deal -- Indy isn't going to pay him the majority of his salary for 2 years to go elsewhere.

Indiana would do it to save money. Posey would do it to play for a winning team. If Posey signed for the vet min for 2 years he could accept a buyout for his contract value - 2 vet min years. So Indiana would save about 2.6 million and Posey would break even.

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sounds good...love it

but not too sure about the rush and baby comparison?

lets forget posey for a moment, would you guys trade for rush with baby?

Had to do a little hw on Rush since we don't see many Pacers games in Bangor, Maine   A 6'6" guard is never a bad thing, but what about his defense?  Can he play the 3?

When Perk comes back, we have 5 legit PF-C guys.  I would trade Baby for a need in a heartbeat.

We only have 2 legit NBA PFs -- Garnett and Baby. O'Neal is strictly a C. The other O'Neal is strictly a C. Perk is strictly a C. Harangody has never played in the NBA.

Baby IS a need. He's a key rotation player who plays up in big games.

[mgent]

Let's be clear:  Posey is better than Daniels, so he would be an upgrade for us.  If Posey gets waived, I'd love to make a run at him for the vet min.

I agree with the second part, but I'm not so sure Posey is better than a healthy Daniels at this point in his career.  But adding him for the vet min would increase our versatility tremendously, and he's probably the best guy we could get for the min at this point.  He still has to get bought out first, though.

He's a better defender, spaces the floor, and can actually play the 3.  Plus we all know Marquis isn't even capable of staying healthy.  How exactly is Daniels better?

  I don't think he's really a better defender at this point in time. He may space the floor but his 3 point shooting seems to be in decline. He is healthier, though.

He's nothing like he was, but he's still a pretty good man-to-man and team defender.  Marquis is only a mediocre defender in my opinion.  And when you consider them both guarding the SF position, Posey definitely has the edge.

I agree his game is in decline, but I truly don't believe we'd see the same Posey we saw in NO if he came back here.

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ChrisMannixSI
Gotta believe MIA will make a run at Posey if (when) he is bought out. Versatile, well liked and able to contribute even at his age.

ChrisMannixSI
Celtics will likely inquire about Posey for their final roster spot, too. Good fit there as well.
17 minutes ago via UberTwitter

I'd be [peeved] if Miami got Posey for the vet min and I would not be surprised at seeing that at all.  I definitely would take Posey back as the vet min.

lets see how danny will play this out

Why would Indy waive Posey? And why would Posey take substantially less from them in a buy out? It's not like he's in the last year of his deal -- Indy isn't going to pay him the majority of his salary for 2 years to go elsewhere.

Indiana would do it to save money. Posey would do it to play for a winning team. If Posey signed for the vet min for 2 years he could accept a buyout for his contract value - 2 vet min years. So Indiana would save about 2.6 million and Posey would break even.

So Indiana would pay Posey $11mil over the next 2 years to play for another team? So they can save $2mil? Don't see it.

Who was the last player that was bought out of 2 years of a contract, and for what reason? It wasn't to save a couple of bucks, I'd bet.....

[Snakehead]

sounds good...love it

but not too sure about the rush and baby comparison?

lets forget posey for a moment, would you guys trade for rush with baby?

Had to do a little hw on Rush since we don't see many Pacers games in Bangor, Maine   A 6'6" guard is never a bad thing, but what about his defense?  Can he play the 3?

When Perk comes back, we have 5 legit PF-C guys.  I would trade Baby for a need in a heartbeat.

We only have 2 legit NBA PFs -- Garnett and Baby. O'Neal is strictly a C. The other O'Neal is strictly a C. Perk is strictly a C. Harangody has never played in the NBA.

Baby IS a need. He's a key rotation player who plays up in big games.

I am not for trading BBD, but Jermaine O'Neal can absolutely play PF... he has done it for a number of years. He, like Duncan, is just big enough to play C for a team and will if he is asked to. Why would he not be able to play PF?


And forget Posey.  He is not going to be bought out and he has a terrible contract.  He is a shell of his former self.  I hope he enjoyed his pay day, but his years in Green are past.

[BballTim]

Let's be clear:  Posey is better than Daniels, so he would be an upgrade for us.  If Posey gets waived, I'd love to make a run at him for the vet min.

I agree with the second part, but I'm not so sure Posey is better than a healthy Daniels at this point in his career.  But adding him for the vet min would increase our versatility tremendously, and he's probably the best guy we could get for the min at this point.  He still has to get bought out first, though.

He's a better defender, spaces the floor, and can actually play the 3.  Plus we all know Marquis isn't even capable of staying healthy.  How exactly is Daniels better?

  I don't think he's really a better defender at this point in time. He may space the floor but his 3 point shooting seems to be in decline. He is healthier, though.

He's nothing like he was, but he's still a pretty good man-to-man and team defender.  Marquis is only a mediocre defender in my opinion.  And when you consider them both guarding the SF position, Posey definitely has the edge.

I agree his game is in decline, but I truly don't believe we'd see the same Posey we saw in NO if he came back here.

  No, we'd see a slightly less athletic Posey than we saw in NO, though hopefully more motivated. Plus, I know a lot of people here miss seeing those pregame hugs he gave out.

[jdub1660]

Posey is getting traded to a non playoff team. He signed with NO b/c they were a contender at the time, and were willing to give him that "just won a ring so over pay me please" contract.

Now, lets go ahead and assume he either gets waived(since Indy is nowhere near the salary cap) or he gets bought out. Then he will pull a Shaq and come back here to finish his career on a 2 year vet min contract.

There's nothing wrong with him being signed as insurance or as Pierce backup 10 minutes per game. Harangody can't do it, Quis requires shooters to be on the floor at the same time, and Wafer is still a question mark. Posey would be perfect.

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sounds good...love it

but not too sure about the rush and baby comparison?

lets forget posey for a moment, would you guys trade for rush with baby?

Had to do a little hw on Rush since we don't see many Pacers games in Bangor, Maine   A 6'6" guard is never a bad thing, but what about his defense?  Can he play the 3?

When Perk comes back, we have 5 legit PF-C guys.  I would trade Baby for a need in a heartbeat.

We only have 2 legit NBA PFs -- Garnett and Baby. O'Neal is strictly a C. The other O'Neal is strictly a C. Perk is strictly a C. Harangody has never played in the NBA.

Baby IS a need. He's a key rotation player who plays up in big games.

I am not for trading BBD, but Jermaine O'Neal can absolutely play PF... he has done it for a number of years. He, like Duncan, is just big enough to play C for a team and will if he is asked to. Why would he not be able to play PF?


And forget Posey.  He is not going to be bought out and he has a terrible contract.  He is a shell of his former self.  I hope he enjoyed his pay day, but his years in Green are past.

When has JO ever played PF? For what team, and against which player? The guy is a true C. That's the position he plays.