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Who out there could best the best SF backup and gettable  for us?

Tayshaun Prince
8 (21.1%)
Andres Nocioni
2 (5.3%)
Shane Battier
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Trevor Ariza
10 (26.3%)
Eduardo Najera
0 (0%)
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Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2010, 09:43:08 AM »

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How about Walter Herrmann? Played well with Detroit. Long pesky SF that can hit 3's very well. No, he wouldn't be a good One on ONe defender against LeBron, but he'd be long enough to slow him down and allow the help defender to get their and cause a turnover
Yes, I'd like Walter Herrmann.  Never thought about him. 

Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2010, 09:55:31 AM »

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How about Walter Herrmann? Played well with Detroit. Long pesky SF that can hit 3's very well. No, he wouldn't be a good One on ONe defender against LeBron, but he'd be long enough to slow him down and allow the help defender to get their and cause a turnover
Yes, I'd like Walter Herrmann.  Never thought about him. 

I believe (but am not 100% certain) that he's under contract overseas.

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Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2010, 10:13:00 AM »

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What if you trade BBD who is in the last year of his contract and probally won't resign with his team to NewYork with a first and second rounder. In return get Anthony Randolph and Bill walker in return.

Bill has somewhat proved yhim self to be able to play long minutes and score in New York.

The real prize though is Randolph. He is 21 years old and has potinal to become a major beast. He's 6-10 with a 7'3 wing span, can play both forward spots, has crazy hoops, and knows how to score off the bench.

I hardly donut New York goes for this unless they ar thinking of Chirs paul being set there way. But if he can make it happen it needs to. Randolph is a Lamar Odam type and can cause match up problems coming off the becnh.

Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2010, 10:18:42 AM »

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What if you trade BBD who is in the last year of his contract and probally won't resign with his team to NewYork with a first and second rounder. In return get Anthony Randolph and Bill walker in return.

Bill has somewhat proved yhim self to be able to play long minutes and score in New York.

The real prize though is Randolph. He is 21 years old and has potinal to become a major beast. He's 6-10 with a 7'3 wing span, can play both forward spots, has crazy hoops, and knows how to score off the bench.

I hardly donut New York goes for this unless they ar thinking of Chirs paul being set there way. But if he can make it happen it needs to. Randolph is a Lamar Odam type and can cause match up problems coming off the becnh.

No possible way you get Randolph for BBD.  He is way too promising and is also a trade chip to possibly land CP3 or Melo for the Knicks.

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Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2010, 10:22:12 AM »

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What if you trade BBD who is in the last year of his contract and probally won't resign with his team to NewYork with a first and second rounder. In return get Anthony Randolph and Bill walker in return.

Bill has somewhat proved yhim self to be able to play long minutes and score in New York.

The real prize though is Randolph. He is 21 years old and has potinal to become a major beast. He's 6-10 with a 7'3 wing span, can play both forward spots, has crazy hoops, and knows how to score off the bench.

I hardly donut New York goes for this unless they ar thinking of Chirs paul being set there way. But if he can make it happen it needs to. Randolph is a Lamar Odam type and can cause match up problems coming off the becnh.

I'd be happy with just Billy.. Still can't believe we gave him up for Nate. I mean, I like Nate but the initial reports of that trade was that Billy was going to be left out.

I didn't see the logic of trading Walker for a player NY didn't want in the first place then and I still don't see it, especially seeing how Walker bloomed in New York.

But realistically, I think we're probably going to sign Jarvis Hayes. It's not really ideal but we're really running low on options right now.

Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2010, 10:30:50 AM »

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What if you trade BBD who is in the last year of his contract and probally won't resign with his team to NewYork with a first and second rounder. In return get Anthony Randolph and Bill walker in return.

Bill has somewhat proved yhim self to be able to play long minutes and score in New York.

The real prize though is Randolph. He is 21 years old and has potinal to become a major beast. He's 6-10 with a 7'3 wing span, can play both forward spots, has crazy hoops, and knows how to score off the bench.

I hardly donut New York goes for this unless they ar thinking of Chirs paul being set there way. But if he can make it happen it needs to. Randolph is a Lamar Odam type and can cause match up problems coming off the becnh.

I'd be happy with just Billy.. Still can't believe we gave him up for Nate. I mean, I like Nate but the initial reports of that trade was that Billy was going to be left out.

I didn't see the logic of trading Walker for a player NY didn't want in the first place then and I still don't see it, especially seeing how Walker bloomed in New York.

But realistically, I think we're probably going to sign Jarvis Hayes. It's not really ideal but we're really running low on options right now.

Yeah but Randolph give us an element we've never had off the bench. He also hleps us rebound and be come a little lease older. he will also be there in the start or the Rondo era.

Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2010, 11:09:41 AM »

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What if you trade BBD who is in the last year of his contract and probally won't resign with his team to NewYork with a first and second rounder. In return get Anthony Randolph and Bill walker in return.

Bill has somewhat proved yhim self to be able to play long minutes and score in New York.

The real prize though is Randolph. He is 21 years old and has potinal to become a major beast. He's 6-10 with a 7'3 wing span, can play both forward spots, has crazy hoops, and knows how to score off the bench.

I hardly donut New York goes for this unless they ar thinking of Chirs paul being set there way. But if he can make it happen it needs to. Randolph is a Lamar Odam type and can cause match up problems coming off the becnh.

I'd be happy with just Billy.. Still can't believe we gave him up for Nate. I mean, I like Nate but the initial reports of that trade was that Billy was going to be left out.

I didn't see the logic of trading Walker for a player NY didn't want in the first place then and I still don't see it, especially seeing how Walker bloomed in New York.

But realistically, I think we're probably going to sign Jarvis Hayes. It's not really ideal but we're really running low on options right now.

Yeah but Randolph give us an element we've never had off the bench. He also hleps us rebound and be come a little lease older. he will also be there in the start or the Rondo era.

let us hope that New York is that stupid. c'mooooon Isiah! This is why the Knicks re-hired you! to make stupid decision after stupid decision! :D



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Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2010, 11:31:18 AM »

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Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2010, 11:35:23 AM »

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Ariza.

We don't have the pieces to get him any more, now that Sheed is off the books.

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Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2010, 11:40:01 AM »

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What if you trade BBD who is in the last year of his contract and probally won't resign with his team to NewYork with a first and second rounder. In return get Anthony Randolph and Bill walker in return.

Bill has somewhat proved yhim self to be able to play long minutes and score in New York.

The real prize though is Randolph. He is 21 years old and has potinal to become a major beast. He's 6-10 with a 7'3 wing span, can play both forward spots, has crazy hoops, and knows how to score off the bench.

I hardly donut New York goes for this unless they ar thinking of Chirs paul being set there way. But if he can make it happen it needs to. Randolph is a Lamar Odam type and can cause match up problems coming off the becnh.

I'd be happy with just Billy.. Still can't believe we gave him up for Nate. I mean, I like Nate but the initial reports of that trade was that Billy was going to be left out.

I didn't see the logic of trading Walker for a player NY didn't want in the first place then and I still don't see it, especially seeing how Walker bloomed in New York.

But realistically, I think we're probably going to sign Jarvis Hayes. It's not really ideal but we're really running low on options right now.

Yeah but Randolph give us an element we've never had off the bench. He also hleps us rebound and be come a little lease older. he will also be there in the start or the Rondo era.

I get that but I don't see the Knicks parting with him any time soon. Walker either for that matter but I gotta dream a little.

Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2010, 11:50:50 AM »

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Post Sheed, I'd say our best options are: Jared Dudley, Carlos Delfino, Jamario Moon and Renaldo Balkman.

We need rebounding, defense and hopefully shooting behind Pierce.

Dudley and Delfino would be fantastic, but I don't think either will be traded.

Would you do Baby for Moon if we could sign a guy like James Singleton as an interim 4?  I would.

You do know that Moon stinks, right?  Or is this one of those trade Baby at any cost posts?
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Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2010, 12:19:15 PM »

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What if you trade BBD who is in the last year of his contract and probally won't resign with his team to NewYork with a first and second rounder. In return get Anthony Randolph and Bill walker in return.

Bill has somewhat proved yhim self to be able to play long minutes and score in New York.

The real prize though is Randolph. He is 21 years old and has potinal to become a major beast. He's 6-10 with a 7'3 wing span, can play both forward spots, has crazy hoops, and knows how to score off the bench.

I hardly donut New York goes for this unless they ar thinking of Chirs paul being set there way. But if he can make it happen it needs to. Randolph is a Lamar Odam type and can cause match up problems coming off the becnh.

I'd be happy with just Billy.. Still can't believe we gave him up for Nate. I mean, I like Nate but the initial reports of that trade was that Billy was going to be left out.

I didn't see the logic of trading Walker for a player NY didn't want in the first place then and I still don't see it, especially seeing how Walker bloomed in New York.

But realistically, I think we're probably going to sign Jarvis Hayes. It's not really ideal but we're really running low on options right now.

Well firstly, I don't think it's fair to the Knicks to translate "didn't want in the first place" to "didn't want fair value for him". Heck, what's "didn't want in the first place" supposed to mean? Nate's talented; he supposedly turned out to be a knucklehead as far as the Knicks were concerned. Says a lot that the Celtics wanted to re-sign him, maybe we tamed him. :D

Secondly, arguably Portland "doesn't want Rudy" either or don't think they can keep him for long....we're still having trouble getting him in Boston, aren't we?

ANYWAYS, if we can't trade BBD for Prince, I don't think any other SF is worth acquiring via trade. Definitely not Najera! That almost sounds like a "I can't have BBD off this team fast enough" trade proposal. 

As far as Herrmann:

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68637/20100811/herrmann_considering_return_to_nba/

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Argentinian forward Walter Herrmann is exploring a possible return to the NBA.

Herrmann is in talks with Spanish club Caja Laboral to terminate his contract after just one season.

If this is true, and if he can be gotten for the veteran minimum, then I don't see why not, although I admit I'm not sure who he is. <_<

No one else really wows me though, not Huges, not Hayes, Simmons, etc.


Re: Best backup option for Pierce?
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2010, 12:21:54 PM »

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Post Sheed, I'd say our best options are: Jared Dudley, Carlos Delfino, Jamario Moon and Renaldo Balkman.

We need rebounding, defense and hopefully shooting behind Pierce.
I like this list a lot better than Hayes and Simmons.  Balkman would kind of replace Tony Allen.  He would be an interesting addition.

Of course it's a better list; those guys are all under contract with other teams, and aren't available for the veteran minimum. 

In the case of Dudley and Delfino, it would probably cost BBD + a #1 for them.  Moon has less value, but salary wise, we'd probably still need to include Baby.

For Balkman, he's got three years left at less than $2 million per season, so Denver may be okay moving him for just expirings and a #2, since he doesn't get consistent time.  The question for Danny would be, does he want to commit three years of salary to a fringe role player?

I'd take Baby and a 1st to get Delfino? I don't think the trade makes sense for either team (the Bucks have far too many 4s), but from a value perspective a team would be lucky to get Davis alone for a player like Delfino, I'd say....
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