Per Sherrod Twitter...Sheed having second thoughts about retiring?

[jr_3421]

Sheed will probably come on board at mid-season

Agreed.

[celticpride07]

the celtics are not gonna pay 6 million dollars for someone to play half a season...the only way sheed plays half a season is if he gets traded and bought out and we resign him for the vet min..just like cleveland did with Ilgauskas last year unless the NBA has changed this rule?

[Andy Jick]

Trade Perk once his rehab appears to be solid.

Sorry, but I didn't like his "no comment" when Shaq was signed.  Any player should be happy to have help. and yet I think Perk seems threatened by it.  I don't like him at all and I hope Danny sends this scowl-faced-technical foul-waiting-to-happen idiot somewhere else.

I think Perk as well as a draft pick could garner a nice return and I'm all for running with our bigs "by committee" because we'll have them signed on for the next couple years.

Honestly, I see Perk as the odd-man out, and that doesn't bother me in the least...

  If Perk starts looking healthy, trading him because of his scowl, techs or "no comment" to the Shaq signing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, you're less likely to get by Miami or Orlando without his defense. In the long term, you're going to have to find a new center and a new pf instead of just a new pf, plus backups.

well, then putting those things aside, i'd trade him because he's maxed out his abilities and he's not going to get any better.  Shaq will be here for another year...Jermaine will be here for 2 more years.  If Sheed decides to not retire he also has another year on his original deal.  I'd go by those guys as a "committee" rather than perk who will DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, NOT better.

Put me in the minority who believes he might actually be the most tradeable asset on this team because whoever gets him will actually believe in the fool's gold type of game Perk provides. 

But I'd love to see Perk and Greg Kite play one-on-one - it would be a toss up, and that doesn't say much for Perk.

[hpantazo]

the celtics are not gonna pay 6 million dollars for someone to play half a season...the only way sheed plays half a season is if he gets traded and bought out and we resign him for the vet min..just like cleveland did with Ilgauskas last year unless the NBA has changed this rule?

no way that is happening either. Sheed likes the celtics, but he's not stupid. He's not going to give up 6 million plus to play half a season, not to mention the 6 million due to him for the following year as well. If he plays at all fo rus next year, he will take all the money that is owed to him in his contract. And as you said, there is no way the celtics pay him 6 million to play half a season.

[ManUp]

Sheed needs to retire I don't understand why people want him back. We're more than covered at the PF/C positions with 4 guys who are better than him at those positions, not including Perk. He left everything on the floor in game 5 and was pretty clear it wasn't always a matter of effort with him. Certain things Sheed can't/couldn't do.

[Greenback]

Bring Sheed back.  The last two years in the playoffs the Celtics didn't have enough bigs!

Please no more Rondo not guarding the opposing team's point guard because he is trying to get rebounds.  That is ridiculous.

Trade Baby and/or Perk for a wing stronger than Daniels and you should be all set.

[BballTim]

Trade Perk once his rehab appears to be solid.

Sorry, but I didn't like his "no comment" when Shaq was signed.  Any player should be happy to have help. and yet I think Perk seems threatened by it.  I don't like him at all and I hope Danny sends this scowl-faced-technical foul-waiting-to-happen idiot somewhere else.

I think Perk as well as a draft pick could garner a nice return and I'm all for running with our bigs "by committee" because we'll have them signed on for the next couple years.

Honestly, I see Perk as the odd-man out, and that doesn't bother me in the least...

  If Perk starts looking healthy, trading him because of his scowl, techs or "no comment" to the Shaq signing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, you're less likely to get by Miami or Orlando without his defense. In the long term, you're going to have to find a new center and a new pf instead of just a new pf, plus backups.

well, then putting those things aside, i'd trade him because he's maxed out his abilities and he's not going to get any better.  Shaq will be here for another year...Jermaine will be here for 2 more years.  If Sheed decides to not retire he also has another year on his original deal.  I'd go by those guys as a "committee" rather than perk who will DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, NOT better.

Put me in the minority who believes he might actually be the most tradeable asset on this team because whoever gets him will actually believe in the fool's gold type of game Perk provides. 

But I'd love to see Perk and Greg Kite play one-on-one - it would be a toss up, and that doesn't say much for Perk.

  Would you have traded Bird in 85 because he'd maxed out his abilities and wasn't going to get any better? That's silly, Perk right now is good enough to play a large (albeit complementary) role on a title contending team. And he probably wouldn't DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, but his play would demand it. You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's much better than Shaq, or that we're as likely to win a title if Perk isn't healthy.

  And he's not our most tradeable asset, Rondo is. But Perk would be very easy to trade if healthy. I'm pretty sure that whoever traded for Perk would know what he was getting. Not fools gold, but someone that's much more valuable than the 38 year old center that nobody wanted for more than the min and many teams didn't even want *for* the min.

[hpantazo]

Trade Perk once his rehab appears to be solid.

Sorry, but I didn't like his "no comment" when Shaq was signed.  Any player should be happy to have help. and yet I think Perk seems threatened by it.  I don't like him at all and I hope Danny sends this scowl-faced-technical foul-waiting-to-happen idiot somewhere else.

I think Perk as well as a draft pick could garner a nice return and I'm all for running with our bigs "by committee" because we'll have them signed on for the next couple years.

Honestly, I see Perk as the odd-man out, and that doesn't bother me in the least...

  If Perk starts looking healthy, trading him because of his scowl, techs or "no comment" to the Shaq signing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, you're less likely to get by Miami or Orlando without his defense. In the long term, you're going to have to find a new center and a new pf instead of just a new pf, plus backups.

well, then putting those things aside, i'd trade him because he's maxed out his abilities and he's not going to get any better.  Shaq will be here for another year...Jermaine will be here for 2 more years.  If Sheed decides to not retire he also has another year on his original deal.  I'd go by those guys as a "committee" rather than perk who will DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, NOT better.

Put me in the minority who believes he might actually be the most tradeable asset on this team because whoever gets him will actually believe in the fool's gold type of game Perk provides. 

But I'd love to see Perk and Greg Kite play one-on-one - it would be a toss up, and that doesn't say much for Perk.

  Would you have traded Bird in 85 because he'd maxed out his abilities and wasn't going to get any better? That's silly, Perk right now is good enough to play a large (albeit complementary) role on a title contending team. And he probably wouldn't DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, but his play would demand it. You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's much better than Shaq, or that we're as likely to win a title if Perk isn't healthy.

  And he's not our most tradeable asset, Rondo is. But Perk would be very easy to trade if healthy. I'm pretty sure that whoever traded for Perk would know what he was getting. Not fools gold, but someone that's much more valuable than the 38 year old center that nobody wanted for more than the min and many teams didn't even want *for* the min.

the way I see it, it's not wether Perk is better than Shaq or Jermaine, it's wether you think he's worth giving a large contract to after this year as a building block for the future. He will not help us this year, his injury was too severe, so for the short term run, he is not better than any of the other bigs. For the long term, I'm not sure if he's worth more than 8 million a year, at most, to us. Would you lock up 8-10 million a year of cap space for him to be our future star big man? I don't know. I would try to clear cap room and go for Dwight Howard. Same for Davis, he's not worth a good sized long term deal either.

[celticsclay]

Trade Perk once his rehab appears to be solid.

Sorry, but I didn't like his "no comment" when Shaq was signed.  Any player should be happy to have help. and yet I think Perk seems threatened by it.  I don't like him at all and I hope Danny sends this scowl-faced-technical foul-waiting-to-happen idiot somewhere else.

I think Perk as well as a draft pick could garner a nice return and I'm all for running with our bigs "by committee" because we'll have them signed on for the next couple years.

Honestly, I see Perk as the odd-man out, and that doesn't bother me in the least...

  If Perk starts looking healthy, trading him because of his scowl, techs or "no comment" to the Shaq signing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, you're less likely to get by Miami or Orlando without his defense. In the long term, you're going to have to find a new center and a new pf instead of just a new pf, plus backups.

well, then putting those things aside, i'd trade him because he's maxed out his abilities and he's not going to get any better.  Shaq will be here for another year...Jermaine will be here for 2 more years.  If Sheed decides to not retire he also has another year on his original deal.  I'd go by those guys as a "committee" rather than perk who will DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, NOT better.

Put me in the minority who believes he might actually be the most tradeable asset on this team because whoever gets him will actually believe in the fool's gold type of game Perk provides. 

But I'd love to see Perk and Greg Kite play one-on-one - it would be a toss up, and that doesn't say much for Perk.

  Would you have traded Bird in 85 because he'd maxed out his abilities and wasn't going to get any better? That's silly, Perk right now is good enough to play a large (albeit complementary) role on a title contending team. And he probably wouldn't DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, but his play would demand it. You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's much better than Shaq, or that we're as likely to win a title if Perk isn't healthy.

  And he's not our most tradeable asset, Rondo is. But Perk would be very easy to trade if healthy. I'm pretty sure that whoever traded for Perk would know what he was getting. Not fools gold, but someone that's much more valuable than the 38 year old center that nobody wanted for more than the min and many teams didn't even want *for* the min.

the way I see it, it's not wether Perk is better than Shaq or Jermaine, it's wether you think he's worth giving a large contract to after this year as a building block for the future. He will not help us this year, his injury was too severe, so for the short term run, he is not better than any of the other bigs. For the long term, I'm not sure if he's worth more than 8 million a year, at most, to us. Would you lock up 8-10 million a year of cap space for him to be our future star big man? I don't know. I would try to clear cap room and go for Dwight Howard. Same for Davis, he's not worth a good sized long term deal either.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I like old sayings. The reason I say that is cause with Perkins we know what we are getting (assuming he at least returns to form a little bit from this injury towards end of season). We know he is a hard worker, good defensive presence, gets along with rondo and pierce etc. I think we saw this past off season that completely clearing the deck to land free agents is a giant hit or miss. The hit was obviously the heat. The misses were the knicks, nets and Clippers. Two years from now if we have a massive amount of cap space but only rondo and a really old pierce under contract, do we know if we are that desirable a landing spot for players? Before our recent success we had a really hard time landing free agents. I think a team with a solid starting NBA center, Rondo and Pierce chasing some free agents is going to be more appealing then swinging for the fences and ending up with nothing.

[BballTim]

Trade Perk once his rehab appears to be solid.

Sorry, but I didn't like his "no comment" when Shaq was signed.  Any player should be happy to have help. and yet I think Perk seems threatened by it.  I don't like him at all and I hope Danny sends this scowl-faced-technical foul-waiting-to-happen idiot somewhere else.

I think Perk as well as a draft pick could garner a nice return and I'm all for running with our bigs "by committee" because we'll have them signed on for the next couple years.

Honestly, I see Perk as the odd-man out, and that doesn't bother me in the least...

  If Perk starts looking healthy, trading him because of his scowl, techs or "no comment" to the Shaq signing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, you're less likely to get by Miami or Orlando without his defense. In the long term, you're going to have to find a new center and a new pf instead of just a new pf, plus backups.

well, then putting those things aside, i'd trade him because he's maxed out his abilities and he's not going to get any better.  Shaq will be here for another year...Jermaine will be here for 2 more years.  If Sheed decides to not retire he also has another year on his original deal.  I'd go by those guys as a "committee" rather than perk who will DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, NOT better.

Put me in the minority who believes he might actually be the most tradeable asset on this team because whoever gets him will actually believe in the fool's gold type of game Perk provides. 

But I'd love to see Perk and Greg Kite play one-on-one - it would be a toss up, and that doesn't say much for Perk.

  Would you have traded Bird in 85 because he'd maxed out his abilities and wasn't going to get any better? That's silly, Perk right now is good enough to play a large (albeit complementary) role on a title contending team. And he probably wouldn't DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, but his play would demand it. You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's much better than Shaq, or that we're as likely to win a title if Perk isn't healthy.

  And he's not our most tradeable asset, Rondo is. But Perk would be very easy to trade if healthy. I'm pretty sure that whoever traded for Perk would know what he was getting. Not fools gold, but someone that's much more valuable than the 38 year old center that nobody wanted for more than the min and many teams didn't even want *for* the min.

the way I see it, it's not wether Perk is better than Shaq or Jermaine, it's wether you think he's worth giving a large contract to after this year as a building block for the future. He will not help us this year, his injury was too severe, so for the short term run, he is not better than any of the other bigs. For the long term, I'm not sure if he's worth more than 8 million a year, at most, to us. Would you lock up 8-10 million a year of cap space for him to be our future star big man? I don't know. I would try to clear cap room and go for Dwight Howard. Same for Davis, he's not worth a good sized long term deal either.

  First of all nobody knows what Perk is going to ask for, or how his lack of health this year would affect that. Secondly, all reports from the Celts have him coming back early in 2011, so it's not a given that his injury is tto severe to help us this year. Lastly, he's not a building block, but he's a starting caliber big man. If he stays, we need to find a new pf. If he goes, we need to get a new center and a new pf (as well as backups) and adding 2 starting caliber big men is no small feat.

[wahz]

I agree, Roy.

Someone from the front office needs to make a call and tell Sheed to stay retired.

If Sheed decides he wants to play, there is nothing anyone can do about it, and his contract is then virtually untradeable. I think one reason that the vets like Jermaine and Shaq are asking him to return is that the vets have a like minded mentality to sacrifice and win now at all costs, while the younger guys like tony allen and Davis want playing time, shots, and money.

He can be released, and he might have to be. There simply are not enough minutes to go around inside with him on the roster, without hurting the entire team.

Bottom line: He's a third arm as this roster is configured. Danny needs to move that conract before the season, even if it's for a trade exception.

Serious question: Does anyone think KG can play limited minutes at the three if we make no more moves and Sheed comes back? I have wondered for years if he play at the three against certain players(LeRoid) and now with us being so big playing him there, if he can do it, makes some sense in game where we are playing half court ball.

As KG seemed to recover last year he was guarding the perimeter better. If he was on LeBron for example, he can use his length near the bucket and, and he is on the floor at all times with Shaq/Perk, JO/Sheed/Baby behind him

Playoff rotation then looks more this:

Perk(18), Shaq(16), Sheed/JO(14)
KG(18), Baby(18), Sheed/JO(12)
PP(30), Marquis(, KG (10)
Ray(34), Marquis/Von Wafer(10) PP 4
Rajon(38) Nate(10)

[Roy Hobbs]

Serious question: Does anyone think KG can play limited minutes at the three if we make no more moves and Sheed comes back?

I don't.  KG has lost a lot of mobility over the years.  In recent years, he's struggled covering mobile power forwards like Rashard Lewis (although he shut him down in this year's playoffs).  I think he'd struggle even more against an athletic freak like Lebron.

Moreso than my opinion, I don't think the coaching staff sees KG as a small forward.  If they did, KG would have gotten minutes there sometime over the last three seasons.

[Andy Jick]

Trade Perk once his rehab appears to be solid.

Sorry, but I didn't like his "no comment" when Shaq was signed.  Any player should be happy to have help. and yet I think Perk seems threatened by it.  I don't like him at all and I hope Danny sends this scowl-faced-technical foul-waiting-to-happen idiot somewhere else.

I think Perk as well as a draft pick could garner a nice return and I'm all for running with our bigs "by committee" because we'll have them signed on for the next couple years.

Honestly, I see Perk as the odd-man out, and that doesn't bother me in the least...

  If Perk starts looking healthy, trading him because of his scowl, techs or "no comment" to the Shaq signing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, you're less likely to get by Miami or Orlando without his defense. In the long term, you're going to have to find a new center and a new pf instead of just a new pf, plus backups.

well, then putting those things aside, i'd trade him because he's maxed out his abilities and he's not going to get any better.  Shaq will be here for another year...Jermaine will be here for 2 more years.  If Sheed decides to not retire he also has another year on his original deal.  I'd go by those guys as a "committee" rather than perk who will DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, NOT better.

Put me in the minority who believes he might actually be the most tradeable asset on this team because whoever gets him will actually believe in the fool's gold type of game Perk provides. 

But I'd love to see Perk and Greg Kite play one-on-one - it would be a toss up, and that doesn't say much for Perk.

  Would you have traded Bird in 85 because he'd maxed out his abilities and wasn't going to get any better? That's silly, Perk right now is good enough to play a large (albeit complementary) role on a title contending team. And he probably wouldn't DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, but his play would demand it. You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's much better than Shaq, or that we're as likely to win a title if Perk isn't healthy.

  And he's not our most tradeable asset, Rondo is. But Perk would be very easy to trade if healthy. I'm pretty sure that whoever traded for Perk would know what he was getting. Not fools gold, but someone that's much more valuable than the 38 year old center that nobody wanted for more than the min and many teams didn't even want *for* the min.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Bringing Larry freakin' Bird into this equation???  I about spewed my drink on my computer screen.

And if you trade Rondo, who replaces him?  You want to roll with Nate?  Bradley?

Perk will NOT be missed this upcoming season, and he's not worth the money he will most likely demand...  Larry Bird, with one arm & leg cut off minus a testicle, is still better than Perk any day of the week... 

[hpantazo]

Trade Perk once his rehab appears to be solid.

Sorry, but I didn't like his "no comment" when Shaq was signed.  Any player should be happy to have help. and yet I think Perk seems threatened by it.  I don't like him at all and I hope Danny sends this scowl-faced-technical foul-waiting-to-happen idiot somewhere else.

I think Perk as well as a draft pick could garner a nice return and I'm all for running with our bigs "by committee" because we'll have them signed on for the next couple years.

Honestly, I see Perk as the odd-man out, and that doesn't bother me in the least...

  If Perk starts looking healthy, trading him because of his scowl, techs or "no comment" to the Shaq signing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, you're less likely to get by Miami or Orlando without his defense. In the long term, you're going to have to find a new center and a new pf instead of just a new pf, plus backups.

well, then putting those things aside, i'd trade him because he's maxed out his abilities and he's not going to get any better.  Shaq will be here for another year...Jermaine will be here for 2 more years.  If Sheed decides to not retire he also has another year on his original deal.  I'd go by those guys as a "committee" rather than perk who will DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, NOT better.

Put me in the minority who believes he might actually be the most tradeable asset on this team because whoever gets him will actually believe in the fool's gold type of game Perk provides. 

But I'd love to see Perk and Greg Kite play one-on-one - it would be a toss up, and that doesn't say much for Perk.

  Would you have traded Bird in 85 because he'd maxed out his abilities and wasn't going to get any better? That's silly, Perk right now is good enough to play a large (albeit complementary) role on a title contending team. And he probably wouldn't DEMAND minutes because of his being younger, but his play would demand it. You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's much better than Shaq, or that we're as likely to win a title if Perk isn't healthy.

  And he's not our most tradeable asset, Rondo is. But Perk would be very easy to trade if healthy. I'm pretty sure that whoever traded for Perk would know what he was getting. Not fools gold, but someone that's much more valuable than the 38 year old center that nobody wanted for more than the min and many teams didn't even want *for* the min.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Bringing Larry freakin' Bird into this equation???  I about spewed my drink on my computer screen.

And if you trade Rondo, who replaces him?  You want to roll with Nate?  Bradley?

Perk will NOT be missed this upcoming season, and he's not worth the money he will most likely demand...  Larry Bird, with one arm & leg cut off minus a testicle, is still better than Perk any day of the week... 

LOL!!!! TP for you! Well put. On a side note, Nene has done ok minus a testicle.

[mainevent]

Best thing about this whole conversation is that NOW we have options at the big positions! This is what we have longed for since our Championship season. Another great thing is that Erden gets to LEARN how to play in the NBA, just by practicing against these guys daily. If he has it in him, this group will DEFINITELY bring it out of him!