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Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2010, 11:20:13 AM »

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No Hughes, please.  How many guys 6'5" and under do we need?

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Re: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2010, 11:23:23 AM »

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I figured Jordan will try to cut Dampier and then re-sign him at a more reasonable level of contract, like say around $3-4 million per year. That would mean their starters would be Augustin, Jackson, Wallace, Thomas and Dampier.

Boris Diaw suddenly becomes a vastly overpaid bench player especially given the fact that Wallace and Jackson play just about every single minute of the small forward position on the team. If Charlotte was going to cut salary, Diaw, Diop, Carroll and Najera would be the guys they would want to unload. Problem is Carroll, Diop and Najera are just god-awful players and no one is going to waste a fat salary dumping contract or trade exception on those guys unless the Bobcats are willing to move next year's 1st rounder as well, which they won't.

So Diaw has to be the guy they move because he's the only one with any type of value. Diaw over the last 3 years has hit the three ball at a very nice 36.7% clip. He is a plus defender at the 3 and 4 spots. He is a an alright rebounder for his size and a decent free throw shooter. He would make a perfect glue guy, defensive stopper specialist at the SF position for this team's second unit. He could also be had by simply trading Wallace's retiring contract along with Gaffney and LaFayette's non-guaranteed contracts making it a $9 million savings for Charlotte.

I love this idea.

Defensive stopper at the 3? Really?
I happen to think he would be a very good defensive SF. He's no Gerald Wallace but he is a good defensive player.

You may indeed know his game better than i do, but to me he's a PF. He's fat. Can't see a fat guy defending Lebron or Kobe or Pierce or Gay, etc.
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Re: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2010, 11:28:18 AM »

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I figured Jordan will try to cut Dampier and then re-sign him at a more reasonable level of contract, like say around $3-4 million per year. That would mean their starters would be Augustin, Jackson, Wallace, Thomas and Dampier.

Boris Diaw suddenly becomes a vastly overpaid bench player especially given the fact that Wallace and Jackson play just about every single minute of the small forward position on the team. If Charlotte was going to cut salary, Diaw, Diop, Carroll and Najera would be the guys they would want to unload. Problem is Carroll, Diop and Najera are just god-awful players and no one is going to waste a fat salary dumping contract or trade exception on those guys unless the Bobcats are willing to move next year's 1st rounder as well, which they won't.

So Diaw has to be the guy they move because he's the only one with any type of value. Diaw over the last 3 years has hit the three ball at a very nice 36.7% clip. He is a plus defender at the 3 and 4 spots. He is a an alright rebounder for his size and a decent free throw shooter. He would make a perfect glue guy, defensive stopper specialist at the SF position for this team's second unit. He could also be had by simply trading Wallace's retiring contract along with Gaffney and LaFayette's non-guaranteed contracts making it a $9 million savings for Charlotte.

I love this idea.

Diaw has got good size, is a good passer and is pretty durable, which might be pretty important given the age and injury concerns of this team, but he's like a thicker, less talented version of Shawn Marion.  I'm not sure how productive that kind of guy can be coming off the bench.

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Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2010, 11:42:56 AM »

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Diaw is decent defensively but I love his passing.

Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2010, 11:50:11 AM »

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Hughes is meh.  Diaw could be a good power 3/4 coming off the bench to guard bigger small forwards.  He's also a good passer for the position.  Pretty good backup piece imo.  He is NOT a 2/3 though.  But isn't that why we resigned Daniels?

This trade works but I really don't know if we want to take on Diaw's fat 9M salary even for 1 year.

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Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2010, 12:04:51 PM »

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Hughes heck no...How about Shane Battier

Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2010, 12:08:40 PM »

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Why would we have to sign-and-trade for Hughes?  He's only worth the minimum.
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Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2010, 12:22:51 PM »

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No thanks to Hughes, would love Battier in a trade, if not maybe the answer to the problem was here before... Will Solomon anyone?

Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2010, 12:29:57 PM »

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Hughes really sucks. I think it's worth pointing that out. He played 1 tremendous year in Washington. He gets signed by Cleveland (or something) and *poof*. His career vanishes. Just like the Mark Blount's and Jerome James' of this league.



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Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2010, 12:35:16 PM »

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No Hughes, please.  How many guys 6'5" and under do we need?

yep. No more SGs...Regardless of what we all think of Hughes as a player, we simply do not need another 2-guard....

Battier on the other hand....

Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2010, 12:58:07 PM »

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Makes no sense with Daniels.  And just in case someone brings up injuries this is in relation to Hughes who makes Daniels seem Favrelike.

I have feeling some are going to be disappointed and that Boston's roster is set.  I prefer a roster spot to another wing.  They have enough.

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Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2010, 01:02:20 PM »

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Makes no sense with Daniels.  And just in case someone brings up injuries this is in relation to Hughes who makes Daniels seem Favrelike.

I have feeling some are going to be disappointed and that Boston's roster is set.  I prefer a roster spot to another wing.  They have enough.

Let's get the season started.

I agree.  See where they are with Harangody et al before adding in another guy.

Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2010, 01:10:08 PM »

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Makes no sense with Daniels.  And just in case someone brings up injuries this is in relation to Hughes who makes Daniels seem Favrelike.

I have feeling some are going to be disappointed and that Boston's roster is set.  I prefer a roster spot to another wing.  They have enough.

Let's get the season started.

I agree.  See where they are with Harangody et al before adding in another guy.

it be better if we had another wing, by training camp, we will see who earned the 2nd string backup sf spot...

Gody is undersized PF like Glen, but probably more mobile...

Marquis has a unique way of shooting

you can never have enough player, if we still need an upgrade we will see a trade sometime in the mid season

Re: Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2010, 01:17:39 PM »

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I'd much rather sign Jarvis Hayes for the vet min and be done with it. Then save Sheed's deal for the trade deadline to acquire a really good player.

Re: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2010, 01:26:07 PM »

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We're not getting Jackson, Charlotte isn't looking for a salary dump for him.
I just read on si.com today that Charlotte is looking to make a salary dump type of trade to save money, and not necessarily improve their team.  Maybe not Jackson, but that would be nice for us. 

Diaw, baby.  Just proposed it in the Sheed trade idea thread.  Sheed/Baby for Diaw makes a ton of sense for both sides.  Diaw's like a souped-up Marquis Daniels from his Dallas days.  Exploits mismatches for his points or sets up his teammates as a point forward; guards anyone on the floor. 
If Charlotte is looking for a salary dump, then Diaw for Sheed+Gaffney+Lafayette works. Sheed retires, then waive the non-guaranteed contracts of G & L and save $9 million.

The C's get a defensive SF with size who is still on the right side of 30. Diaw isn't much offensively, but he can run in transition, defend LeBron, Wade and Kobe pretty well and is the sort of veteran that Doc likes. Diaw's contract is high, but short (2 years both at $9 mill), so that might not displease Danny too much.

I'd much rather spend Sheed, G&L on Diaw than Hugues.