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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2010, 07:45:11 PM »

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Isn't there tons of other teams trying to sign scal...? Maybe international teams.....Has to be, with all his, "intangible" skills.the kind no one sees, but you know are there...! Too good for even stats..!  And how dumb was Denver, signing Sheldon.....come on....what do they think....does anyone on denver know anything about basketball.....didn't they see scal play....they prob tried to get him first...but scal held out for a better deal..oh that scal...so wiley..! Good luck to denver..getting a stupid old rebounder, with good post skills and a decent 10 foot shot..who the heck wants that...besides, we are the CELTICS, we can just sign some superstar to fix things right away..instantly..any minute now......Scal can take TA's role...he can cover anyone...!

Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2010, 08:06:03 PM »

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Scal takes a lot of crap on this board and elsewhere, and it is not justified.

He is by no means a stellar player or freakish athlete, but he has strong fundamentals and he is conditioned enough to run the floor without looking like he is going to keel over.

He may not always make his shots, and he will get blown by when he's up against the better players, but put him on the floor  against other bench players and he holds his own (and then some).

Can you think of any player who sits out for weeks on end without seeing any playing time at all, and then answers the call to provide a few good mistake-free minutes of smart, adequate basketball under pressure?  I can't.

Off the court, in the practice gym, by all accounts he plays well enough and hard enough to help make practice time meaningful.

He is also a great influence on young kids new to the league who suddenly have more money than brains.  A guy like Scal can be a great mentor in how to play, how to live in the NBA, and not become a knucklehead.

I have no problem if there is a roster spot at the end of the bench and Scal gets it.  I also think he would be a great addition to the coaching staff if he is interested.

From a business standpoint, Danny can sit tight for now.  If he can work a trade and needs to make up salary to make numbers work, he can overpay Scal in a sign and trade.

In the long run, Scal can be a solution to a different problem.  As Tommy slows down and cuts back, Max can sit with Mike, Scal can sit with Grande, and Donnie can take a hike.

Now that's a win for everyone.
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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2010, 08:22:33 PM »

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I think part of the reason he's unsigned is because the C's don't know exactly how the roster is going to shape out. 

Right now they have

JO
KG
PP
RA
RR

Then

BBD
VW
MD
AB
NR
LH

That's 11.

Then you have in at least partially guaranteed money

Sheed
Gaffney
Erden
Lafayette

That's 15. 

Now we could cut the last 3, but even if we do that, who is to say we don't take back two for Sheed's contract, and then want to sign another player or two? 

I think Ainge is just hesitant to ink Scal now, and then have to cut him if a larger trade requires it.  It just wastes money.

However, if push comes to shove and we have open space in a few weeks, I think Danny will bring him back. 

Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2010, 08:51:12 PM »

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Greece looks good this time of the year...hasn't he taken enough free money from the Celtics?I like Scal as a person,as least the image i see from afar but im not onboard for bringing any players back just for sentimental reasons.This is a business and Danny should/has threated it that way,c'est la vie.

Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2010, 09:50:33 PM »

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Okay, I'll say this one more time...I do not have anything against scal the man..never met him....can't hate anyone i never met...(as long as they live within normal parameters). I just wouldn't want scal on my team. Also, i would expect everyone to be in shape, and always improving their game..for that kind of MONEY, playing a GAME. Scal made 3.5 mill for...5 years.....!!!

Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2010, 11:09:46 PM »

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Argh.. there's alot of people who have fun with Scal but i might be one of the very few who will allways stand by the fact that Scal holds way more value to a team than can be messured on the basketball court.

He might be better off getting a assistant coaching job with the team but if that cant happen then i would like to see him fill the very last roster spot on our team

do you honestly think Scal was friends with anyone onthe 2010 Celtics? no shot. absolutely no shot

I'd like to hear you explain a little deeper what you mean by that comment, because quite honestly the only thing that is even imaginable for you to be referring to is his skin color. A guy who is widely seen as a very nice guy, great teammate, hard worker, non-complainer, great community contributor doesn't seem like a guy who would have a hard time making friends. The only way that could be the case would be for all other members of the Celtics being the biggest pricks in the world. Some of them possibly are, but most are definitely good guys.

Why would you even throw something like that out? Very racist sounding comment that I am willing to bet you can't back up. That kind of comment has no place on this site IMO.

EJ i know where your comming from but its equaly wrong to imply that he's talking in racists terms without knowing just what he means by his comment or if can back it up.

Potapenko Boxout has been here since 2007, so i think he knows the ropes by now but i do agree.. if its just a gut feeling he has then its a rather distastefull comment but we all do make ill advised comments from time to time.



Not equally wrong to ask the guy to explain himself when we all know there is no other reasonable explanation. We can dance around it all day long, but it was a racist suggestion plain and simple. If he has a clarification that makes sense, then fine. However not responding after all this time is pretty clear. He was logged in for a long time after I posted my comment and so it was read and ignored. Ill advised comments are one thing. Racist ones another. I'm tired of all the flak that Scal gets because he's white. If he were a black player then he'd be called a nice role player. Instead he's villainized due to the way he looks. Not cool no matter how long you've been posting on here.

Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2010, 12:12:51 AM »

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Argh.. there's alot of people who have fun with Scal but i might be one of the very few who will allways stand by the fact that Scal holds way more value to a team than can be messured on the basketball court.

He might be better off getting a assistant coaching job with the team but if that cant happen then i would like to see him fill the very last roster spot on our team

do you honestly think Scal was friends with anyone onthe 2010 Celtics? no shot. absolutely no shot

I'd like to hear you explain a little deeper what you mean by that comment, because quite honestly the only thing that is even imaginable for you to be referring to is his skin color. A guy who is widely seen as a very nice guy, great teammate, hard worker, non-complainer, great community contributor doesn't seem like a guy who would have a hard time making friends. The only way that could be the case would be for all other members of the Celtics being the biggest pricks in the world. Some of them possibly are, but most are definitely good guys.

Why would you even throw something like that out? Very racist sounding comment that I am willing to bet you can't back up. That kind of comment has no place on this site IMO.

EJ i know where your comming from but its equaly wrong to imply that he's talking in racists terms without knowing just what he means by his comment or if can back it up.

Potapenko Boxout has been here since 2007, so i think he knows the ropes by now but i do agree.. if its just a gut feeling he has then its a rather distastefull comment but we all do make ill advised comments from time to time.



Not equally wrong to ask the guy to explain himself when we all know there is no other reasonable explanation. We can dance around it all day long, but it was a racist suggestion plain and simple. If he has a clarification that makes sense, then fine. However not responding after all this time is pretty clear. He was logged in for a long time after I posted my comment and so it was read and ignored. Ill advised comments are one thing. Racist ones another. I'm tired of all the flak that Scal gets because he's white. If he were a black player then he'd be called a nice role player. Instead he's villainized due to the way he looks. Not cool no matter how long you've been posting on here.

I have to agree that was really uncalled for. I dont see how you can justify saying tht.
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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2010, 12:33:02 AM »

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Argh.. there's alot of people who have fun with Scal but i might be one of the very few who will allways stand by the fact that Scal holds way more value to a team than can be messured on the basketball court.

He might be better off getting a assistant coaching job with the team but if that cant happen then i would like to see him fill the very last roster spot on our team

do you honestly think Scal was friends with anyone onthe 2010 Celtics? no shot. absolutely no shot

I'd like to hear you explain a little deeper what you mean by that comment, because quite honestly the only thing that is even imaginable for you to be referring to is his skin color. A guy who is widely seen as a very nice guy, great teammate, hard worker, non-complainer, great community contributor doesn't seem like a guy who would have a hard time making friends. The only way that could be the case would be for all other members of the Celtics being the biggest pricks in the world. Some of them possibly are, but most are definitely good guys.

Why would you even throw something like that out? Very racist sounding comment that I am willing to bet you can't back up. That kind of comment has no place on this site IMO.

EJ i know where your comming from but its equaly wrong to imply that he's talking in racists terms without knowing just what he means by his comment or if can back it up.

Potapenko Boxout has been here since 2007, so i think he knows the ropes by now but i do agree.. if its just a gut feeling he has then its a rather distastefull comment but we all do make ill advised comments from time to time.



Not equally wrong to ask the guy to explain himself when we all know there is no other reasonable explanation. We can dance around it all day long, but it was a racist suggestion plain and simple. If he has a clarification that makes sense, then fine. However not responding after all this time is pretty clear. He was logged in for a long time after I posted my comment and so it was read and ignored. Ill advised comments are one thing. Racist ones another. I'm tired of all the flak that Scal gets because he's white. If he were a black player then he'd be called a nice role player. Instead he's villainized due to the way he looks. Not cool no matter how long you've been posting on here.

I read it the same way as you did but i'll still stand by the fact that calling someone out on it without knowing it to be fact is equaly bad.

Allthough your logic surronding your assesment of his comment is sound, i think .. i dont know.. i just dont think its worth starting a racism debate on these boards.. the world has enough of those allready and its allways utterly pointless.
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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2010, 12:38:23 AM »

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MEANWHILE.. ON A COMPLETLY UNRELATED NOTE.. IN THE CASTLE OF DOOM!!!

That frontpage image of Scal.. he looks soooo silly with his mouth wide open, double chin and all but that just embodies what scal is to me, he's goofy and sort of a sideshow at times but he's a celtic to me and if he's not comming back i will truely miss him.. just wont be the same without him lurking around.
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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2010, 12:51:48 AM »

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Argh.. there's alot of people who have fun with Scal but i might be one of the very few who will allways stand by the fact that Scal holds way more value to a team than can be messured on the basketball court.

He might be better off getting a assistant coaching job with the team but if that cant happen then i would like to see him fill the very last roster spot on our team

do you honestly think Scal was friends with anyone onthe 2010 Celtics? no shot. absolutely no shot

I'd like to hear you explain a little deeper what you mean by that comment, because quite honestly the only thing that is even imaginable for you to be referring to is his skin color. A guy who is widely seen as a very nice guy, great teammate, hard worker, non-complainer, great community contributor doesn't seem like a guy who would have a hard time making friends. The only way that could be the case would be for all other members of the Celtics being the biggest pricks in the world. Some of them possibly are, but most are definitely good guys.

Why would you even throw something like that out? Very racist sounding comment that I am willing to bet you can't back up. That kind of comment has no place on this site IMO.

EJ i know where your comming from but its equaly wrong to imply that he's talking in racists terms without knowing just what he means by his comment or if can back it up.

Potapenko Boxout has been here since 2007, so i think he knows the ropes by now but i do agree.. if its just a gut feeling he has then its a rather distastefull comment but we all do make ill advised comments from time to time.



Not equally wrong to ask the guy to explain himself when we all know there is no other reasonable explanation. We can dance around it all day long, but it was a racist suggestion plain and simple. If he has a clarification that makes sense, then fine. However not responding after all this time is pretty clear. He was logged in for a long time after I posted my comment and so it was read and ignored. Ill advised comments are one thing. Racist ones another. I'm tired of all the flak that Scal gets because he's white. If he were a black player then he'd be called a nice role player. Instead he's villainized due to the way he looks. Not cool no matter how long you've been posting on here.

I read it the same way as you did but i'll still stand by the fact that calling someone out on it without knowing it to be fact is equaly bad.

Allthough your logic surronding your assesment of his comment is sound, i think .. i dont know.. i just dont think its worth starting a racism debate on these boards.. the world has enough of those allready and its allways utterly pointless.

maybe he has really bad BO
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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2010, 02:22:07 AM »

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Only on CelticsBlog can I read a thread asking "What about Scal?" while simultaneously reading another asking "Why is Glen Davis still on this team?"

It's a world gone mad... :-\
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Re: Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2010, 02:56:26 AM »

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Only on CelticsBlog can I read a thread asking "What about Scal?" while simultaneously reading another asking "Why is Glen Davis still on this team?"

It's a world gone mad... :-\

While I joined in December of '07, I spent a year away, and had never been around here for the off-season until this summer ... I have to say, this blog takes on a completely different personality, and one that comes close to making very little sense whatsoever, (at times). I assume it's a lot of younger bloggers with time to fill, (previously spent on course-work), but that's just a guess ... I really don't know.

Not saying it's worse or altered in any negative fashion, just very, very different than the regular season. If I had to put a label on the majority of banter that I've been observing since the playoffs ended, it would be, well ... bi-polar, (even manic, at times). I'll just add that it's been fascinating to observe the differences and alternate personalities that a sports blog takes on during the off-season, but I honestly can not WAIT until the green uniforms come off the hangers again. ;)
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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2010, 10:26:07 AM »

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Only on CelticsBlog can I read a thread asking "What about Scal?" while simultaneously reading another asking "Why is Glen Davis still on this team?"

It's a world gone mad... :-\


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Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2010, 10:30:32 AM »

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Argh.. there's alot of people who have fun with Scal but i might be one of the very few who will allways stand by the fact that Scal holds way more value to a team than can be messured on the basketball court.

He might be better off getting a assistant coaching job with the team but if that cant happen then i would like to see him fill the very last roster spot on our team

do you honestly think Scal was friends with anyone onthe 2010 Celtics? no shot. absolutely no shot

I'd like to hear you explain a little deeper what you mean by that comment, because quite honestly the only thing that is even imaginable for you to be referring to is his skin color. A guy who is widely seen as a very nice guy, great teammate, hard worker, non-complainer, great community contributor doesn't seem like a guy who would have a hard time making friends. The only way that could be the case would be for all other members of the Celtics being the biggest pricks in the world. Some of them possibly are, but most are definitely good guys.

Why would you even throw something like that out? Very racist sounding comment that I am willing to bet you can't back up. That kind of comment has no place on this site IMO.

EJ i know where your comming from but its equaly wrong to imply that he's talking in racists terms without knowing just what he means by his comment or if can back it up.

Potapenko Boxout has been here since 2007, so i think he knows the ropes by now but i do agree.. if its just a gut feeling he has then its a rather distastefull comment but we all do make ill advised comments from time to time.



Not equally wrong to ask the guy to explain himself when we all know there is no other reasonable explanation. We can dance around it all day long, but it was a racist suggestion plain and simple. If he has a clarification that makes sense, then fine. However not responding after all this time is pretty clear. He was logged in for a long time after I posted my comment and so it was read and ignored. Ill advised comments are one thing. Racist ones another. I'm tired of all the flak that Scal gets because he's white. If he were a black player then he'd be called a nice role player. Instead he's villainized due to the way he looks. Not cool no matter how long you've been posting on here.

I read it the same way as you did but i'll still stand by the fact that calling someone out on it without knowing it to be fact is equaly bad.

Allthough your logic surronding your assesment of his comment is sound, i think .. i dont know.. i just dont think its worth starting a racism debate on these boards.. the world has enough of those allready and its allways utterly pointless.

Probably true. Just really tired of comments against white people being okay when had it been the reverse people would go crazy… Probably better left alone.

Re: What about Scal?
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2010, 12:44:22 PM »

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I like Scal.  But I am not sure he has a place on this team anymore.

BTW, I think Perk looks like an all star next to Vitaly Potapenko.  I hated him as a player, mediocre rebounder, poor defender and had stone hands that could rarely catch the ball. No one ever boxed more and got less rebounds than Potapenko.