Love to hate the Lakers

[Mike-Dub]

Wow - such wanton, blatant LA dislike.....

I absolutely love it .

I found this on hoopshype right before we started our series with LA. Gives some good background on our rivalry with them:

http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/lazenby/2010/05/31/how-boston-has-made-hollywood-pay/

Enjoy!

GreenFaith I read the first few lines of that article and it was to depressing to continue on knowing what should have been.


WE HAVE TO SMASH ON THESE GUYS AND GET OUR REVENGE!!!!

[LakerFan2423]

[Edited.] The franchise has 16 titles the city doesn't matter. If the Celtics had to move would that mean those 17 other championships just ran away NO! . . .

P.S. Oklahoma City chose not to bring the banners to the city, but to keep it in Seattle. Also,that means the Minnesota Timberwolves have five championships because the LAKERS won it in the city no. Get your facts straight.  

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[Ohio Celtics Fan]

You guys are dumb. Plain ignorant. The franchise has 16 titles the city doesn't matter. If the Celtics had to move would that mean those 17 other championships just ran away NO! God, you guys are just haters.

P.S. Oklahoma City chose not to bring the banners to the city, but to keep it in Seattle. Also,that means the Minnesota Timberwolves have five championships because the LAKERS won it in the city no. Get your facts straight. 

First of all, your name calling will get you no where here, especially given your allegiance. But, I'll ignore that.

The city does matter. Period. If the Celtics for some reason moved to let's say... Knoxville, the Knoxville Celtics would not be 17 time NBA Champions. The defunct team, the Boston Celtics would be the 17 time NBA champions. The Timberwolves lay no claim to the 5 championships that the Minneapolis Lakers won. Those 5 belong to the defunct team the Minneapolis Lakers.

As you would say, "get your facts straight."

[Migman]

You guys are dumb. Plain ignorant......... God, you guys are just haters.  

Um..... not sure you understand where you are... what did you expect from "CELTICSBLOG" If you don't like Celtics fans thoughts then i'd suggest you don't troll here!

[GreenFaith1819]

Wow - such wanton, blatant LA dislike.....

I absolutely love it .

I found this on hoopshype right before we started our series with LA. Gives some good background on our rivalry with them:

http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/lazenby/2010/05/31/how-boston-has-made-hollywood-pay/

Enjoy!

GreenFaith I read the first few lines of that article and it was to depressing to continue on knowing what should have been.


WE HAVE TO SMASH ON THESE GUYS AND GET OUR REVENGE!!!!

Yeah - I know. My Bad. The article was written just before we began our series with LA a few months ago. I still thought that it gave an interesting history of our rivalry, though.

Don't worry - we'll get them this season. We'll be better and stronger.

And as for LakerFan2423 - Even in the worst case scenario - the count is still 17 to 16 Boston Celtics.

[Celtics4ever]

I hate them because of all the years of rivalry.   Actually despise might be word I would use rather than hate.  They are so cheesy and will bring any outside in to win, like Phil.  Bottom line is this they could not win until they hired a Celtic!

[perks-a-beast]

[Edited.] The franchise has 16 titles the city doesn't matter. If the Celtics had to move would that mean those 17 other championships just ran away NO! . . .

P.S. Oklahoma City chose not to bring the banners to the city, but to keep it in Seattle. Also,that means the Minnesota Timberwolves have five championships because the LAKERS won it in the city no. Get your facts straight.  

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You know you lead a pitiful existence when you can't even properly celebrate your home teams championship without gloating and trying to justify their "greatness" (ON THE INTERNET) to the opponents.


If you don't like the celtics then why are you reading our blog? Go post on a Lakers blog with all the other kobe fan boys and talk about how you'll never surpass the BOSTON celtics in terms of championships. In the best case scenario for you it's Lakers- 16. Celtics- 17 but if you ever want to come back down to reality then get off the internet and go celebrate your 11th championships while it lasts

[nba is the worst]

Only Celtics fans care about the "11, not 16" thing.

Nobody else gives the early-era, reserve clause titles much thought, you just can't reasonably compare titles won with only 8 wins (half of todays' 16 wins required), twice against teams with LOSING RECORDS (including 1960 over the Minny Lakers) as being worth the same as todays' championships.

The Celtics are unquestionably Kings of that era, when players couldn't move freely from team to team unless they wanted to take a year off without pay, and the champion drafted as early as 8th.

The Lakers are just as unquestionably kings of the post-reserve clause, post merger NBA.

Let's hope this season the Celtics can get back up 2-1 over the Lakers in recent history, and tie them 3-3 head to head in the modern era.

[bdm860]

You guys are dumb. Plain ignorant. The franchise has 16 titles the city doesn't matter. If the Celtics had to move would that mean those 17 other championships just ran away NO! God, you guys are just haters.

P.S. Oklahoma City chose not to bring the banners to the city, but to keep it in Seattle. Also,that means the Minnesota Timberwolves have five championships because the LAKERS won it in the city no. Get your facts straight. 

First of all, your name calling will get you no where here, especially given your allegiance. But, I'll ignore that.

The city does matter. Period. If the Celtics for some reason moved to let's say... Knoxville, the Knoxville Celtics would not be 17 time NBA Champions. The defunct team, the Boston Celtics would be the 17 time NBA champions. The Timberwolves lay no claim to the 5 championships that the Minneapolis Lakers won. Those 5 belong to the defunct team the Minneapolis Lakers.

As you would say, "get your facts straight."

I don't know, I'm with the Lakers having 16 championships.  And I guess I'm surprised that someone like you Ohio Celtics Fan is so pro city (not that I know you, just based on the name), I take it you live in Ohio, so if you don't live in the city of the team you're cheering for, is the city where the team is based really that relevant?

I live in CT, I have zero ties to Boston.  I actually cheer for the Yankees.  It's not the city I'm cheering for, it's the team.  I don't speak for other posters but wdleehi lives in CT and cheers for the Giants, Steve Weinman lives in New York and cheers for Missouri (I think, sorry if I'm wrong guys).  If the Celtics moved to Providence (or Chatham), I don't think Redz would stop cheering for them.  Do you think some of our international posters like Edgar, ACF, Celtics Maestro, Drucci, etc. and all our other foreign posters care what city the team plays in? (I don't speak for them, just wondering out loud).  Are most of our posters even living in the greater Boston area?  Do most of the Lakers fans even live in the greater LA area?

Go to any MLB game outside of Boston or NY.  If the Yankees or Red Sox are in town, chances are a good amount of the fans in attendance won't be cheering for the home team but cheering for the Yankees or Redsox.  All those fans in other cities cheering for the away team makes me think the city the team actually plays in is less important.

The Detroit Pistons actually play in Auburn Hills about 45 minutes outside of Detroit.  Lakers used to play in Inglewood, 30 minutes outside of LA.  In the NFL, the New York Jets and Giants don't even play in the state of New York, they play in New Jersey.  In MLB, where the heck do the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim even play (how does that even make sense?), what city are they associated with?

These are reasons why I think the city doesn't matter.

Now in case of the Thunder/Sonics and Browns/Ravens - those teams underwent complete changes/makeovers, changed the city, changed the name, changed the mascot, changed the colors, changed the culture, cut all ties to the previous identity; in those cases I don't think the history transfers over.  But when you keep some tie (like the name), I think it does.  I know people who only drink Coke, will never buy Pepsi products.  It's like if Warren Buffet bought Coca Cola just for their distribution, but changed the name, the logo, the design, the flavors, etc.  Ok it's not Coke anymore, he just wanted the distribution (that's like what happened with the Sonics/Thunder, the owners just wanted a franchise) and I wouldn't expect all the Coke fans to be fans of this new product.  But if Warren Buffet bought the company and just moved the headquarters from Atlanta to Nebraska, then it's still the same Coke, and the history is still there (like with the Raiders and Lakers, etc.) and I would expect all the pro-Coke people to still be fans of and buy Coke products.

[bdm860]

Good news for me as a Yankees fan I guess.  Here I thought I was sitting pretty with just 27 championships, but I just found out it's really 35, because its the city and not the franchise, so I get to add in 2 from the Mets, 1 from the Brooklyn Dodgers,  and 5 from the New York Giants.

And no need to be so glum Timberwolves fans, your team is 4th all time in number of championships now, since it's all about the city!  Things don't seem so bad now do they. 

[Rondo2287]

Good news for me as a Yankees fan I guess.  Here I thought I was sitting pretty with just 27 championships, but I just found out it's really 35, because its the city and not the franchise, so I get to add in 2 from the Mets, 1 from the Brooklyn Dodgers,  and 5 from the New York Giants.

And no need to be so glum Timberwolves fans, your team is 4th all time in number of championships now, since it's all about the city!  Things don't seem so bad now do they. 

Ok thats just foolish,  If you truley are a yankee fan you hate the mets.  I think it shouldnt be based on cities it should be based on current incarnation of a franchise, or if they left your city the past incarnation. 

The cleveland browns can celebrate their past championships and shouldnt celebrate the ravens championships, and should be rooting for the current incarnation of the cleveland browns to win. 

The Lakers shouldnt count the Minny Lakers championships, they should enjoy their past championships and root for the t-wolves. 

And if your a yankee fan you should enjoy the 27 championships and thats it.  And i promise that as a redsox fan i wont hang my Atlanta or (Boston) Braves, NL championship Pennants in my living room.

[celticmaestro]

I definitely care what city this team plays in. I actually follow all Boston teams and hope they do well. If the Celtics moved from Boston - actually it doesn't bare thinking about, so I won't finish that sentence.

You guys are dumb. Plain ignorant. The franchise has 16 titles the city doesn't matter. If the Celtics had to move would that mean those 17 other championships just ran away NO! God, you guys are just haters.

P.S. Oklahoma City chose not to bring the banners to the city, but to keep it in Seattle. Also,that means the Minnesota Timberwolves have five championships because the LAKERS won it in the city no. Get your facts straight. 

First of all, your name calling will get you no where here, especially given your allegiance. But, I'll ignore that.

The city does matter. Period. If the Celtics for some reason moved to let's say... Knoxville, the Knoxville Celtics would not be 17 time NBA Champions. The defunct team, the Boston Celtics would be the 17 time NBA champions. The Timberwolves lay no claim to the 5 championships that the Minneapolis Lakers won. Those 5 belong to the defunct team the Minneapolis Lakers.

As you would say, "get your facts straight."

I don't know, I'm with the Lakers having 16 championships.  And I guess I'm surprised that someone like you Ohio Celtics Fan is so pro city (not that I know you, just based on the name), I take it you live in Ohio, so if you don't live in the city of the team you're cheering for, is the city where the team is based really that relevant?

I live in CT, I have zero ties to Boston.  I actually cheer for the Yankees.  It's not the city I'm cheering for, it's the team.  I don't speak for other posters but wdleehi lives in CT and cheers for the Giants, Steve Weinman lives in New York and cheers for Missouri (I think, sorry if I'm wrong guys).  If the Celtics moved to Providence (or Chatham), I don't think Redz would stop cheering for them.  Do you think some of our international posters like Edgar, ACF, Celtics Maestro, Drucci, etc. and all our other foreign posters care what city the team plays in? (I don't speak for them, just wondering out loud).  Are most of our posters even living in the greater Boston area?  Do most of the Lakers fans even live in the greater LA area?

Go to any MLB game outside of Boston or NY.  If the Yankees or Red Sox are in town, chances are a good amount of the fans in attendance won't be cheering for the home team but cheering for the Yankees or Redsox.  All those fans in other cities cheering for the away team makes me think the city the team actually plays in is less important.

The Detroit Pistons actually play in Auburn Hills about 45 minutes outside of Detroit.  Lakers used to play in Inglewood, 30 minutes outside of LA.  In the NFL, the New York Jets and Giants don't even play in the state of New York, they play in New Jersey.  In MLB, where the heck do the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim even play (how does that even make sense?), what city are they associated with?

These are reasons why I think the city doesn't matter.

Now in case of the Thunder/Sonics and Browns/Ravens - those teams underwent complete changes/makeovers, changed the city, changed the name, changed the mascot, changed the colors, changed the culture, cut all ties to the previous identity; in those cases I don't think the history transfers over.  But when you keep some tie (like the name), I think it does.  I know people who only drink Coke, will never buy Pepsi products.  It's like if Warren Buffet bought Coca Cola just for their distribution, but changed the name, the logo, the design, the flavors, etc.  Ok it's not Coke anymore, he just wanted the distribution (that's like what happened with the Sonics/Thunder, the owners just wanted a franchise) and I wouldn't expect all the Coke fans to be fans of this new product.  But if Warren Buffet bought the company and just moved the headquarters from Atlanta to Nebraska, then it's still the same Coke, and the history is still there (like with the Raiders and Lakers, etc.) and I would expect all the pro-Coke people to still be fans of and buy Coke products.

[Witch-King]

After the Celtics won the Finals in 2008, everyone tried to make a huge fuss about Brian Scalabrine's infamous post-series press conference, which I for one just thought it was hilarious how well he handled those who were criticizing him for not playing a minute in the Finals. Scalabrine did see floor-time with the Celtics in even Game 7 of the Finals last season, so there is no reason why he should have been disrespected by the media like that.

There is no way you can compare a minor incident like that to the rioting and vandalism that took place in downtown LA once the [franchise that will not be named] won the finals in either 2008 or '09 and that is just indicative of how immature and foolish [franchise that will not be named]' fans are. I'm not talking about the over-pampered celebrity types; these rioting hoodlums are most likely just the average [franchise that will not be named] fan, I'm sure some of them didn't actually have tickets to see the game in Staples Center. Not only is something like that bad for the city of Los Angeles -- it also makes the NBA just plain look bad.

Celtics fans can always look at Red Auerbach's tradition of smoking a cigar ahead of time, because he had supreme confidence that his team was on pace to win, even well before the final buzzer sounded. You might call that cocky, however that's just the Celtics' tradition...

[RebusRankin]

Dang it, let's focus on what matters, hating the Lakers. I'm pretty sure they're responsible for the recent economic failures worldwide, the decline of many public schools, rising crime rates and the stupifying success of Justin Bieber.