C's interested in T-Mac?

[manl_lui]

I prefer having TMac than having Daniels...dont get me wrong, I like Marquis...he defended Lebron pretty well in the games we played...

but we need offensive and defensive I prefer TMac, not that I'm saying TMac is an excellent defender but he does win in the offensive end...

he is not done, he really didn't have much playing time to begin with...

If hes willing to come for the vet minimum then I am more than happy to have him here for 20-25 minutes a night behind Allen so Allen can have some rest...

if not, is a S/T possible for NY and Boston...

TMac can play the 1 2 and 3...he can shoot and rebound...(compare to Daniels)

now all we need to do is get one more big and i think we are all set for the season

[xmuscularghandix]

If Grant Hill is thriving right now after all his injuries, then TMac will be able to survive physically. I think we all know that Tracy isn’t done.

But what is going to determine his success is his mental ability to accept not being THE MAN.


Tracy pulled a Marbury and left Toronto because he wanted to be the head honcho.



TMac has made an estimated $160,000,000,
He averages 21, 6, and 4 for his career.
He averages 28, 7, and 6 in the playoffs
There was a point in time where he could be considered the best player in the game

BUT 

He’s never left the first round
His best days are behind him
And most people would agree that he’s on the outside looking in as far as the HOF goes.


It’s time for TMac to play a role, get past the first round, win a championship, and not let himself finish as a “what if"

[Bahku]

If Grant Hill is thriving right now after all his injuries, then TMac will be able to survive physically. I think we all know that Tracy isn’t done.

But what is going to determine his success is his mental ability to accept not being THE MAN.


Tracy pulled a Marbury and left Toronto because he wanted to be the head honcho.



TMac has made an estimated $160,000,000,
He averages 21, 6, and 4 for his career.
He averages 28, 7, and 6 in the playoffs
There was a point in time where he could be considered the best player in the game

BUT  

He’s never left the first round
His best days are behind him
And most people would agree that he’s on the outside looking in as far as the HOF goes.


It’s time for TMac to play a role, get past the first round, win a championship, and not let himself finish as a “what if"

Yeah (TP) ... my first thoughts about T-Mac were all negative ... just didn't want to get into dealing with the attitude, head-stuff, whatever. But he might actually thrive in this environment, where not so much is expected of him, and egos are not in the mix much. Surrounded by guys he respects and looks up to, and easing into being more of a role-player, he might find the discipline he needs to make more of his talents, and develop emotionally as well. I'm not writing the idea off anymore, (or Shaq, either ... still like that idea). Not crazy about Marquis hanging around.

[manl_lui]

If Grant Hill is thriving right now after all his injuries, then TMac will be able to survive physically. I think we all know that Tracy isn’t done.

But what is going to determine his success is his mental ability to accept not being THE MAN.


Tracy pulled a Marbury and left Toronto because he wanted to be the head honcho.



TMac has made an estimated $160,000,000,
He averages 21, 6, and 4 for his career.
He averages 28, 7, and 6 in the playoffs
There was a point in time where he could be considered the best player in the game

BUT  

He’s never left the first round
His best days are behind him
And most people would agree that he’s on the outside looking in as far as the HOF goes.


It’s time for TMac to play a role, get past the first round, win a championship, and not let himself finish as a “what if"

Yeah (TP) ... my first thoughts about T-Mac were all negative ... just didn't want to get into dealing with the attitude, head-stuff, whatever. But he might actually thrive in this environment, where not so much is expected of him, and egos are not in the mix much. Surrounded by guys he respects and looks up to, and easing into being more of a role-player, he might find the discipline he needs to make more of his talents, and develop emotionally as well. I'm not writing the idea off anymore, (or Shaq, either ... still like that idea). Not crazy about Marquis hanging around.

if hes able to accept his role of coming off the bench then i dont see a reason to not sign him, in my opinion hes worth more than the vet min, maybe a portion of the MLE, but since we used all of our MLE on JO we could decide something else for him

[xmuscularghandix]

If Grant Hill is thriving right now after all his injuries, then TMac will be able to survive physically. I think we all know that Tracy isn’t done.

But what is going to determine his success is his mental ability to accept not being THE MAN.


Tracy pulled a Marbury and left Toronto because he wanted to be the head honcho.



TMac has made an estimated $160,000,000,
He averages 21, 6, and 4 for his career.
He averages 28, 7, and 6 in the playoffs
There was a point in time where he could be considered the best player in the game

BUT  

He’s never left the first round
His best days are behind him
And most people would agree that he’s on the outside looking in as far as the HOF goes.


It’s time for TMac to play a role, get past the first round, win a championship, and not let himself finish as a “what if"

Yeah (TP) ... my first thoughts about T-Mac were all negative ... just didn't want to get into dealing with the attitude, head-stuff, whatever. But he might actually thrive in this environment, where not so much is expected of him, and egos are not in the mix much. Surrounded by guys he respects and looks up to, and easing into being more of a role-player, he might find the discipline he needs to make more of his talents, and develop emotionally as well. I'm not writing the idea off anymore, (or Shaq, either ... still like that idea). Not crazy about Marquis hanging around.

if hes able to accept his role of coming off the bench then i dont see a reason to not sign him, in my opinion hes worth more than the vet min, maybe a portion of the MLE, but since we used all of our MLE on JO we could decide something else for him

I’m not even a huge T-Mac fan, and i just pumped myself right up...

[xmuscularghandix]

If TMac could make some of these plays with the second unit Banner 18 is ours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxFM3uC7yZE

[Dybdal]

I think T-Mac is the ultimate prize that the Celtics could get in this offseason but i think they are hessitent for the same reason every other contender is.

They dont know just how big that mental block T-Mac has will effect him come playoff time.

He is unproven where it counts and thats most.. but its one of those risk/reward deals i think.

[Rashi]

If TMac could make some of these plays with the second unit Banner 18 is ours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxFM3uC7yZE

Tp for the vid. This is the reason why I feel he would be a great 6th man for us.

lol..this might sound silly...but on another board I was reading how fans of other teams don't want t-mac because he never got past the 1st round, and think he will bring bad luck to whichever team he goes to. If he does come to Boston...I hope all that stuff is not true.

[manl_lui]

If TMac could make some of these plays with the second unit Banner 18 is ours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxFM3uC7yZE

Tp for the vid. This is the reason why I feel he would be a great 6th man for us.

lol..this might sound silly...but on another board I was reading how fans of other teams don't want t-mac because he never got past the 1st round, and think he will bring bad luck to whichever team he goes to. If he does come to Boston...I hope all that stuff is not true.

as i said before, T-Mac could still play...the problem with the celtics is, we aren't getting any younger, we are an old team, but a team filled with all-stars in their early and mid 30s...so fatigue and injury will definitely be a factor as time goes on...

We have seen Ray Allen being haunted by fatigue in the 2nd round in the 2009 playoffs, KG being injured against Utah in the regular season cuz lack of big man (Mikki Moore was crap)

TMac is injury prone, but if Doc can monitor both TMac and Ray Allen, then I'm not worried about fatigue or chances of TMac being injured

and the fact that TMac played for Doc back in Orlando have an advantage, he already knows the system...

if they both play 20-25 or 30 minutes a night, and produce 14-15 points a night, thats good...

[Bahku]

I'm not down with all the "bad luck" talk about Tracy ... to me, it's health, health, health. I think T.A. has shown us that attitude can be turned around in the right environment, but only if good health and consistent lack of injury allows for it. I have a good feeling that T'Mac could thrive here, but he's got to get in better shape, and we'd have to roll the dice with the injury question, like we do with everyone else.

[Witch-King]

While it would certainly be great for us if T-Mac could somehow end up playing for the Celtics, what reason would he have to leave the Knicks, especially now that they have Amare Stoudamire?

I mean, Tracy McGrady isn't even that old so I doubt he'd want to go to a team where he would have to come off of the bench for people who aren't even younger than he is. Of course I'm talking about Ray and Paul, both of which happen to be NBA 3-point contest winners.

Maybe after next season if the New York Knicks are somehow able to sign Carmelo Anthony I could see Tracy McGrady be willing to defer to the bench, but even then chances are high that either of the two could just switch to SG.

A team like the Knicks could become a suprise playoff contender if they were somehow able to acquire either a Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony or both and then continue to add to their core of guys (I'm pretty sure Dirk just got re-signed so there's little chance of him being moved to New York).

I'm not sure if I could see McGrady willing to leave that situation, even if it meant a shot at another championship with the Celtics. The Eastern conference might still have a difficult time keeping pace with the West next season regardless of the fact that Stoudamire doesn't play there anymore.

[xmuscularghandix]

While it would certainly be great for us if T-Mac could somehow end up playing for the Celtics, what reason would he have to leave the Knicks, especially now that they have Amare Stoudamire?

I mean, Tracy McGrady isn't even that old so I doubt he'd want to go to a team where he would have to come off of the bench for people who aren't even younger than he is. Of course I'm talking about Ray and Paul, both of which happen to be NBA 3-point contest winners.

Maybe after next season if the New York Knicks are somehow able to sign Carmelo Anthony I could see Tracy McGrady be willing to defer to the bench, but even then chances are high that either of the two could just switch to SG.

A team like the Knicks could become a suprise playoff contender if they were somehow able to acquire either a Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony or both and then continue to add to their core of guys (I'm pretty sure Dirk just got re-signed so there's little chance of him being moved to New York).

I'm not sure if I could see McGrady willing to leave that situation, even if it meant a shot at another championship with the Celtics. The Eastern conference might still have a difficult time keeping pace with the West next season regardless of the fact that Stoudamire doesn't play there anymore.

Well if TMac goes to NY it is becuase he’s more interested in time playing time/ promoting himself over the team. In this case he proves that he doesn’t actually want to win a ring.

If he comes to us he’ll really be able to to the same thing that Ray, Paul, and Kevin did... get the full HOF package. Your legacy is individual dominance AND winning in the post season.

Or he can be Bernard King, and dominate for a team that really has no place outside of the second round. But at least you’ll have jersey sales T-Mac

[xmuscularghandix]

I know a player that once lead the league in scoring, and was an unbelievable talent who killed everybody, except his team sucked, and he never really went anywhere.

Then when he was 28 he had a serious injury and everyone counted him out.

He missed an entire season due to injury.

He signed with Celtics after a grueling rehab.

Flourished and showed off his talents, despite no longer being the centerpiece.

Won a ring.

The whole league noted his excellence, as he made all-star games.

And walked off in the sunset. (not to mention the HOF)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTZQfLEjsvQ

The best basketball player to ever come out of New York.

[Witch-King]

While it would certainly be great for us if T-Mac could somehow end up playing for the Celtics, what reason would he have to leave the Knicks, especially now that they have Amare Stoudamire?

I mean, Tracy McGrady isn't even that old so I doubt he'd want to go to a team where he would have to come off of the bench for people who aren't even younger than he is. Of course I'm talking about Ray and Paul, both of which happen to be NBA 3-point contest winners.

Maybe after next season if the New York Knicks are somehow able to sign Carmelo Anthony I could see Tracy McGrady be willing to defer to the bench, but even then chances are high that either of the two could just switch to SG.

A team like the Knicks could become a suprise playoff contender if they were somehow able to acquire either a Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony or both and then continue to add to their core of guys (I'm pretty sure Dirk just got re-signed so there's little chance of him being moved to New York).

I'm not sure if I could see McGrady willing to leave that situation, even if it meant a shot at another championship with the Celtics. The Eastern conference might still have a difficult time keeping pace with the West next season regardless of the fact that Stoudamire doesn't play there anymore.

Well if TMac goes to NY it is becuase he’s more interested in time playing time/ promoting himself over the team. In this case he proves that he doesn’t actually want to win a ring.

If he comes to us he’ll really be able to to the same thing that Ray, Paul, and Kevin did... get the full HOF package. Your legacy is individual dominance AND winning in the post season.

Or he can be Bernard King, and dominate for a team that really has no place outside of the second round. But at least you’ll have jersey sales T-Mac

The same thing could be said about Allen Iverson - he'd win a ring with the Celtics if he were just willing to come off of the bench.

Unfortunately we all know it isn't that easy, especially now that Miami has all but 'cloned' Boston's Big 3 formula for success. Even though our Big 3 might have better chemistry and more experience having won a championship, the 'Miami Heat 3' were a part of the USA team that won Olympic Gold, are younger, one of them has won a ring before and another has won league MVP twice in a row.

Even if we beat Miami in the playoffs in these next 3 seasons, we'd still have to worry about the Lakers. If the Lakers 3-peat over the East's double-Big-3's I'm thinking the NBA gets locked-out or something after this season... 

Anyways, enough about Kanye West (pronounced 'con-yay West'). What I'm trying to say is that Tracy McGrady might not be what this team needs to win it all. Or even if he is the X-factor in our squad's chances of winning next season that he may not even want to play for the Celtics at this point in his career.

[rickyfan3.0...]

Footey... has there ever been a 7 foot project that worked out? Ever? If a 7 footer has even the tiniest tiniest bit of potential teams will do everything humanly possible to cultivate his talent. If a 7 footer is on the scrap heap, it is for a reason.