Ainge on TA

[libermaniac]

And we'll be sorry that he's gone when we don't get anyone who can defend on his level.

Fortunately, Avery Bradley may be that guy.  He's 6-3 with a 6-7 wingspan to Tony Allen's 6-4.  That's not really a size difference.  I don't see Bradley covering Bron, but don't remember that TAdid a ton of that in the playoffs ... did he?  Anyway, Bradley's strength is his one on one defense ... and Tony Allen was a knucklehead on offense, so Bradley couldn't be much worse.  I'll be glad to see the kid get some minutes.

Avery Bradley will not be able to guard Lebron, will not be able to guard Kobe, and probably will not be able to guard Wade. He is an undersized 2-guard, big wingspan or not.

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.  And, yes, a guy of Bradley's stature can guard Kobe as effectively as a guy built like TA.  Kobe doesn't overpower anyone, he relies of speed and off balance shots.  A guy build like Bradley can certainly guard him.  If he does remains to be seen.

As for Wade, that might be tougher.  But, frankly, before Allen played well in the playoffs nobody around here would've missed him at all.  Ainge has plenty of time to find someone at the trade deadline to fill a role if Bradley cannot.  No big loss.

[xmuscularghandix]

He isn’t an offensive garbage man, he’s removed his jump shot because there was always a better option with this team. TA can force TOs and is a force on the break. He’s also a player that can lower his head and get to the line ALOT. I think Tony is going to show us some things once the leash is loosened a little.

[Big_Matt34]

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.

Actually, Doc Rivers told the media that TA did the best job on Lebron of anyone on the team in these playoffs. He also defended Bron quite a bit as he played 20 mpg that series, the most he played in any series.

He was the only guy who could keep Lebron from getting the the rim at will because of his footspeed on defense. Avery Bradley is 19 and 180 pounds, he is NOT going to be able to defend Kobe or Wade, come on now.

 As for TA in Memphis, if Mayo starts at pg i think TA starts at Sg, and averages about 12 a game with good defense.

[MBunge]

It could be a minutes thing, though as some already said, it's not like he's gonna see a ton more minutes behind Mayo and Gay. 

Even more concerning, apparently Tony leaving isn't part of Danny's master stroke.  Maybe he doesn't have anything lined up.  Not to say he won't line something up down the road, but the idea that he let Tony go because he had Josh Howard (or someone else lined up) doesn't seem to be the case. 

Yeah, If something doesn't go down this week with the Sheed contract, I'm abandoning the "something was lined up and its OK to loose Tony" idea.

I still think something will come of the sheed contract though. but it may be unrelated to letting Tony Walk. 

Whether it was planned or not, losing TA pretty much forces Ainge to get something with Sheed's contract.  If you brought everybody else back, swapped out JO'neal for Sheed and signed a couple a vet min guys, you could at least fool yourself that the Cs could contend for another title.  I don't think anybody will buy that if they lose TA and don't replace him with someone better.

Mike

[MBunge]

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.

Actually, Doc Rivers told the media that TA did the best job on Lebron of anyone on the team in these playoffs. He also defended Bron quite a bit as he played 20 mpg that series, the most he played in any series.

He was the only guy who could keep Lebron from getting the the rim at will because of his footspeed on defense. Avery Bradley is 19 and 180 pounds, he is NOT going to be able to defend Kobe or Wade, come on now.

 As for TA in Memphis, if Mayo starts at pg i think TA starts at Sg, and averages about 12 a game with good defense.

And Doc responds to TA's outstanding defense against LeBron by playing him significantly fewer minutes against both Orlando and LA.

Mike

[Big_Matt34]

And Doc responds to TA's outstanding defense against LeBron by playing him significantly fewer minutes against both Orlando and LA.Mike

Well i think that was mainly because of TA hurting his ankle in game 2 of the Magic series. He was really hobbled for the rest of that series.

Then in the Lakers series his mpg are skewered by only playing 5 minutes in game 7. It was over 16 a game for the first 6 games, but then Doc went all starters for game 7, which i can kinda understand.

[xmuscularghandix]

And we'll be sorry that he's gone when we don't get anyone who can defend on his level.

Fortunately, Avery Bradley may be that guy.  He's 6-3 with a 6-7 wingspan to Tony Allen's 6-4.  That's not really a size difference.  I don't see Bradley covering Bron, but don't remember that TAdid a ton of that in the playoffs ... did he?  Anyway, Bradley's strength is his one on one defense ... and Tony Allen was a knucklehead on offense, so Bradley couldn't be much worse.  I'll be glad to see the kid get some minutes.

Avery Bradley will not be able to guard Lebron, will not be able to guard Kobe, and probably will not be able to guard Wade. He is an undersized 2-guard, big wingspan or not.

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.  And, yes, a guy of Bradley's stature can guard Kobe as effectively as a guy built like TA.  Kobe doesn't overpower anyone, he relies of speed and off balance shots.  A guy build like Bradley can certainly guard him.  If he does remains to be seen.

As for Wade, that might be tougher.  But, frankly, before Allen played well in the playoffs nobody around here would've missed him at all.  Ainge has plenty of time to find someone at the trade deadline to fill a role if Bradley cannot.  No big loss.

Avery Bradley is considered by many to be the best perimeter defender in this draft class. He’s a guy who takes pride in being a lock down defender. I think he’s looking forward to try and slow these guys down.

AND Avery basically brings everything TA did plus a nice stroke from mid-range, and a decent shot from outside esspecially if it’s catch and shoot.

[Bankshot]

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.

Actually, Doc Rivers told the media that TA did the best job on Lebron of anyone on the team in these playoffs. He also defended Bron quite a bit as he played 20 mpg that series, the most he played in any series.

He was the only guy who could keep Lebron from getting the the rim at will because of his footspeed on defense. Avery Bradley is 19 and 180 pounds, he is NOT going to be able to defend Kobe or Wade, come on now.

 As for TA in Memphis, if Mayo starts at pg i think TA starts at Sg, and averages about 12 a game with good defense.

And Doc responds to TA's outstanding defense against LeBron by playing him significantly fewer minutes against both Orlando and LA.

Mike

Exactly!  I believe that's one of the reasons for the game 7 loss.  Not enough Tony and even Nate for offense.  Tony's not an offensive player, but he would force his way to the basket and draw fouls, all the while giving Ray a rest from guarding Kobe.  Nate for offense when the Celtics were in that offensive drought (he only played 4 minutes in game 7! ) Doc went back to his horrible coaching of the past in game 7 for some reason.

[xmuscularghandix]

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.

Actually, Doc Rivers told the media that TA did the best job on Lebron of anyone on the team in these playoffs. He also defended Bron quite a bit as he played 20 mpg that series, the most he played in any series.

He was the only guy who could keep Lebron from getting the the rim at will because of his footspeed on defense. Avery Bradley is 19 and 180 pounds, he is NOT going to be able to defend Kobe or Wade, come on now.

 As for TA in Memphis, if Mayo starts at pg i think TA starts at Sg, and averages about 12 a game with good defense.

And Doc responds to TA's outstanding defense against LeBron by playing him significantly fewer minutes against both Orlando and LA.

Mike

Exactly!  I believe that's one of the reasons for the game 7 loss.  Not enough Tony and even Nate for offense.  Tony's not an offensive player, but he would force his way to the basket and draw fouls, all the while giving Ray a rest from guarding Kobe.  Nate for offense when the Celtics were in that offensive drought (he only played 4 minutes in game 7! ) Doc went back to his horrible coaching of the past in game 7 for some reason.

The player we needed in game 7 was Perk, we didn’t need any other changes besides that.

[MBunge]

And Doc responds to TA's outstanding defense against LeBron by playing him significantly fewer minutes against both Orlando and LA.Mike

Well i think that was mainly because of TA hurting his ankle in game 2 of the Magic series. He was really hobbled for the rest of that series.

Then in the Lakers series his mpg are skewered by only playing 5 minutes in game 7. It was over 16 a game for the first 6 games, but then Doc went all starters for game 7, which i can kinda understand.

Yeah, but given how ineffective Ray was on offense, I didn't understand why TA didn't get a little more run in games 3 through 6.

Mike

[gar]

And we'll be sorry that he's gone when we don't get anyone who can defend on his level.

Fortunately, Avery Bradley may be that guy.  He's 6-3 with a 6-7 wingspan to Tony Allen's 6-4.  That's not really a size difference.  I don't see Bradley covering Bron, but don't remember that TAdid a ton of that in the playoffs ... did he?  Anyway, Bradley's strength is his one on one defense ... and Tony Allen was a knucklehead on offense, so Bradley couldn't be much worse.  I'll be glad to see the kid get some minutes.

Avery Bradley will not be able to guard Lebron, will not be able to guard Kobe, and probably will not be able to guard Wade. He is an undersized 2-guard, big wingspan or not.

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.  And, yes, a guy of Bradley's stature can guard Kobe as effectively as a guy built like TA.  Kobe doesn't overpower anyone, he relies of speed and off balance shots.  A guy build like Bradley can certainly guard him.  If he does remains to be seen.

As for Wade, that might be tougher.  But, frankly, before Allen played well in the playoffs nobody around here would've missed him at all.  Ainge has plenty of time to find someone at the trade deadline to fill a role if Bradley cannot.  No big loss.

Avery Bradley is considered by many to be the best perimeter defender in this draft class. He’s a guy who takes pride in being a lock down defender. I think he’s looking forward to try and slow these guys down.

AND Avery basically brings everything TA did plus a nice stroke from mid-range, and a decent shot from outside esspecially if it’s catch and shoot.

TA's wingspan is 6' 9" plus he has 20 lbs on Bradley. Don't want Bradley bulking up as I think is more value at PG.

[looseball]

No, Bradley won't guard Bron, but neither can TA.

Actually, Doc Rivers told the media that TA did the best job on Lebron of anyone on the team in these playoffs. He also defended Bron quite a bit as he played 20 mpg that series, the most he played in any series.

He was the only guy who could keep Lebron from getting the the rim at will because of his footspeed on defense. Avery Bradley is 19 and 180 pounds, he is NOT going to be able to defend Kobe or Wade, come on now.

 As for TA in Memphis, if Mayo starts at pg i think TA starts at Sg, and averages about 12 a game with good defense.

And Doc responds to TA's outstanding defense against LeBron by playing him significantly fewer minutes against both Orlando and LA.

Mike

Exactly!  I believe that's one of the reasons for the game 7 loss.  Not enough Tony and even Nate for offense.  Tony's not an offensive player, but he would force his way to the basket and draw fouls, all the while giving Ray a rest from guarding Kobe.  Nate for offense when the Celtics were in that offensive drought (he only played 4 minutes in game 7! ) Doc went back to his horrible coaching of the past in game 7 for some reason.

I think Doc suffered from "Grady Little" syndrome in game 7.

[2short]

No one has been able to figure out tony for 6 years now, why try ? Who knows what he is thinking or how he'll play for Memphis.  remember good tony bad tony

[jdpapa3]

I don't think people harp on his bad offense enough. He hurt our offense more than he helped our defense. People see him lock down Kobe, but then his defender can simply leave him wide open to roam on the other end. He is a bad option on a team where Rondo plays 40+ minutes.

In the playoffs, his net effect was -7.11 pp100 possessions on offense and he helped our defense by 4.83 pp100 possessions.

[Roy Hobbs]

Tony Allen in the most violent city in America?  Seems like a good match.