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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2010, 01:06:04 PM »

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We have one of the best point guards in the league in Rondo. Not sure why teh Celts would want Chris Paul -- seriously.
Brad Miller maybe?
Because he's better than Rondo and not a liability on offense.

If availalbe (which I doubt), I would trade Rondo, Perk, and Davis plus picks (throw in Harangody too) for Chris Paul without hesitation.  I believe Paul is far better than Rondo based on how easy it is for other teams to exploit Rondo's lack of a shot.  We would be way better with Chris Paul.


And then who would be our back up big?

Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2010, 01:23:21 PM »

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Brad Miller? Gross.

Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2010, 01:31:03 PM »

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A trade would be difficult because of Rondo's Base Year Compensation. You would be looking at a move like Sheed Rondo and Perk/Baby for Paul and Posey. After this trade we are stuck with vet. min. players. Not sure a CP3 trade, while probably unrealistic, makes us better. It could make us worse. CP3 is not a knock down shooter and he is a risk coming back from injury. That being said at this point in time CP3 will be a better recruiter than Rondo in the future but by 2012 that could change. I think I would rather have Rondo (healthy and cheaper), the Sheed deal to land a quality player, and either Perk or Baby then CP3 and a guy like Posey or Songaila or whoever. For sure that whoever guy IS NOT Okafor unless KG is in the deal because his contract is too big in a deal featuring Rondo's BYC contract.


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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2010, 02:43:05 PM »

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We have one of the best point guards in the league in Rondo. Not sure why teh Celts would want Chris Paul -- seriously.

Because he's better than Rondo and not a liability on offense.

Since when has Rondo become an offensive liability? He showed he can score when left with an open jumper, and had we won the championship last season there would be no argument about it. We fell short by one W and all of a sudden Rondo's back to year 1 status (where I will agree he WAS a liability on offense).

Also, I'd rather have an offensive liability than a defensive liability.

I'd rather have a (presumably) loyal Rajon Rondo for 5+ years as opposed to CP3 for 2 seasons, but I understand what this team's window is and how a trade would make "sense".
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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2010, 02:56:14 PM »

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We have one of the best point guards in the league in Rondo. Not sure why teh Celts would want Chris Paul -- seriously.

Because he's better than Rondo and not a liability on offense.

Since when has Rondo become an offensive liability? He showed he can score when left with an open jumper, and had we won the championship last season there would be no argument about it. We fell short by one W and all of a sudden Rondo's back to year 1 status (where I will agree he WAS a liability on offense).

Also, I'd rather have an offensive liability than a defensive liability.

I'd rather have a (presumably) loyal Rajon Rondo for 5+ years as opposed to CP3 for 2 seasons, but I understand what this team's window is and how a trade would make "sense".

He's been a liability since he came into the the league.  He showed it in the Finals too when Kobe didn't have to defend him and when he couldn't make free throws.
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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2010, 03:21:06 PM »

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We have one of the best point guards in the league in Rondo. Not sure why teh Celts would want Chris Paul -- seriously.

Because he's better than Rondo and not a liability on offense.

Since when has Rondo become an offensive liability? He showed he can score when left with an open jumper, and had we won the championship last season there would be no argument about it. We fell short by one W and all of a sudden Rondo's back to year 1 status (where I will agree he WAS a liability on offense).

Also, I'd rather have an offensive liability than a defensive liability.

I'd rather have a (presumably) loyal Rajon Rondo for 5+ years as opposed to CP3 for 2 seasons, but I understand what this team's window is and how a trade would make "sense".

DUDE, I love CP3's game but when you look at what all it would take to get Chris Paul from us i don't think the trade makes sense. Is Chris Paul that much better than Rondo? The dude just had two separate surgeries that caused him to miss like 40 games. Get on ESPN trade machine and see what deals you can work out that make us definitely better! It honestly makes no "sense".


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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2010, 03:34:48 PM »

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We have one of the best point guards in the league in Rondo. Not sure why teh Celts would want Chris Paul -- seriously.

Because he's better than Rondo and not a liability on offense.

Since when has Rondo become an offensive liability? He showed he can score when left with an open jumper, and had we won the championship last season there would be no argument about it. We fell short by one W and all of a sudden Rondo's back to year 1 status (where I will agree he WAS a liability on offense).

Also, I'd rather have an offensive liability than a defensive liability.

I'd rather have a (presumably) loyal Rajon Rondo for 5+ years as opposed to CP3 for 2 seasons, but I understand what this team's window is and how a trade would make "sense".

He's been a liability since he came into the the league.  He showed it in the Finals too when Kobe didn't have to defend him and when he couldn't make free throws.

  Thar was the worst free throw shooting stint of his career. And he's not a big liability on offense. He shoots poorly from the outside but he passes and penetrates as well as any point guard in the league. He becomes a liability when they're bogged down in a half court game and the others are struggling as well. The bulk of the time he's a good offensive player.

Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2010, 03:36:06 PM »

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We have one of the best point guards in the league in Rondo. Not sure why teh Celts would want Chris Paul -- seriously.

Because he's better than Rondo and not a liability on offense.
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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2010, 03:38:17 PM »

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Unquestionably, this is a call you need to make if you're Ainge - but it's a deal in which you cannot give away the farm.

Also, why exactly would NO want an offensively-challenged - and yes, despite the daily attempts on this board to rewrite history, the shooting percentages are clear that Rondo is offensively-challenged - Rondo when they have Collison? It's just amusing to see people try to paint Rondo as offensively accomplished - when he stops driving the basketball in the playoffs out of abject fear he's going to the foul line, where he's worse than Shaq.

I'd rather have CP3 and his more complete game - assuming he's willing to do an extension - than Rondo, NO question.

I just don't think we have the pieces NO would want.
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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2010, 03:44:12 PM »

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Unquestionably, this is a call you need to make if you're Ainge - but it's a deal in which you cannot give away the farm.

Also, why exactly would NO want an offensively-challenged - and yes, despite the daily attempts on this board to rewrite history, the shooting percentages are clear that Rondo is offensively-challenged - Rondo when they have Collison? It's just amusing to see people try to paint Rondo as offensively accomplished - when he stops driving the basketball in the playoffs out of abject fear he's going to the foul line, where he's worse than Shaq.

I'd rather have CP3 and his more complete game - assuming he's willing to do an extension - than Rondo, NO question.

I just don't think we have the pieces NO would want.

Feel like it would have to be a three-way deal with either Rondo or Collison being shipped to a third team.

Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2010, 03:50:47 PM »

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Defense = Rondo
Rebounding = Rondo
Playmaking = Draw
Driving to the basket = Draw
Jumpshooting = Paul
FT Shooting = Paul

Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2010, 03:52:23 PM »

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Unquestionably, this is a call you need to make if you're Ainge - but it's a deal in which you cannot give away the farm.

Also, why exactly would NO want an offensively-challenged - and yes, despite the daily attempts on this board to rewrite history, the shooting percentages are clear that Rondo is offensively-challenged - Rondo when they have Collison? It's just amusing to see people try to paint Rondo as offensively accomplished - when he stops driving the basketball in the playoffs out of abject fear he's going to the foul line, where he's worse than Shaq.

I'd rather have CP3 and his more complete game - assuming he's willing to do an extension - than Rondo, NO question.

I just don't think we have the pieces NO would want.

CoachBo, don't you remember the story lines out of this year's playoffs where they started calling the Cs stars the Big 4.

this was national media doing this. yet, you make the Rondo fan club out to be a few local hard-liners...if anything, the minority opinion now is those who believe Rondo is some sort of liability. that ship thankfully has sailed. Rondo is an All-Star, all defensive first teamer, and is signed to a very reasonable contract.

that said, I would do a deal for CP3 because he is a more complete MVP-type player. I would not give away the farm to get him, but I would consider a deal that included maybe Sheed's contract, Rondo, Baby, and Bradley....
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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2010, 04:41:40 PM »

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Defense = Rondo
Rebounding = Rondo
Playmaking = Draw
Driving to the basket = Draw
Jumpshooting = Paul
FT Shooting = Paul

  Rondo's better at driving to the basket.

Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2010, 04:42:56 PM »

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I am in favor of looking into a Rondo for Paul deal, but now, wish rumblings of him wanting a super team of his own, I'd need a contract extension first (a la the KG trade). I'm not down for trading Rondo's 5 years of service for 2 (or just one if he opts out) of Paul's.
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Re: How about Chris Paul?
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2010, 05:11:27 PM »

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Also, why exactly would NO want an offensively-challenged - and yes, despite the daily attempts on this board to rewrite history, the shooting percentages are clear that Rondo is offensively-challenged - Rondo when they have Collison? It's just amusing to see people try to paint Rondo as offensively accomplished - when he stops driving the basketball in the playoffs out of abject fear he's going to the foul line, where he's worse than Shaq.


  A few things: while the "shooting percentages are clear that Rondo is offensively-challenged", it's worth pointing out that Rondo led all point guards in fg% this year. He takes fewer shots than those point guards that score so much better than him, but when he takes more shots he scores more points. Also, some people who think Rondo's "offensively accomplished" consider things like passing and transition offense and not just outside shooting.

  You might also check out nba hotspots (or espn shot charts) to verify whether Rondo stopped driving because of "abject fear he's going to the foul line". Rondo took more inside shots per game vs the Lakers than he did against the Magic or the Cavs. He took (and made) more inside shots than Paul and Ray combined vs the Lakers. The team as a whole stopped driving against the Lakers, averaging about 38 inside shots a game in the first 4 games and about 31 a game in the last 3. Rondo averaged about 9 a game in the first 4 and (gasp) 9 a game in the last 3.