It's just not fair

[Ray3Allen]

I just saw a picture of James, Wade and Bosh together wearing Miami Jerseys and I think to myself,
"they actually going to play together, on the same team... OH MY GOD!!!"
You got to admit it's kinda crazy and they probably will win 70+ games but come playoff time,
you know we're going to eliminate them and i'm sure they know it.
That's the difference between winners and losers.

By the way, I'm new here and please excuse any mistakes... English is not my first language.
I just wanted to share my thoughts.

[wdleehi]

It is fair.  Miami made the moves they need to do to get to this point.


Cleveland and Toronto failed to keep their stars happy enough to stay. 


I still believe in Boston.

[xmuscularghandix]

Paul and Lebron have cancelled each other out in playoff series.

Dwyane Wade CANNOT cover Ray Allen. And it’s looked bad.

KG has laughed at the idea of being covered by Bosh in the post.



and we still have the best all around PG in the league... Grand Theft Rondo!


I still feel good about this.

Lastly, as it’s been pointed out before, Division winners get the top seedings regardless of actual record. Orlando, Atlanta, and Miami are in the same division, AND with Cleveland dead there is no real contender in the Central division. So despite some colossal breakdown, Boston will at worst be the 2nd seed in the East.

[wdleehi]

Paul and Lebron have cancelled each other out in playoff series.

Dwyane Wade CANNOT cover Ray Allen. And it’s looked bad.

KG has laughed at the idea of being covered by Bosh in the post.



and we still have the best all around PG in the league... Grand Theft Rondo!


I still feel good about this.

Lastly, as it’s been pointed out before, Division winners get the top seedings regardless of actual record. Orlando, Atlanta, and Miami are in the same division, AND with Cleveland dead there is no real contender in the Central division. So despite some colossal breakdown, Boston will at worst be the 2nd seed in the East.

Lebron shuts Pierce down.


Wade was shooting over 50% against the Celtics in the playoffs.



I still like Boston, but let's not make it a slam dunk.


Boston does need to avoid the 4th seed.  Teams should not want to have to go through Altanta, Orlando and Miami.

[Andy Jick]

okay, let's not forget the feeling we had when we saw paul, ray and KG sitting at that podium together for the first time...

I'm not about to say for one second that what miami has done is not fair.  we sound like whiners when we do that.  I applaud them for getting this to work out.  now it's up to our guys to shove it in their face...

[Bahku]

I just saw a picture of James, Wade and Bosh together wearing Miami Jerseys and I think to myself,
"they actually going to play together, on the same team... OH MY GOD!!!"
You got to admit it's kinda crazy and they probably will win 70+ games but come playoff time,
you know we're going to eliminate them and i'm sure they know it.
That's the difference between winners and losers.

By the way, I'm new here and please excuse any mistakes... English is not my first language.
I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Probably the same reaction that the fans of Seattle and Minnesota were having back in the summer of 2007.

It may not be what a lot of people want, it may not be what some consider as "fair", but it's their right and the way it's going to be.

That said, it doesn't worry me much more than their teams worried me individually, and whether or not they can put their egos aside enough to become a cohesive unit, will take some time to prove.

Anyway ... nice to have you on-board here, and your English is great! Here's your first Tommy Point as a welcome!

Hope you'll stick around!

[PosImpos]

I just saw a picture of James, Wade and Bosh together wearing Miami Jerseys and I think to myself,
"they actually going to play together, on the same team... OH MY GOD!!!"
You got to admit it's kinda crazy and they probably will win 70+ games but come playoff time,
you know we're going to eliminate them and i'm sure they know it.
That's the difference between winners and losers.

By the way, I'm new here and please excuse any mistakes... English is not my first language.
I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Probably the same reaction that the fans of Seattle and Minnesota were having back in the summer of 2007.

It may not be what a lot of people want, it may not be what some consider as "fair", but it's their right and the way it's going to be.

That said, it doesn't worry me much more than their teams worried me individually, and whether or not they can put their egos aside enough to become a cohesive unit, will take some time to prove.

Anyway ... nice to have you on-board here, and your English is great! Here's your first Tommy Point as a welcome!

Hope you'll stick around!

Can you imagine if Ray, Paul, and KG had gotten together 3 years earlier?

Yeah, it's kinda like that.

The Heat are going to be ridiculous.

[wdleehi]

I just saw a picture of James, Wade and Bosh together wearing Miami Jerseys and I think to myself,
"they actually going to play together, on the same team... OH MY GOD!!!"
You got to admit it's kinda crazy and they probably will win 70+ games but come playoff time,
you know we're going to eliminate them and i'm sure they know it.
That's the difference between winners and losers.

By the way, I'm new here and please excuse any mistakes... English is not my first language.
I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Probably the same reaction that the fans of Seattle and Minnesota were having back in the summer of 2007.

It may not be what a lot of people want, it may not be what some consider as "fair", but it's their right and the way it's going to be.

That said, it doesn't worry me much more than their teams worried me individually, and whether or not they can put their egos aside enough to become a cohesive unit, will take some time to prove.

Anyway ... nice to have you on-board here, and your English is great! Here's your first Tommy Point as a welcome!

Hope you'll stick around!

Can you imagine if Ray, Paul, and KG had gotten together 3 years earlier?

Yeah, it's kinda like that.

The Heat are going to be ridiculous.

But would they have had the right mindset three years earlier?

[Bahku]

I just saw a picture of James, Wade and Bosh together wearing Miami Jerseys and I think to myself,
"they actually going to play together, on the same team... OH MY GOD!!!"
You got to admit it's kinda crazy and they probably will win 70+ games but come playoff time,
you know we're going to eliminate them and i'm sure they know it.
That's the difference between winners and losers.

By the way, I'm new here and please excuse any mistakes... English is not my first language.
I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Probably the same reaction that the fans of Seattle and Minnesota were having back in the summer of 2007.

It may not be what a lot of people want, it may not be what some consider as "fair", but it's their right and the way it's going to be.

That said, it doesn't worry me much more than their teams worried me individually, and whether or not they can put their egos aside enough to become a cohesive unit, will take some time to prove.

Anyway ... nice to have you on-board here, and your English is great! Here's your first Tommy Point as a welcome!

Hope you'll stick around!

Can you imagine if Ray, Paul, and KG had gotten together 3 years earlier?

Yeah, it's kinda like that.

The Heat are going to be ridiculous.

But would they have had the right mindset three years earlier?

Probably not ... and that's what I'm thinking will happen, (or not happen, as it were), in this instance. Are these guys at the level of maturity where they can put their immensely huge egos aside for the sake of team play? I'm betting it may not happen quite as seemlessly as it did here.

[Who]

I just saw a picture of James, Wade and Bosh together wearing Miami Jerseys and I think to myself,
"they actually going to play together, on the same team... OH MY GOD!!!"
You got to admit it's kinda crazy and they probably will win 70+ games but come playoff time,
you know we're going to eliminate them and i'm sure they know it.
That's the difference between winners and losers.

By the way, I'm new here and please excuse any mistakes... English is not my first language.
I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Probably the same reaction that the fans of Seattle and Minnesota were having back in the summer of 2007.

It may not be what a lot of people want, it may not be what some consider as "fair", but it's their right and the way it's going to be.

That said, it doesn't worry me much more than their teams worried me individually, and whether or not they can put their egos aside enough to become a cohesive unit, will take some time to prove.

Anyway ... nice to have you on-board here, and your English is great! Here's your first Tommy Point as a welcome!

Hope you'll stick around!

Can you imagine if Ray, Paul, and KG had gotten together 3 years earlier?

Yeah, it's kinda like that.

The Heat are going to be ridiculous.

But would they have had the right mindset three years earlier?

Yes, definitely. No a concern in the world about those three playing together when they were younger.

[dlpin]

Even if egos get in the way the first season, they are still together for at least 4 more years. Eventually they will figure out a way to fit in.

Creating scenarios where they aren't overwhelming favorites is simply wishful thinking.

[Celtics4ever]

Not enough balls for those blokes and one of them LeBron clearly lacks balls of another sort.  They still got to play those games.  I don't think they have the maturity level to pull it off.  Wade does.  James might but Bosh is the weak link and he ain't going to like being 3rd fiddle with no touches.

Until we see them on the court play there is no way of telling how the chemistry will be.  On paper they superficially look good.  But one of them is a proven quitter/choke artist and the other is a big who hates contact and doesn't always play big.  I don't think they will figure it out if they don't get along.  Today's pro athlete isn't Ray Allen or Garnett.  They have been more pampered and throw fits and even meddle in front office.

Life isn't fair BTW.  Just ask LeBron this year when we didn't lay over and die for him.

[Kiorrik]

I just saw a picture of James, Wade and Bosh together wearing Miami Jerseys and I think to myself,
"they actually going to play together, on the same team... OH MY GOD!!!"
You got to admit it's kinda crazy and they probably will win 70+ games but come playoff time,
you know we're going to eliminate them and i'm sure they know it.
That's the difference between winners and losers.

By the way, I'm new here and please excuse any mistakes... English is not my first language.
I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Welcome welcome, and have a good time around here!

Tommy point for the English, seems rather alright

Many here haven't got English as their first language, so no worries.

[Larry Pistol]

Paul and Lebron have cancelled each other out in playoff series.

Dwyane Wade CANNOT cover Ray Allen. And it’s looked bad.

KG has laughed at the idea of being covered by Bosh in the post.



and we still have the best all around PG in the league... Grand Theft Rondo!


I still feel good about this.

Lastly, as it’s been pointed out before, Division winners get the top seedings regardless of actual record. Orlando, Atlanta, and Miami are in the same division, AND with Cleveland dead there is no real contender in the Central division. So despite some colossal breakdown, Boston will at worst be the 2nd seed in the East.

Lebron shuts Pierce down.


Wade was shooting over 50% against the Celtics in the playoffs.



I still like Boston, but let's not make it a slam dunk.


Boston does need to avoid the 4th seed.  Teams should not want to have to go through Altanta, Orlando and Miami.

First of all, Lebron does NOT shut Pierce down. You're severely misinformed with that one. And to be honest, no one in the league can really SHUT DOWN Pierce. He's a great mid range jump shooter and one of the best three point shooter, percentage-wise, in the NBA. You can't really play good defense on jump shooters, you just do what you can and hope he has an off night. On top of that, he's a player that can create his own shot. He can ALWAYS get to his spot at either elbow and knock it down. Remember back in 2005 when he lit the Cavs up for 50 points?? I bet you do now. Or in the 2007 Playoffs when he lit Lebron up for 41 and that game will probably go down as one of the greatest playoff games off all time. Yeah Lebron scored more but who won the game? On that note, no one can guard Lebron. But thats a different story for another time. Pierce may not be the best player in the league in any single category, but he is a future HOF'er and plays his BEST when against the best, such as Lebron, Kobe, D-Wade, etc.

As far as D-Wade goes, he's unstoppable. Ray Allen cannot guard him. However, Wade cannot guard Ray either. Like I said, you can't really shut down a jump shooter. Either they make 'em or they don't. It's usually the shooter having a good or bad game. Because you're not going to stop him from shooting, you can just slow him down.

But Bosh vs. Garnet is a joke. I don't even understand why Bosh was considered the third best free agent this off season. I mean don;t get me wrong, he's good but not even close that that good. Dude only made the second team all NBA...once. I personally feel that there were better free agents than him. But to my point, even with Garnet older and injury-prone now, he would still beast Bosh.

The real question is who would win between the Celtics and Heat. And no matter who posts what with arguments for either team, we will not know until they play. Needless to say the NBA will be amazing to watch these new teams this year.

[obnoxiousmime]

I think that in general, fans will always be opposed to players having more freedom. The reason being, everyone wants to believe that if their home team drafts and nurtures a superstar, that star will stay in town for at least 10 seasons, leaving only in his twilight years if he is trying to win a championship. The recent coordination by Wade, LeBron, and Bosh represents three star players circumventing a system designed to maintain continuity.

Watching the fan bases in Cleveland and Toronto, one gets the impression that it could easily be THEIR town that loses 7-8 years of a superstar's prime, and in Cleveland's case the team was actually winning 60 games a season. No, the unease that has crept amongst NBA fans is that if given too much control, NBA stars will almost always gravitate towards the biggest locations - New York, California, Florida and form superteams planned years in advance and without consideration of the loyal fans living in less glitzy locales.

Some people brought up the Celtics as an example of the first superteam, but remember that nobody wanted to touch Boston until Garnett was traded here, and it took the Ray Allen trade and another trade/rich extension for Garnett to get it done. And who knows if it would have even come to pass if Kevin McHale didn't have Boston ties. Chicago still wonders why their proposal wasn't good enough to land the Big Ticket.

Of course, free agents have a right to do whatever they want. However, this freedom doesn't always translate to a better league from the fan's perspective. If the players are going to decide the teams, then we'll eventually end up with a elite level of superteams in Los Angeles, Miami, New York, and Phoenix/Texas.