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Still not too late to rebuild?
« on: July 13, 2010, 11:08:41 PM »

Offline OhioGreen

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I believe Danny and Doc have misread this whole offseason.  They figured they'd go for a ring with the same core with a rebuilt bench, all the while preparing for the future with reduced contracts for PP and Ray.
To Danny's horror, though, the cost of FA has been WAY higher than expected, and instead of picking up 2-3 nice players with vet mins, he's watching anyone with any talent sign larger(even rediculous) contracts than anyone thought!
Honestly, did anyone think we'd be at this point--desperately nervous that we'll have no bench to go with our big 4?  I bet Doc is getting second thoughts about reuping right now! Next year we'll be no better off being only able to add another draft pick and MLE player, still being way over the cap!
So maybe it's not to late to find a team that will take KG for expirings and draft picks and do the same for Ray.  If we can get some young talent and picks it might be worth the suffering now, rather than going thru a season with 40-45 wins and an early playoff exit or even missing the playoffs. Just one bad injury to our big 4 would easily do that, with no bench to plug into the starting lineup. PP might demand out, but so be it!
Some might say the Heat are in the same boat--but--their big 3 are used to playing 42-44 minutes every night already. Their bench is less important than ours, but with Z,Haslem,Miller and JHoward already signing up they are light years ahead of us already in terms of depth. Magic, Bulls, Hawks, Bucks....we're only putting off the inevitable slow decline into lotteryville! 
I don't want to go thru mediocre years just to get to the bad years so we can start back up the ladder. It was a great 3 year run which could have been a three peat except for two injuries. Let's admit it's over and get on with building a new championship team!!

Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 11:10:44 PM »

Offline Mike-Dub

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I'm not trying to sound mean here or anything, but can you please do us all a favor and put spaces between your paragraphs.

 Oh and nobody's gonna trade for KG!
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Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 11:20:05 PM »

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I believe Danny and Doc have misread this whole offseason.  They figured they'd go for a ring with the same core with a rebuilt bench, all the while preparing for the future with reduced contracts for PP and Ray.


We have yet to rebuild the bench, and I am not going to be quick to press the panic button until I see how our full roster looks like.

Sure the off season has been some-what crazy, but we are still capable of getting a good bench. And just because we aren't hearing a lot of Celtic rumors, doesn't necessarily mean DA isn't active in trying to get us players for the bench.

Also it is not necessary that the names we hear through rumors are the only names the C's are considering.

The organization believes that this group has at least one more run left within them, and they will do what they can to ensure that we get quality players and have enough depth in the roster to make a run in the playoffs.

Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 11:23:13 PM »

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They have lost only TA so far.


Isn't it a little early to start panicking? 


Oh, and Cleveland lost Lebron.  I know, he is in Miami.  But that team still has to prove it can play together and they are further away from filling out a bench then the Celtics.

Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 11:28:56 PM »

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As others have said, it's way too early to panic.  Also, if this team goes into next season with those already signed, plus Nate, Bradley, Marquis, and a minimum guy at the 3 and a minimum guy at the 5, this team can still win it all...it'll just be less likely. 

Garnett could be better this year, two two years removed from injury.  Rondo could take the next step and become the premier point guard in the NBA.  Ray could catch fire in the playoffs and never go cold.  Jermaine O'Neal could blossom as he'll often be the last player on the court opposing defenses will worry about. 

Of course all of that could NOT happen.  However, it's way, way too early to talk about rebuilding. 

And even if that was the right idea (and it's not), it still simply isn't going to happen after Ray and Paul just signed extensions. 

Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 11:35:02 PM »

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My opinion is we are the Pistons of a few years ago.  

Our championship core is still here.  We can still play with any team on any given night but we are older and not as dangerous as we once were.  Fact of the matter is we still have a realistic window of this year and next to win a title.

I say we ride it out till the wheels fall off...then we start talking about rebuilding around Rajon.

My only fear when that times comes is...Boston is not "sexy" we cant pull a Miami (or the possible NY thing hinted @ during Carmelos wedding)

Look @ all our championships teams they were built on drafting and great trades.  That will have to continue.

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Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2010, 11:52:46 PM »

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I'm not a historian. But looking back into the history books, How many championship teams has a lottery team won? 0

Who cares about the once in the lifetime opportunity having 3-4 HOFs on your team. Bring on Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair

If sucking is so dear to your heart, I'd suggest rooting for Minnesota, Jersey, Clippers , Warriors...............


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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 11:54:09 PM »

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My opinion is we are the Pistons of a few years ago.  

Our championship core is still here.  We can still play with any team on any given night but we are older and not as dangerous as we once were.  Fact of the matter is we still have a realistic window of this year and next to win a title.

I say we ride it out till the wheels fall off...then we start talking about rebuilding around Rajon.

My only fear when that times comes is...Boston is not "sexy" we cant pull a Miami (or the possible NY thing hinted @ during Carmelos wedding)

Look @ all our championships teams they were built on drafting and great trades.  That will have to continue.




And the Piston gave up one more run when they trade Billups.  Who knows?  But was it worth Gordon and Charlie V?  I don't think so.

Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 11:55:12 PM »

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I'm not a historian. But looking back into the history books, How many championship teams has a lottery team won? 0

Who cares about the once in the lifetime opportunity having 3-4 HOFs on your team.

If sucking is so dear to your heart, I'd suggest rooting for Minnesota, Jersey, Clippers , Warriors...............



Tim Duncan has some Rings to show you...But I co sign your point.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 11:55:48 PM »

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Look @ all our championships teams they were built on drafting and great trades.  That will have to continue.



And I definitely believe Danny is a guy who can get that done.  He's already proven it.
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Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 12:03:50 AM »

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Look @ all our championships teams they were built on drafting and great trades.  That will have to continue.



And I definitely believe Danny is a guy who can get that done.  He's already proven it.


Amen Brother preach on.

I was scratching my Bald head @ our draft this year, but I have faith in Danny.  As long as he is where he is...I feel we are in good hands, he knows what needs to be done.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 12:21:56 AM »

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Look @ all our championships teams they were built on drafting and great trades.  That will have to continue.



And I definitely believe Danny is a guy who can get that done.  He's already proven it.


Amen Brother preach on.

I was scratching my Bald head @ our draft this year, but I have faith in Danny.  As long as he is where he is...I feel we are in good hands, he knows what needs to be done.

Exactly TP!
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Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 12:22:39 AM »

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I'm not a historian. But looking back into the history books, How many championship teams has a lottery team won? 0

Who cares about the once in the lifetime opportunity having 3-4 HOFs on your team. Bring on Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair

If sucking is so dear to your heart, I'd suggest rooting for Minnesota, Jersey, Clippers , Warriors...............



This.

It is absolutely staggering to me that people want to blow this up after coming six minutes short of a title.

Absolutely staggering.

Wyc and Danny have absolutely chosen the correct course. We have lost nothing that cannot be replaced. Time to reload and take another run at it. Rebuilding is insane at this point.
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Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2010, 12:34:13 AM »

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My fist TP ty. ;D

After lurking for years and finally creating an account :)

Yes I agree we were so close.  No that the major player are back in the fold lets buckle up for another bumpy but fun ride.

I want to see how this plays out the window has not closed on us yet.  Like I said before we still have a realistic 2 years to be on top.
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Re: Still not too late to rebuild?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2010, 12:41:05 AM »

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I don't get it.

The Celtics were two knee injuries away from a three-peat. They almost (should have?) won one despite one of them.

It's not like other sports, it's difficult to rebuild in the technical sense. If you mean trade away/let go players of value for little-to-nothing in return and living in the lottery for half a decade, then yeah, you can rebuild in the NBA. You can't just go out and trade an aging all-star for a couple blue-chip prospects like you can in baseball. You can't get 7 impact players in one draft like you can in the NFL.

So when you are so close, and your core are still playing at an elite level, it makes sense to keep trying for it. If the Celtics flamed out in an early round, you have a case for moving on. But the 2010 playoffs proved this team still has that championship moxie, and if they had HCA or their starting lineup intact, they would have won it all.

Add pieces and make another run. Teams like this do not grow on trees.
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