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Re: Rudy Fernandez anyone?
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2010, 11:23:04 AM »

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Heard they're not emamored with Batum either.

Do you have a source for that? Cuz from what I gather, they like him... It would be a coup if they'd be willing to deal him to Boston...

That was my understanding as well - that Batum fit heavily into their plans. Although they're throwing money at Wesley Matthews so...

Oops.  My bad.  I was thinking of Martel Webster.

he's in Minny now. Here's a look at the trade likelihood on the Blazers...

http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/6/16/1522377/tradeability
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Re: Rudy Fernandez anyone?
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2010, 02:59:51 PM »

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The chief suitor for Fernandez’ talents would appear to be FC Barcelona. Not only are the Blaugrana apparently waiting to decide on contracts for Gianluca Basile and/or Roger Grimau in the hopes Fernandez might be freed up. And according to Spanish-language website Sport.es, that’s exactly where Fernandez wants to go: “Rudy and his representatives have commented that his desire is to play on the Blaugrana – next to his friend Ricky Rubio – and that would be his first choice should he decide to leave the NBA.” Ball In Europe

This, the signing of Wesley Matthews to a rather large offer sheet, and the fact that they would have four (Roy, Matthews, Elliot Williams,  and JD Bayless) other shooting guards on the roster, all suggest that Portland expect Fernandez to depart.  He has also been quite unsatisfied with his life/role/plight with the Trailblazers.  Rather than lose him with nothing in return, it would seem they would be highly motivated to move him.  If he would "like" to play for Boston and a way to acquire him can be implemented, this would seem to be a win/win. 

The methods of acquisition apparently available are either the 2 D-leaguer contracts or Sheed's contract for Fernandez and either Pryzbilla or Oden (or Andre Miller but I'm pretty positive that isn't happening unless a third team is involved).  The Trailblazers have three centers and there is no reason to believe they want to be rid of any of them.  They do account for $24M of the $65.7 they have committed (before adding in Wesley Matthews 5.7 or 9.2--I'm unclear on how the front loading will play out) so perhaps there is something about getting below the Luxury Cap.  Pryzbilla is coming off surgery but should be further along in his recovery than Perk will be.  Oden is a crap shoot with potential for high payoff and complete bust being about equal odds with journeyman who never fulfilled his promise.  I actually like the Oden gamble and if fits my idea of Danny/Red bringing in the long shots.

Re: Rudy Fernandez anyone?
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2010, 03:34:35 PM »

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The chief suitor for Fernandez’ talents would appear to be FC Barcelona. Not only are the Blaugrana apparently waiting to decide on contracts for Gianluca Basile and/or Roger Grimau in the hopes Fernandez might be freed up. And according to Spanish-language website Sport.es, that’s exactly where Fernandez wants to go: “Rudy and his representatives have commented that his desire is to play on the Blaugrana – next to his friend Ricky Rubio – and that would be his first choice should he decide to leave the NBA.” Ball In Europe

Despite his admitted homesickness, Rudy has stated on several occasions that his preference is the NBA.

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« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2010, 03:43:41 PM »

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The chief suitor for Fernandez’ talents would appear to be FC Barcelona. Not only are the Blaugrana apparently waiting to decide on contracts for Gianluca Basile and/or Roger Grimau in the hopes Fernandez might be freed up. And according to Spanish-language website Sport.es, that’s exactly where Fernandez wants to go: “Rudy and his representatives have commented that his desire is to play on the Blaugrana – next to his friend Ricky Rubio – and that would be his first choice should he decide to leave the NBA.” Ball In Europe

This, the signing of Wesley Matthews to a rather large offer sheet, and the fact that they would have four (Roy, Matthews, Elliot Williams,  and JD Bayless) other shooting guards on the roster, all suggest that Portland expect Fernandez to depart.  He has also been quite unsatisfied with his life/role/plight with the Trailblazers.  Rather than lose him with nothing in return, it would seem they would be highly motivated to move him.  If he would "like" to play for Boston and a way to acquire him can be implemented, this would seem to be a win/win. 

The methods of acquisition apparently available are either the 2 D-leaguer contracts or Sheed's contract for Fernandez and either Pryzbilla or Oden (or Andre Miller but I'm pretty positive that isn't happening unless a third team is involved).  The Trailblazers have three centers and there is no reason to believe they want to be rid of any of them.  They do account for $24M of the $65.7 they have committed (before adding in Wesley Matthews 5.7 or 9.2--I'm unclear on how the front loading will play out) so perhaps there is something about getting below the Luxury Cap.  Pryzbilla is coming off surgery but should be further along in his recovery than Perk will be.  Oden is a crap shoot with potential for high payoff and complete bust being about equal odds with journeyman who never fulfilled his promise.  I actually like the Oden gamble and if fits my idea of Danny/Red bringing in the long shots.

TP, good info. I'd like Oden+Rudy for Sheed+Gody and future first (2011). If Portland is tired of waiting on Oden, could the kid be the next Chief (he won't be the next Bill Russell with those knees)?

He could play behind JO and make Perk tradeable next year. Probably Portland hasn't given up on him yet... try it, Danny!!!

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« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2010, 03:50:59 PM »

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The chief suitor for Fernandez’ talents would appear to be FC Barcelona. Not only are the Blaugrana apparently waiting to decide on contracts for Gianluca Basile and/or Roger Grimau in the hopes Fernandez might be freed up. And according to Spanish-language website Sport.es, that’s exactly where Fernandez wants to go: “Rudy and his representatives have commented that his desire is to play on the Blaugrana – next to his friend Ricky Rubio – and that would be his first choice should he decide to leave the NBA.” Ball In Europe

This, the signing of Wesley Matthews to a rather large offer sheet, and the fact that they would have four (Roy, Matthews, Elliot Williams,  and JD Bayless) other shooting guards on the roster, all suggest that Portland expect Fernandez to depart.  He has also been quite unsatisfied with his life/role/plight with the Trailblazers.  Rather than lose him with nothing in return, it would seem they would be highly motivated to move him.  If he would "like" to play for Boston and a way to acquire him can be implemented, this would seem to be a win/win. 

The methods of acquisition apparently available are either the 2 D-leaguer contracts or Sheed's contract for Fernandez and either Pryzbilla or Oden (or Andre Miller but I'm pretty positive that isn't happening unless a third team is involved).  The Trailblazers have three centers and there is no reason to believe they want to be rid of any of them.  They do account for $24M of the $65.7 they have committed (before adding in Wesley Matthews 5.7 or 9.2--I'm unclear on how the front loading will play out) so perhaps there is something about getting below the Luxury Cap.  Pryzbilla is coming off surgery but should be further along in his recovery than Perk will be.  Oden is a crap shoot with potential for high payoff and complete bust being about equal odds with journeyman who never fulfilled his promise.  I actually like the Oden gamble and if fits my idea of Danny/Red bringing in the long shots.

TP, good info. I'd like Oden+Rudy for Sheed+Gody and future first (2011). If Portland is tired of waiting on Oden, could the kid be the next Chief (he won't be the next Bill Russell with those knees)?

He could play behind JO and make Perk tradeable next year. Probably Portland hasn't given up on him yet... try it, Danny!!!


So now we're getting Oden in a Rudy Fernandez trade? Please.....
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Re: Rudy Fernandez anyone?
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2010, 04:09:02 PM »

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The chief suitor for Fernandez’ talents would appear to be FC Barcelona. Not only are the Blaugrana apparently waiting to decide on contracts for Gianluca Basile and/or Roger Grimau in the hopes Fernandez might be freed up. And according to Spanish-language website Sport.es, that’s exactly where Fernandez wants to go: “Rudy and his representatives have commented that his desire is to play on the Blaugrana – next to his friend Ricky Rubio – and that would be his first choice should he decide to leave the NBA.” Ball In Europe

This, the signing of Wesley Matthews to a rather large offer sheet, and the fact that they would have four (Roy, Matthews, Elliot Williams,  and JD Bayless) other shooting guards on the roster, all suggest that Portland expect Fernandez to depart.  He has also been quite unsatisfied with his life/role/plight with the Trailblazers.  Rather than lose him with nothing in return, it would seem they would be highly motivated to move him.  If he would "like" to play for Boston and a way to acquire him can be implemented, this would seem to be a win/win. 

The methods of acquisition apparently available are either the 2 D-leaguer contracts or Sheed's contract for Fernandez and either Pryzbilla or Oden (or Andre Miller but I'm pretty positive that isn't happening unless a third team is involved).  The Trailblazers have three centers and there is no reason to believe they want to be rid of any of them.  They do account for $24M of the $65.7 they have committed (before adding in Wesley Matthews 5.7 or 9.2--I'm unclear on how the front loading will play out) so perhaps there is something about getting below the Luxury Cap.  Pryzbilla is coming off surgery but should be further along in his recovery than Perk will be.  Oden is a crap shoot with potential for high payoff and complete bust being about equal odds with journeyman who never fulfilled his promise.  I actually like the Oden gamble and if fits my idea of Danny/Red bringing in the long shots.

TP, good info. I'd like Oden+Rudy for Sheed+Gody and future first (2011). If Portland is tired of waiting on Oden, could the kid be the next Chief (he won't be the next Bill Russell with those knees)?

He could play behind JO and make Perk tradeable next year. Probably Portland hasn't given up on him yet... try it, Danny!!!
Let's try to keep this based in reality. 

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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2010, 04:42:32 PM »

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The chief suitor for Fernandez’ talents would appear to be FC Barcelona. Not only are the Blaugrana apparently waiting to decide on contracts for Gianluca Basile and/or Roger Grimau in the hopes Fernandez might be freed up. And according to Spanish-language website Sport.es, that’s exactly where Fernandez wants to go: “Rudy and his representatives have commented that his desire is to play on the Blaugrana – next to his friend Ricky Rubio – and that would be his first choice should he decide to leave the NBA.” Ball In Europe

This, the signing of Wesley Matthews to a rather large offer sheet, and the fact that they would have four (Roy, Matthews, Elliot Williams,  and JD Bayless) other shooting guards on the roster, all suggest that Portland expect Fernandez to depart.  He has also been quite unsatisfied with his life/role/plight with the Trailblazers.  Rather than lose him with nothing in return, it would seem they would be highly motivated to move him.  If he would "like" to play for Boston and a way to acquire him can be implemented, this would seem to be a win/win. 

The methods of acquisition apparently available are either the 2 D-leaguer contracts or Sheed's contract for Fernandez and either Pryzbilla or Oden (or Andre Miller but I'm pretty positive that isn't happening unless a third team is involved).  The Trailblazers have three centers and there is no reason to believe they want to be rid of any of them.  They do account for $24M of the $65.7 they have committed (before adding in Wesley Matthews 5.7 or 9.2--I'm unclear on how the front loading will play out) so perhaps there is something about getting below the Luxury Cap.  Pryzbilla is coming off surgery but should be further along in his recovery than Perk will be.  Oden is a crap shoot with potential for high payoff and complete bust being about equal odds with journeyman who never fulfilled his promise.  I actually like the Oden gamble and if fits my idea of Danny/Red bringing in the long shots.

TP, good info. I'd like Oden+Rudy for Sheed+Gody and future first (2011). If Portland is tired of waiting on Oden, could the kid be the next Chief (he won't be the next Bill Russell with those knees)?

He could play behind JO and make Perk tradeable next year. Probably Portland hasn't given up on him yet... try it, Danny!!!
Let's try to keep this based in reality. 

then what would be the point of cb????  ;D
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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2010, 05:19:20 PM »

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I know the idea of getting Oden and Rudy is mostly a pipe dream, but it is good to dream.  So, I'll add a little to the earlier trade for Rudy and Oden.  How would a package of the following do?

1)  Sheed's retiring contract
2)  Baby
3)  2011 & 2013 1st round picks
4)  2012 & 2014 2nd round picks

I know that I also am just throwing stuff against the wall, but what else is the reason for having CB?

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« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2010, 05:22:32 PM »

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I know the idea of getting Oden and Rudy is mostly a pipe dream, but it is good to dream.  So, I'll add a little to the earlier trade for Rudy and Oden.  How would a package of the following do?

1)  Sheed's retiring contract
2)  Baby
3)  2011 & 2013 1st round picks
4)  2012 & 2014 2nd round picks

I know that I also am just throwing stuff against the wall, but what else is the reason for having CB?



Well Sheed's contract + Baby works for Oden and Rudy...so you really don't have to add the picks unless you want to sweeten the deal.

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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2010, 05:24:38 PM »

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I didn't read the whole thread but I'm sure many people here like Rudy as much as I do. 

Would love love love to see him in green but from what I gather it's just not going to happen. :(

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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2010, 05:30:05 PM »

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I know the idea of getting Oden and Rudy is mostly a pipe dream, but it is good to dream.  So, I'll add a little to the earlier trade for Rudy and Oden.  How would a package of the following do?

1)  Sheed's retiring contract
2)  Baby
3)  2011 & 2013 1st round picks
4)  2012 & 2014 2nd round picks

I know that I also am just throwing stuff against the wall, but what else is the reason for having CB?


Although I doubt Portland would do that, I don't think the Celtics should either.

I like Rudy - a lot. But I wouldn't give away FOUR picks, including two first-rounders for him. Oden is a mystery still. Can he stay healthy? If he can do that, can he really produce like an all-star?

I'd much rather to go into the year with Baby than Oden. I'd feel more comfortable knowing what I will get with Baby, while maybe Oden can produce more, but at this point I am not sure how much more. Then there is the risk you could get what Portland got from him every year - very little to nothing.

So Rudy for 'Sheed's contract AND two first's and two second's? IDK about that.

Danny can draft. Taking away one a year is dangerous when he has one eye on the future.
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« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2010, 06:32:06 PM »

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rudy is just 25.  if we land him, aren't we really bringing him to be a possible replacement for Ray, at which time he will be 27.  so is trading a draft pick or two in a deal for him too steep of a price, considering the idea that you are trading for a future starter?

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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2010, 06:35:06 PM »

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Rudy Fernandez is NOT  a quality starter on a winner. No way. Th guy is a highlight reel player, a selfish one at that. He's simply not very good.
     Even off the bench the guy is just looking to get HIS.

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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2010, 06:36:48 PM »

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i LOATHE fernandez. Sorry. Here's some..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkHM_rIe6Sk

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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2010, 06:40:15 PM »

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