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Real ugly real fast!
« on: July 11, 2010, 07:06:26 PM »

Offline OhioGreen

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Love our starting five, even without Perk, as I think JO will be an adequate fill in.  Perk, however, I don't see coming back 'til playoffs and then at only a fraction of his true self.  Look how long it took TA to make it all the way back, and Perk tore all 3 major knee ligaments, not 2 like Tony.
It's what comes after the starters that's getting VERY worrisome.  Big Baby and that's it! Two rookies, two nonguaranteed FA's.  Nobody showing real interest in us from what's left of the pathetic FA market, and very marginal players still getting more than the vet min, bodes very poorly for us.  Heck, JO only signed cause he got the full MLE which is probably more than he should have!
With our aging starters ever more and more injury prone what's gonna be left to plug into the starting lineup is not pretty.  Almost started a thread titled "who's left that is desperate enough to sign with us?"
Maybe Danny didn't have any choice but to do it this way, but starting from scratch this year might not have been the worst way to go!
Before long we may be pleading to resign Scal and Sheldon.  Real ugly real fast could easily become reality.

Re: Real ugly real fast!
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 07:26:26 PM »

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It's just a matter of time before we start over. It won't be pretty. It will be sad. The 3 did produce a New Banner with the help of Rondo. Then nearly won another which would have been a fact if tough guy Perk didn't go down. For a young dude he's prone to injuries, the bad ones. Like a shoulder that won't stay in place.

It will take all the Luck the Celts can dig up to keep us competitive this season. A few teams laying in the weeds for us from last season. This is no way to run a business. Although the owner must think the seats will be filled with this crew. This is the way Celtic management has been for decades now. Not in LA. They say Thanks for the memories. See ya. That's why they will pass the Celts for Banners like the Roadrunner after a meal. Oh I forgot now we have Miami in our way also. Anyway they are my Celtics.

Re: Real ugly real fast!
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 10:50:17 PM »

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Love our starting five, even without Perk, as I think JO will be an adequate fill in.  Perk, however, I don't see coming back 'til playoffs and then at only a fraction of his true self.  Look how long it took TA to make it all the way back, and Perk tore all 3 major knee ligaments, not 2 like Tony.
It's what comes after the starters that's getting VERY worrisome.  Big Baby and that's it! Two rookies, two nonguaranteed FA's.  Nobody showing real interest in us from what's left of the pathetic FA market, and very marginal players still getting more than the vet min, bodes very poorly for us.  Heck, JO only signed cause he got the full MLE which is probably more than he should have!
With our aging starters ever more and more injury prone what's gonna be left to plug into the starting lineup is not pretty.  Almost started a thread titled "who's left that is desperate enough to sign with us?"
Maybe Danny didn't have any choice but to do it this way, but starting from scratch this year might not have been the worst way to go!
Before long we may be pleading to resign Scal and Sheldon.  Real ugly real fast could easily become reality.

You can say the same thing about the Heat right now, but everyone is creaming their pants about their top 3 players. There roster is nowhere near complete.

Right now, the Celtics have BBD, AB, and Semih Erden signed on for next season, not including non-guaranteed contracts like Harangody, Gaffney and Lafayette.

That's three players, of which only one has a definite spot in the rotation. Of course once Perk comes back, that shifts JO to the bench.

JO and BBD are about as good of a backup tandem as you will find.

KG and Perk are one of the best starting bigs in the NBA, and definitely the best defensively. Couple that with the Celtics mighty PG-SG-SF trio, they are probably the most complete starting unit.

The Celtics are in dire need of a quality wing or two decent ones (can Bradley be one by the playoffs?). Then backup PG, which with Rondo playing 38-40 mpg in the playoffs, it's not high on the priority list. Plus we can afford Nate.


I'm not nearly as pessimistic as some (or most) of you guys are. Let's see how these next two seasons play out.

Last year we came out the gates like gangbusters, to a record-setting start of 27-2. We were the team to beat until that infamous February game in Utah.

This year, we again started off clobbering opponents like they were college teams. Then injury after injury, setback after setback, and we were down and out. Then we got healthy and came within another knee injury of winning another championship.

What I am alluding to is that it's difficult to predict what will happen in season, let alone in two, three, five years.

Ainge has proven he knows what he is doing. Take a look at the 2003 Celtics roster that DA inherited. Exactly five years later, we raised another banner.

Anything is possible!
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Re: Real ugly real fast!
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 06:59:50 AM »

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The only dif between us and Heat is they are the new craze on the block and everyone will want to play with them for nothing, while most are seeing us as old and fading fast, and not a real alternative for a ring!
When I woke up this morning and saw the front page of the blog, it seems I'm not alone in my thinking!

Re: Real ugly real fast!
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 07:15:23 AM »

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It's just a matter of time before we start over. It won't be pretty. It will be sad. The 3 did produce a New Banner with the help of Rondo. Then nearly won another which would have been a fact if tough guy Perk didn't go down. For a young dude he's prone to injuries, the bad ones. Like a shoulder that won't stay in place.

It will take all the Luck the Celts can dig up to keep us competitive this season. A few teams laying in the weeds for us from last season. This is no way to run a business. Although the owner must think the seats will be filled with this crew. This is the way Celtic management has been for decades now. Not in LA. They say Thanks for the memories. See ya. That's why they will pass the Celts for Banners like the Roadrunner after a meal. Oh I forgot now we have Miami in our way also. Anyway they are my Celtics.

Classic post.  Not really your celtics.  This is so far out there that it needs its own address.

Who did you think Boston was going to sign for min and who has miami signed that you think is good for min? 

I'm as confused of the above point as I am about your LA point which I have a hard time understanding.

Nothing like Celticsblog during the summer. : (

TP for the good vibes.

You can throw this thread in with some picking Boston as the biggest loser for losing Tony Allen and Sheed retiring lol.
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Re: Real ugly real fast!
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 07:25:44 AM »

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Love our starting five, even without Perk, as I think JO will be an adequate fill in.  Perk, however, I don't see coming back 'til playoffs and then at only a fraction of his true self.  Look how long it took TA to make it all the way back, and Perk tore all 3 major knee ligaments, not 2 like Tony.
It's what comes after the starters that's getting VERY worrisome.  Big Baby and that's it! Two rookies, two nonguaranteed FA's.  Nobody showing real interest in us from what's left of the pathetic FA market, and very marginal players still getting more than the vet min, bodes very poorly for us.  Heck, JO only signed cause he got the full MLE which is probably more than he should have!
With our aging starters ever more and more injury prone what's gonna be left to plug into the starting lineup is not pretty.  Almost started a thread titled "who's left that is desperate enough to sign with us?"
Maybe Danny didn't have any choice but to do it this way, but starting from scratch this year might not have been the worst way to go!
Before long we may be pleading to resign Scal and Sheldon.  Real ugly real fast could easily become reality.

You can say the same thing about the Heat right now, but everyone is creaming their pants about their top 3 players. There roster is nowhere near complete.

Right now, the Celtics have BBD, AB, and Semih Erden signed on for next season, not including non-guaranteed contracts like Harangody, Gaffney and Lafayette.

That's three players, of which only one has a definite spot in the rotation. Of course once Perk comes back, that shifts JO to the bench.

JO and BBD are about as good of a backup tandem as you will find.

KG and Perk are one of the best starting bigs in the NBA, and definitely the best defensively. Couple that with the Celtics mighty PG-SG-SF trio, they are probably the most complete starting unit.

The Celtics are in dire need of a quality wing or two decent ones (can Bradley be one by the playoffs?). Then backup PG, which with Rondo playing 38-40 mpg in the playoffs, it's not high on the priority list. Plus we can afford Nate.


I'm not nearly as pessimistic as some (or most) of you guys are. Let's see how these next two seasons play out.

Last year we came out the gates like gangbusters, to a record-setting start of 27-2. We were the team to beat until that infamous February game in Utah.

This year, we again started off clobbering opponents like they were college teams. Then injury after injury, setback after setback, and we were down and out. Then we got healthy and came within another knee injury of winning another championship.

What I am alluding to is that it's difficult to predict what will happen in season, let alone in two, three, five years.

Ainge has proven he knows what he is doing. Take a look at the 2003 Celtics roster that DA inherited. Exactly five years later, we raised another banner.

Anything is possible!

You appear to have taken that post seriously.  TP for all the hard lifting but, I think you are wasting your time.  The force is not strong in this one.
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Re: Real ugly real fast!
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 09:49:22 AM »

Offline Celtics4ever

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Perk has a good workout ethic and we know he is a gymn guy.  I think he may come back quicker than others with the injury because of his work ethic.  I worry more about him rushing back and overdoing it actually.

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 10:29:40 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 10:31:33 AM »

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It's just a matter of time before we start over. It won't be pretty. It will be sad. The 3 did produce a New Banner with the help of Rondo. Then nearly won another which would have been a fact if tough guy Perk didn't go down. For a young dude he's prone to injuries, the bad ones. Like a shoulder that won't stay in place.

It will take all the Luck the Celts can dig up to keep us competitive this season. A few teams laying in the weeds for us from last season. This is no way to run a business. Although the owner must think the seats will be filled with this crew. This is the way Celtic management has been for decades now. Not in LA. They say Thanks for the memories. See ya. That's why they will pass the Celts for Banners like the Roadrunner after a meal. Oh I forgot now we have Miami in our way also. Anyway they are my Celtics.

Classic post.  Not really your celtics.  This is so far out there that it needs its own address.

Who did you think Boston was going to sign for min and who has miami signed that you think is good for min? 

I'm as confused of the above point as I am about your LA point which I have a hard time understanding.

Nothing like Celticsblog during the summer. : (

TP for the good vibes.

You can throw this thread in with some picking Boston as the biggest loser for losing Tony Allen and Sheed retiring lol.

NO kidding. It's time for a vacation so the hyperbole can die down.
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