Hawks exploring trades for Josh Smith

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Here's one link i found...

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/05/shaq-weighing-offer-from-hawks-to-join-johnson/

[Bankshot]

Keep dreaming. Celtics have no one to offer.

How about the only NBA player who has proven he can defend the best player in their division 1-on-1, and a guy who comes off the books the day after you get him? This is the Hawks....

You trade Perk and Sheed, move KG to center, and play Smith at PF. The Hawks can then move Horford back to his natural position -- PF -- and use Zaza until Perk gets back.

Why move KG to center when he doesn't like playing center?

[dwlefty13]

Keep dreaming. Celtics have no one to offer.

How about the only NBA player who has proven he can defend the best player in their division 1-on-1, and a guy who comes off the books the day after you get him? This is the Hawks....

You trade Perk and Sheed, move KG to center, and play Smith at PF. The Hawks can then move Horford back to his natural position -- PF -- and use Zaza until Perk gets back.

Is it possible to trade an injured player (Perk) to another team?? I didn't think it was possible...

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Keep dreaming. Celtics have no one to offer.

How about the only NBA player who has proven he can defend the best player in their division 1-on-1, and a guy who comes off the books the day after you get him? This is the Hawks....

You trade Perk and Sheed, move KG to center, and play Smith at PF. The Hawks can then move Horford back to his natural position -- PF -- and use Zaza until Perk gets back.

Why move KG to center when he doesn't like playing center?

Is this a serious question? Because it would make the team better. If players never did anything they didn't like, every team would be the Warriors.

[Who]

Atlanta should try to get Bosh in a sign and trade. Offer Josh Smith and Jamal Crawford as bait.

A trio of Bosh, Johnson and Horford would be formidable.

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Here's another interesting note on the subject -- see the part about their desire to add a "bulky" center.

http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2010/07/05/atlanta-hawks-shaq-open-to-joining-hawks/?cxntfid=blogs_hawks

[Rashi]

Do you have a link to this rumor from Hoopshype?  I don't see it.

ditto

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=NBA



Looks like Hawks are packaging him with 2 other players to get an elite pg. I guess there goes our chance of trying to get him for Sheed + Baby.

[RJ87]

Hawks have been exploring trades for Josh Smith according to hoopshype... I would love to have Smith here even if it means playing him at SF and moving Pierce to SG. Smith would be a perfect complement to Rondo and I couldnt imagine the defense with him and KG.

Sign and trade with Ray for Smith?

Sheeds contract and BBD a pick or two for Smith?

I dont think the second offer would be enough but the Hawks might be looking to gain some cap space with the Johnson signing. I think they would love to put Ray into that lineup though.

Well, now that they have resigned Johnson, I don't think Ray is an option.  However, I would be offering Perk and Sheed with a first round pick (or even two) for Smith. 

Smith would be a great fit with Rondo, and could transform this team into a real up tempo team quickly. 

And if Atlanta wants any chance of ever beating the Magic, they would likely be very interested in Perk. 

This would allow them to move Horford and/or Williams to PF, and become more of a traditional, grind it out type team. 

I think this is a bit crazy off of the year Smith had, but if he is on the block, I think that is at least a reasonable offer.

Sheed's contract + Perk + a pick would be the best package we could offer IMO. The get a legit Center and Horford could move to PF where's he's most comfortable.

[birdwatcher]

Hawks have been exploring trades for Josh Smith according to hoopshype... I would love to have Smith here even if it means playing him at SF and moving Pierce to SG. Smith would be a perfect complement to Rondo and I couldnt imagine the defense with him and KG.

Sign and trade with Ray for Smith?

Sheeds contract and BBD a pick or two for Smith?

I dont think the second offer would be enough but the Hawks might be looking to gain some cap space with the Johnson signing. I think they would love to put Ray into that lineup though.

Sorry, I don't think Paul can play the 2 anymore. He's a lot more muscular and well, older than he was a few a years ago when he played the 2. Plus, why move Smith out of position when he's thrived at the 4? IMO, he's split equal minutes with KG. Hell I might even start him over KG. We will never get him though. Until Chris Wallace becomes Atlanta's GM it just won't happen. Why would they want to trade their third legitimate All-Star caliber player anyway? If the starters on the All-Star team wasn't a popularity contest, Smith would have been on that roster, as much as I hate to have three Hawks on that team!

[Lucky17]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=NBA



Looks like Hawks are packaging him with 2 other players to get an elite pg. I guess there goes our chance of trying to get him for Sheed + Baby.

I don't get this. The contracts discussed here total around $17-$18 million. What elite point guard is out there with that kind of price tag?

Why not simply offer Bibby and some filler to Toronto for Calderon? Or Marvin Williams in a S&T for Ray Felton?

Smith does not need to be involved, unless there are personality issues. And now that his name has been mentioned in trade rumors, there will be.

While the rest of the league plays chess, the Hawks' front office is barely comfortable with the rudimentary elements of checkers.

[thedawg]

Keep dreaming. Celtics have no one to offer.

I think the idea would be that the Hawks need to move him for financial reasons and we might be able to offer that with Sheed's contract....

...or this would be the final addition to the team that gets Lebron and one of his friends (LeBron/Wade/Smith).......

If anything the Knicks should jump on this with both legs.

[RJ87]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=NBA



Looks like Hawks are packaging him with 2 other players to get an elite pg. I guess there goes our chance of trying to get him for Sheed + Baby.

I don't get this. The contracts discussed here total around $17-$18 million. What elite point guard is out there with that kind of price tag?

Why not simply offer Bibby and some filler to Toronto for Calderon? Or Marvin Williams in a S&T for Ray Felton?

Smith does not need to be involved, unless there are personality issues. And now that his name has been mentioned in trade rumors, there will be.

While the rest of the league plays chess, the Hawks' front office is barely comfortable with the rudimentary elements of checkers.

First off, that just speculates that they're looking to add a PG. But the Hawks seem to be looking at more options than just PG.

Secondly, trading Smith for some financial flexibility will allow them to lock up Horford next offseason. And Horford is a PF, he plays out of position at the C spot - he's said publicly he wants to play PF but he can't because what are they gonna do with Smith. Seems they've decided to move forward with Horford and will see if they can fill some gaps with whatever they get for Smith.

It's not as dumb of a move as it seems to be at first glance.

[Rashi]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=NBA



Looks like Hawks are packaging him with 2 other players to get an elite pg. I guess there goes our chance of trying to get him for Sheed + Baby.

I don't get this. The contracts discussed here total around $17-$18 million. What elite point guard is out there with that kind of price tag?

Why not simply offer Bibby and some filler to Toronto for Calderon? Or Marvin Williams in a S&T for Ray Felton?

Smith does not need to be involved, unless there are personality issues. And now that his name has been mentioned in trade rumors, there will be.

While the rest of the league plays chess, the Hawks' front office is barely comfortable with the rudimentary elements of checkers.

First off, that just speculates that they're looking to add a PG. But the Hawks seem to be looking at more options than just PG.

Secondly, trading Smith for some financial flexibility will allow them to lock up Horford next offseason. And Horford is a PF, he plays out of position at the C spot - he's said publicly he wants to play PF but he can't because what are they gonna do with Smith. Seems they've decided to move forward with Horford and will see if they can fill some gaps with whatever they get for Smith.

It's not as dumb of a move as it seems to be at first glance.

So do we have a shot?

I mean we can give them Sheed and his contract will allow them to get the financial flexibility that they want + we would package Baby in the trade as well, but I doubt Atl would want to take on Baby.

[The Walker Wiggle]

This morning David Aldridge and Sekou Smith began to hedge on the Josh Smith trade talk.

There have been murmurs that the Hawks are shopping forward Josh Smith, who had one of his best seasons last year. However, a source with knowledge of the Hawks' thinking said that the team would only contemplate moving Smith for a major, star player at power forward.

...Also on the Shaq to Atlanta rumors and the Horford to power forward chatter.

The Hawks' interest in the 38-year-old O'Neal is "preliminary" and that the team, no matter what big man it brings in, has no intention of moving All-Star center Al Horford to power forward in any scenario.

[timepiece33]

Would Atlanta consider Kevin Garnett for Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia?   

Would you?   I probably wouldn't do it, but I probably would consider it.