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would you trade rondo for melo

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Offline BballTim

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Absolutely witout question without giving it a second thought.  This is a no brainer.  

Melo is the better player.  Melo plays a position that historically is far more important to winning titles.  Melo is still young and in his prime.  Melo provides a much better base to attract future players.  


  Aside from the fact that the "historical importance of positions" is basically bunk, how would small forward be historically more important than pg? When's the last time a small forward besides Larry Bird been the best player on a title team? Has it ever happened? Has any team with a really good small forward (aside from Pierce) won a title in the last 12 years?

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No with extreme prejudice.

Horrible defender, not a really good teammate, and a
knucklehead.  Oh and not the best playoff record to say the least..

I'll stick with Rondo and hope (expect) Pierce to return for a few more seasons.

- Position importance is most assuredly not bunk.

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Yes, I would. Have Nate (or some other 'veteran' pg...Iverson maybe??) play point, have Pierce play sg and have Ray come of the bench like Ginobili w/ the Spurs.

 We'd still have to find a decent back-up center though, so this is clearly only a theoretical situation...
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Yes, I would. Have Nate (or some other 'veteran' pg...Iverson maybe??) play point, have Pierce play sg and have Ray come of the bench like Ginobili w/ the Spurs.

 We'd still have to find a decent back-up center though, so this is clearly only a theoretical situation...

Yeah good mix there w/ Iverson and Melo. 
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Melo's the better player and one of the very best scorers in the league. Love the idea of him with the ball in his hands in the fourth quarter of a close playoff game. So yeah, I'd definitely make that deal.

And who would you like to replace Rondo with at the point and what would you do with Paul, let him go or come off the bench? 

I don't think Paul would want to come off the bench, which would mean that we would have to let him go.  Then we would be losing Paul and Rondo for Carmelo.

Well, this is all pure speculation - I wasn't thinking in terms of the current team's composition; just comparing the two players. That said, I'd happily bid Pierce goodbye if we could get Melo and figure out the PG position afterwards.

Who would you replace with Rondo?  

You mean - what PG would I seek out?

It's a good question, but the PG position is very healthy in the NBA right now. I think you'd have to explore a number of options - Chris Paul and Darren Collison in New Orleans, Devin Harris in NJ, Ty Lawson in Denver, Ricky Rubio's rights in Minnesota, Tony Parker in SA, etc.

Again, it's pure speculation but if you're locking in with Melo as your star, your PG may not need to be a star player. You may look for a second star at the #4/5 position, and your PG, like with so many title teams, could merely be serviceable.

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- Position importance is most assuredly not bunk.


  For players under 6'10", it pretty much is.

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- Position importance is most assuredly not bunk.


  For players under 6'10", it pretty much is.
Yup.

Height helps but its only part of basketball talent.

However a true dominant big is valuable in so many ways...

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- Position importance is most assuredly not bunk.


  For players under 6'10", it pretty much is.

I'll go with those guys and any real PG with elite skills like Rondo.  But too each his own.
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- Position importance is most assuredly not bunk.


  For players under 6'10", it pretty much is.
Yup.

Height helps but its only part of basketball talent.

However a true dominant big is valuable in so many ways...
When did the term "big man" remove the "man"?

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- Position importance is most assuredly not bunk.


  For players under 6'10", it pretty much is.

I'll go with those guys and any real PG with elite skills like Rondo.  But too each his own.
Positions are misleading, its more about what a player can do for his team.

LeBron is a better creator and passer than even Rondo, but he's a SF. Position is just a label, its all about what a player does on the court.

Offline Moranis

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Absolutely witout question without giving it a second thought.  This is a no brainer.  

Melo is the better player.  Melo plays a position that historically is far more important to winning titles.  Melo is still young and in his prime.  Melo provides a much better base to attract future players.  


  Aside from the fact that the "historical importance of positions" is basically bunk, how would small forward be historically more important than pg? When's the last time a small forward besides Larry Bird been the best player on a title team? Has it ever happened? Has any team with a really good small forward (aside from Pierce) won a title in the last 12 years?
in the last 12 years, no, but I don't see teams with really good PG's winning in that period either. 
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Offline Fafnir

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Absolutely witout question without giving it a second thought.  This is a no brainer.  

Melo is the better player.  Melo plays a position that historically is far more important to winning titles.  Melo is still young and in his prime.  Melo provides a much better base to attract future players.  


  Aside from the fact that the "historical importance of positions" is basically bunk, how would small forward be historically more important than pg? When's the last time a small forward besides Larry Bird been the best player on a title team? Has it ever happened? Has any team with a really good small forward (aside from Pierce) won a title in the last 12 years?
in the last 12 years, no, but I don't see teams with really good PG's winning in that period either. 
Billups was really good for Detroit, though not historically good.

Offline Mr October

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- Position importance is most assuredly not bunk.


  For players under 6'10", it pretty much is.
Yup.

Height helps but its only part of basketball talent.

However a true dominant big is valuable in so many ways...
When did the term "big man" remove the "man"?

hehe, I think ever since Doc became a coach in Boston.

Offline rkls134

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Absolutely witout question without giving it a second thought.  This is a no brainer.  

Melo is the better player.  Melo plays a position that historically is far more important to winning titles.  Melo is still young and in his prime.  Melo provides a much better base to attract future players.  


  Aside from the fact that the "historical importance of positions" is basically bunk, how would small forward be historically more important than pg? When's the last time a small forward besides Larry Bird been the best player on a title team? Has it ever happened? Has any team with a really good small forward (aside from Pierce) won a title in the last 12 years?

Who was the last PG who was the best player on the team, to win a title in the last 12 yrs? Billups is the only one that comes to mind.

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Absolutely witout question without giving it a second thought.  This is a no brainer.  

Melo is the better player.  Melo plays a position that historically is far more important to winning titles.  Melo is still young and in his prime.  Melo provides a much better base to attract future players.  


  Aside from the fact that the "historical importance of positions" is basically bunk, how would small forward be historically more important than pg? When's the last time a small forward besides Larry Bird been the best player on a title team? Has it ever happened? Has any team with a really good small forward (aside from Pierce) won a title in the last 12 years?
in the last 12 years, no, but I don't see teams with really good PG's winning in that period either. 

Great point.  The Lakers have won titles with Derek Fisher who is far from your "great" play-making point guard.  All he does is hang out behind the arc and shoot threes.  Michael Jordan had who, Ron Harper?  A domineering point guard is not a championship necessity.