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OKC, OKC
« on: June 28, 2010, 08:58:08 PM »

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Well, todays paper said that okc has too many centers competeing for too few positions.....what a deal..So, how do we make that work..giving up Ray Allen is not the way. That is our outside game, and we haven't fixed that either. Ray is good, but needs someone to cut his minutes, and be productive......But our inside game needs help too..KG, a perk type, and a rebounder/scoring type. Or at least a young 6'10" guy with energy and desire...!

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 09:02:14 PM »

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Well, todays paper said that okc has too many centers competeing for too few positions.....what a deal..So, how do we make that work..giving up Ray Allen is not the way. That is our outside game, and we haven't fixed that either. Ray is good, but needs someone to cut his minutes, and be productive......But our inside game needs help too..KG, a perk type, and a rebounder/scoring type. Or at least a young 6'10" guy with energy and desire...!

Collison or Krstic both have attractive contracts and could help the Celtics. Thing is, we have nothing to offer the Thunder.

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 09:06:04 PM »

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Depends on how much OKC needs to dump salary for this season.

I'd be interested in Collison who is owed something like 7 mil for this season, but I'd be surprised if Presti hands him to us in a pure salary dump....If for no other reason than he doesn't want to help us remedy our big man vacancy and have it come back to haunt him.

if OKC need the space to sign a FA, however, and nobody else is looking to give them relief, maybe they would take Sheed's contract and use to money to sign a key player.

They are below the cap and could go quite a bit below if they unloaded Collison's contract.

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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 09:07:02 PM »

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The Thunder have 2 centers who are merely solid roleplayers, and one rookie center who project to be a solid roleplayer.  They also have a project center who may or may not ever play significant minutes.

I wouldn't mind acquiring Collison, but I doubt we really have anything to offer the Thunder they'd like for him.  Plus, I've read that Sam Presti likes Collison a lot (Presti values character very highly).  I'm not particularly interested in Nenad Krstic or Byron Mullens.  Obviously Cole Aldrich is off the table.
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Re: OKC, OKC
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 09:11:41 PM »

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Depends on how much OKC needs to dump salary for this season.

I'd be interested in Collison who is owed something like 7 mil for this season, but I'd be surprised if Presti hands him to us in a pure salary dump....If for no other reason than he doesn't want to help us remedy our big man vacancy and have it come back to haunt him.

if OKC need the space to sign a FA, however, and nobody else is looking to give them relief, maybe they would take Sheed's contract and use to money to sign a key player.

They are below the cap and could go quite a bit below if they unloaded Collison's contract.

Seeing as though they have a full roster at $49 million and just absorbed Morris Peterson, I doubt they're looking to dump anything.

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 09:12:12 PM »

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I dont see a minutes problem there. Krstic And Ibaka seam to be fine as the centers.

I like Collison too. Not sure if he can play undersized 5 OK or not. But I think the Celtics should keep looking. I have a feeling there is a good chance they will find what they want using the retiring Sheed contract after the free agent fireworks get going in a week and a half.

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 09:22:20 PM »

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I dont see a minutes problem there. Krstic And Ibaka seam to be fine as the centers.

I like Collison too. Not sure if he can play undersized 5 OK or not. But I think the Celtics should keep looking. I have a feeling there is a good chance they will find what they want using the retiring Sheed contract after the free agent fireworks get going in a week and a half.

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 09:30:20 PM »

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Ive heard several analysts and a few media people say that OKC is in need of a few veteran players...to help this team get passed the Lakers. Maybe they go after a guy like Shaq,he could teach them a lot.

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 09:31:55 PM »

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Ive heard several analysts and a few media people say that OKC is in need of a few veteran players...to help this team get passed the Lakers.

Hmm... If anything I'd say they need more length to have any shot at getting by the Lakers.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 09:32:57 PM »

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Ive heard several analysts and a few media people say that OKC is in need of a few veteran players...to help this team get passed the Lakers.

Hmm... If anything I'd say they need more length to have any shot at getting by the Lakers.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 10:07:46 PM »

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Depends on how much OKC needs to dump salary for this season.

I'd be interested in Collison who is owed something like 7 mil for this season, but I'd be surprised if Presti hands him to us in a pure salary dump....If for no other reason than he doesn't want to help us remedy our big man vacancy and have it come back to haunt him.

if OKC need the space to sign a FA, however, and nobody else is looking to give them relief, maybe they would take Sheed's contract and use to money to sign a key player.

They are below the cap and could go quite a bit below if they unloaded Collison's contract.

Seeing as though they have a full roster at $49 million and just absorbed Morris Peterson, I doubt they're looking to dump anything.

I'd actually look at absorbing MoPete as a reason they WOULD be looking to dump salary. They took on his contract to get Aldrich. Now, they could be looking to unload salary to get in on a pretty stacked FA market.....

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 10:11:09 PM »

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Ive heard several analysts and a few media people say that OKC is in need of a few veteran players...to help this team get passed the Lakers.

Hmm... If anything I'd say they need more length to have any shot at getting by the Lakers.

but is that what Collison gives you?

with Green, Aldrich, Krstic, Mullens, and Ibaka. I think it is at least possible that OKC would be willing to move Collison..

in terms of the Cs, though, it would have to be in order to get in on FA market because our chip they might want is Sheed's contract

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 10:16:31 PM »

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Depends on how much OKC needs to dump salary for this season.

I'd be interested in Collison who is owed something like 7 mil for this season, but I'd be surprised if Presti hands him to us in a pure salary dump....If for no other reason than he doesn't want to help us remedy our big man vacancy and have it come back to haunt him.

if OKC need the space to sign a FA, however, and nobody else is looking to give them relief, maybe they would take Sheed's contract and use to money to sign a key player.

They are below the cap and could go quite a bit below if they unloaded Collison's contract.

Seeing as though they have a full roster at $49 million and just absorbed Morris Peterson, I doubt they're looking to dump anything.

I'd actually look at absorbing MoPete as a reason they WOULD be looking to dump salary. They took on his contract to get Aldrich. Now, they could be looking to unload salary to get in on a pretty stacked FA market.....

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Ive heard several analysts and a few media people say that OKC is in need of a few veteran players...to help this team get passed the Lakers.

Hmm... If anything I'd say they need more length to have any shot at getting by the Lakers.

but is that what Collison gives you?

with Green, Aldrich, Krstic, Mullens, and Ibaka. I think it is at least possible that OKC would be willing to move Collison..

in terms of the Cs, though, it would have to be in order to get in on FA market because our chip they might want is Sheed's contract


Both are good points and a logical theories. David Lee or Luis Scola would be a great pickup for them.

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 10:31:57 PM »

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Depends on how much OKC needs to dump salary for this season.

I'd be interested in Collison who is owed something like 7 mil for this season, but I'd be surprised if Presti hands him to us in a pure salary dump....If for no other reason than he doesn't want to help us remedy our big man vacancy and have it come back to haunt him.

if OKC need the space to sign a FA, however, and nobody else is looking to give them relief, maybe they would take Sheed's contract and use to money to sign a key player.

They are below the cap and could go quite a bit below if they unloaded Collison's contract.

Seeing as though they have a full roster at $49 million and just absorbed Morris Peterson, I doubt they're looking to dump anything.

I'd actually look at absorbing MoPete as a reason they WOULD be looking to dump salary. They took on his contract to get Aldrich. Now, they could be looking to unload salary to get in on a pretty stacked FA market.....

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Ive heard several analysts and a few media people say that OKC is in need of a few veteran players...to help this team get passed the Lakers.

Hmm... If anything I'd say they need more length to have any shot at getting by the Lakers.

but is that what Collison gives you?

with Green, Aldrich, Krstic, Mullens, and Ibaka. I think it is at least possible that OKC would be willing to move Collison..

in terms of the Cs, though, it would have to be in order to get in on FA market because our chip they might want is Sheed's contract


Both are good points and a logical theories. David Lee or Luis Scola would be a great pickup for them.

Wasn't there some OKC courting of Lee last off season?

You're right about those guys, though. They are like better versions of Collison.

how much cap space do think they would need to land either of those guys?

If they could dump Collison's contract, they would have about 11 or 12 million to spend, right?

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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 11:06:30 PM »

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Well, todays paper said that okc has too many centers competeing for too few positions.....what a deal..So, how do we make that work..giving up Ray Allen is not the way. That is our outside game, and we haven't fixed that either. Ray is good, but needs someone to cut his minutes, and be productive......But our inside game needs help too..KG, a perk type, and a rebounder/scoring type. Or at least a young 6'10" guy with energy and desire...!

Collison or Krstic both have attractive contracts and could help the Celtics. Thing is, we have nothing to offer the Thunder.
I'm not so sure about that.  Do we have a lot to offer - no, but we might have a player or two that they'd like. 

The one player that comes to mind immediately as an attractive option for OKC is Tony Allen.  Someone posted that three Western Conference contenders are interested in his services, and while the Thunder may not yet be a contender, they are coming on strong.  LA got Artest to handle guys like Durant, Pierce, Melo, LeBron, etc, so why wouldn't OKC acquire a player in Tony Allen who would serve the same purpose?  Granted I don't like Tony, but his defense on Kobe, Wade, LeBron was excellent, if not exceptional.  The tricky part is getting what we want, and need, from the Thunder in return for TA.  Ideally, this would be the future 1st round pick acquired from the Clippers in a deal for Eric Bledsoe, as well as Morris Peterson - good shooter, has been a good defender in the past, can spell both Ray and Paul, etc.  Now I'm quite sure that OKC won't part with the Clipper's pick, but why not ask about it (at least you've explored the option)?  I mean, if we could get that pick and Mo Pete for Tony, Baby and Perk, that would be an absolute steal for us.  Perk's history against Gasol might be too tempting for a young team like the Thunder to pass up - even with his injury.  Plus, both he and Baby's contracts expire after next year, meaning they could save even more money.  None of this will happen, but it's just a thought.