Who is the Celtic's Finals MVP Thus Far

[housecall]

Thus far i say Glen Big Baby Davis has been the most consistent&productive with his play.Do i think he will win it(MVP),absolutely not.

[guava_wrench]

Pierce has been the most consistent producer, not in terms of impact, but statistical production.

Ray has had one godly half.

KG has one dominant game, as has Rondo, who has come down to earth since Game 3 of the ECF.

I would say Pierce is still the MVP because no other Celtic has clearly set himself apart to take it away.

I think Big Baby has been the most consistent player of this series.  No other player has given more than one good game.  Baby, while a bench player, has given a consistent performance off the bench in each of the games, with the last game being his best.  I don't think the MVP has to be a starter.  But I think if a starter is to get it, he'll have to do something in the next two games.

I can't agree with Baby. The reason Baby gets the press he does is because he is coming off the bench. If he was a starter, we would have higher expectations and wouldn't be as impressed. Look at his stats for each game. Not particularly impressive. He's averaging 10.25 PPG 4.5 RPG 16-31 FG.

If he steps up production, perhaps he could be in the running, but he isn't there yet.

I would be cautious of thinking of this in terms of per minute productivity since it doesn't seem reasonable to assume that the bench players can keep up the same intensity level over starter minutes.

[PosImpos]

Pierce has been the most consistent producer, not in terms of impact, but statistical production.

Ray has had one godly half.

KG has one dominant game, as has Rondo, who has come down to earth since Game 3 of the ECF.

I would say Pierce is still the MVP because no other Celtic has clearly set himself apart to take it away.

I think Big Baby has been the most consistent player of this series.  No other player has given more than one good game.  Baby, while a bench player, has given a consistent performance off the bench in each of the games, with the last game being his best.  I don't think the MVP has to be a starter.  But I think if a starter is to get it, he'll have to do something in the next two games.

I can't agree with Baby. The reason Baby gets the press he does is because he is coming off the bench. If he was a starter, we would have higher expectations and wouldn't be as impressed. Look at his stats for each game. Not particularly impressive. He's averaging 10.25 PPG 4.5 RPG 16-31 FG.

If he steps up production, perhaps he could be in the running, but he isn't there yet.

I would be cautious of thinking of this in terms of per minute productivity since it doesn't seem reasonable to assume that the bench players can keep up the same intensity level over starter minutes.

Big Baby would have to score 20+ points and grab more than 5 rebounds in 2 of the next 3 games in order to get Finals MVP.

[Spilling Green Dye]

It's safe to assume that the finals MVP will be from the team who wins the Championship.

No team has won yet, so it's impossible to say.

Of the Celtics now, there are no definitive standouts.

Glen Davis, as well as he's played off the bench when Bynum isn't in the game, is not and will not be the MVP. 

Above all, the thing I like most about this team is the "MVP" title is someone different every night.  If it were up to me, I'd fore go giving the award out b/c this is more of a team win (so far) than any "team" I've seen in the finals the past 10-20 years!

[Bahku]

At this point I'd have to say Paul, mainly for his intense defense, but the sixth man would have to be Big Baby, without a doubt.

[mmbaby]

Bahku, what happened to your tommy points? I'm going to have to give you a bunch.
I certainly don't agree with the poster who said Baby is doing good as a bench, but more would be expected of him as a starter!!! Huh? He, ahem, has been playing better than the starters usually. He is consistently consistent. And the more mintues he gets the more points he gets. When he shoots 90% or better in the short minutes he gets, I'd have to say he's doing just a wee bit better than the starters. And his incredible and awesome defense and all the other things he does to keep the game in our favor does but barely show in the number stats you use.
Give it up! He has proved you and the small minority of bashers here wrong. So eat your crow. 

[LB3533]

What did Maxwell do to win his 1981 Finals MVP?

1981 -- Cedric Maxwell, Boston
Averaged 17.7 points, 9.5 rebounds and 2.8 assists per game in the Celtics’ 4-2 victory over the Houston Rockets.

http://www.nba.com/history/finalsmvps.html


He was certainly closer to 20 and 10 then Baby's current 10 and 5.

Baby would need to average closer to 30/15 (33/18 to be sure) in the next 3 games to bring his 10/5 up to 20/10.

33/18.....that's very unlikely and guess what? That's extremely far away.

You also have to put things into context. Baby is a bench player.

Even if you average 20/10 as a bench player...a star Starter, more often than not, will also average around those numbers.

And because that player is a "star" and a Starter, he's going to win the MVP if he had the same 20/10 stats.

This is why Baby has to have Starters play beneath their potential.

On another note: People talk about how dominant Jordan was in the Finals....Look at Shaq's numbers in the 3 Lakers' Finals. Those overall numbers are insane...probably the most overall dominating Finals production ever.

 

[Birdbrain]

No one has been MVP so far, so whomever plays the best if Boston wins from here out will probably get it.  If Pierce doesn't win it I'll be hoping they give it the TEAM which is probably something they can't do.  There is some amazing stat I heard the other day about the leading scorer not being the same in 2 consective Boston play off games in like 20 games or so.  If that doesn't spell TEAM I don't know what does.

[Drucci]

No one has been MVP so far, so whomever plays the best if Boston wins from here out will probably get it.  If Pierce doesn't win it I'll be hoping they give it the TEAM which is probably something they can't do.  There is some amazing stat I heard the other day about the leading scorer not being the same in 2 consective Boston play off games in like 20 games or so.  If that doesn't spell TEAM I don't know what does.

You're right, if once again no player distinguises himself from the others in the next games, and if we win it, the team would clearly deserve it. How awesome would it be to give the trophy to the entire team? It has never happened before but it would be truly adequate for this squad!

[zerophase]

I really feel that if we win we should give it to Garnett. This same team without him wouldn't have been able to make it out of the 2nd round. While his numbers may not be MVP like, his presence sure is most valuable on our team.

[Spilling Green Dye]

I really feel that if we win we should give it to Garnett. This same team without him wouldn't have been able to make it out of the 2nd round. While his numbers may not be MVP like, his presence sure is most valuable on our team.

I've thought this too.  He's been valuable in this series, but he's been enormously valuable in making the Celtics a contender the past 3 years.  He has my vote so far, but the Celtics need to win first!

[Spilling Green Dye]

On another note: People talk about how dominant Jordan was in the Finals....Look at Shaq's numbers in the 3 Lakers' Finals. Those overall numbers are insane...probably the most overall dominating Finals production ever.
 

I know!  I went to look at Kobe's stats during those 3 championships, and couldn't help but to notice how absurdly dominant Shaq's #s were.  As far as Kobe goes, his #'s were rather weak those 3 championships.. it wasn't even close to say that Kobe contributed anywhere near as much as Shaq.

For those wondering, in 2000 Shaq averaged in the playoffs:
38.0 PPG, 16.7 Rebs, 2.7 blocks, 61% shooting

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=FinalsPerformances-8

[Birdbrain]

I really feel that if we win we should give it to Garnett. This same team without him wouldn't have been able to make it out of the 2nd round. While his numbers may not be MVP like, his presence sure is most valuable on our team.

That's a valid point and one I can get behind as well.  It also enhances my belief in this would our 3 peat season.

[clover]

I really feel that if we win we should give it to Garnett. This same team without him wouldn't have been able to make it out of the 2nd round. While his numbers may not be MVP like, his presence sure is most valuable on our team.

That's a valid point and one I can get behind as well.  It also enhances my belief in this would our 3 peat season.

And this team wouldn't have made it by Miami without Rondo.

[LB3533]

Here's an interesting article on Finals MVPs.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6431