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imagine if boston would have traded ray allen?
« on: June 07, 2010, 08:14:43 PM »

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looking back...that might be the most important thing that didn't happen....i really want to see ray finish a celtic. he is pure class on and off the court....he is what being a boston celtic is all about
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 08:22:00 PM »

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i was 100% in favor of trading ray, not because i did not love him as a player, but just because this team looked dead for much of the season, and he was the only viable, valuable trade chip, primarily because of his salary and expiring contract.

but he is a tremendous player, a class act, and we obviously are not here without him.
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Re: imagine if boston would have traded ray allen?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2010, 08:23:00 PM »

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I was really pushing for it, but I'm glad it didn't happen. I can't believe the man is 34 nearing 35. He looks like he's in his mid twenties out there.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 08:26:04 PM »

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I never wanted to trade Ray, unless there was a trade that made us younger *and* better (or at least even).  That trade wasn't out there, and Danny made the smart move by standing pat.

I never understood the hand-wringing about not making a move.  There wasn't a player better than Ray on the market, and the guys who were about at his level weren't available.
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Re: imagine if boston would have traded ray allen?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 08:27:01 PM »

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.... nah, I'll pass.

Never was in favor of it.  Can't really say why, but as much as any player we have or have had in recent years, I really want Ray to retire a Celtic.  He is just, well, a real Celtic.



[EDIT]... ALTHOUGHHHHHHHH, I still think it would be a SICK move to start Tony and bring Ray in as the best 6th man since the man who invented the 6th man, Hondo.  Would eff them up right off the bat.  Thought it was worth a try during the reg season, but probably too risky now.[/EDIT]
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 08:35:19 PM »

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You guys remember how Ray was playing back then?

Imagine if he had continued to play that way?

What if the C's were sitting at home and Jamison was helping Lebron battle in the ECF?

Hey, I am glad we kept Ray. I never wanted him traded and still want him signed 3 yr/36 million.

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 08:42:14 PM »

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I was on board trades that made sense and made the team better.


I was not on board with trades just to trade.



At this point, I am glad Ray is a Celtic.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 08:49:13 PM »

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I got suckered in the trade Ray Allen squad. Originally I was dead set against. Everyone was advocating 'Rebuilding' looking ahead with youth movement as if the season was over. Looking back, We all look like fools.

This is yet another example that Fans know little to nothing. C's fan are lucky to have a competent GM & Coach. And a great team to go along with.

Thank You Ray

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 08:52:59 PM »

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I will add this:



I think Ainge needs to explore all sign and trade options with Ray Allen this offseason after the Celtics win it all.


Not because Ray is not playing at a high level, but because it is the smart thing to do with all older players.  Shop, but only buy when the price is right.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 08:56:10 PM »

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Never was on board to trade Ray...for some reason I don't want to trade any of the big 3. I know it might sound silly and all, but these guys got us a championship after 22 yrs and deserve to retire as a Celtic.

Having said that...props to D. Angie and Doc for always believing in the team.
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2010, 09:09:34 PM »

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No. C'mon! If this team wins you bring them back no matter what. Even at this point, you have to bring the team back and give them another chance.

Who knows, KG might not be fully recovered yet,Rondo is getting better, and perk, give them a chance to defend the title.

You don't blow up a team that won the title. That's just flat out STUPID.

Look at what Orlando did, made it too the final, thought they made moves that would have put them over the top, and it failed. You don't blow up a good thing.

This starting 5 has still never lost a playoff series you dont throw that away. They've proved they still got it.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2010, 09:18:09 PM »

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Seriously, nobody posting so far was on board with trading Ray? All the Kevin Martin, Monta Ellis, Andre Iguodala, and Caron Butler talk was on here for a reason. I am very happy Ray turned it around after the deadline, but at the time, any of those guys I listed above would have made many of us happy.

Ray clearly needs something for which to play- just like KG, Pierce, Sheed, and Rondo. The playoffs lit a fire under this team and I am just happy we have a chance at all of this again- and also hope we can sign Ray again for another couple of years.
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2010, 09:19:40 PM »

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Quote from: bobdelt on June 07, 2010, 09:09:34 PM
No. C'mon! If this team wins you bring them back no matter what. Even at this point, you have to bring the team back and give them another chance.

Who knows, KG might not be fully recovered yet,Rondo is getting better, and perk, give them a chance to defend the title.

You don't blow up a team that won the title. That's just flat out STUPID.

Look at what Orlando did, made it too the final, thought they made moves that would have put them over the top, and it failed. You don't blow up a good thing.

This starting 5 has still never lost a playoff series you dont throw that away. They've proved they still got it.

Completely agree. I don't why People are fascinated with 'Rebuilding'. What's the allure? Ray would still be making 3's long after Rondo retires. Starting 5 chemistry is priceless. You can tweak the team with the draft (#19) and using the MLE wisely & give another shot at contending.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 09:26:28 PM »

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... ALTHOUGHHHHHHHH, I still think it would be a SICK move to start Tony and bring Ray in as the best 6th man since the man who invented the 6th man, Hondo.  Would eff them up right off the bat.  Thought it was worth a try during the reg season, but probably too risky now.

I wouldn't like this move.  Rondo and Tony playing together would be atrocious for our spacing, as both are very poor jump shooters.  Perk isn't a shooter, either, and KG doesn't have three point range.  That would leave Pierce as the only deep shooter on the floor.

At the same time, the second unit -- especially as it's constructed now -- doesn't need Ray's shooting quite as much, with Rasheed and Nate (and at times, Finley.)
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Re: imagine if boston would have traded ray allen?
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 10:14:24 PM »

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Sure, I'll imagine away:

Imagine if Boston would have traded Ray Allen (say to the Wizards for Butler) and then Ray was bought out and ended up back with the Celtics (sort of like what happened with Zydrunas Ilgauskas).

Then the Cs would be younger going into the future AND still have Ray Allen to be the Laker killer that he is.

Heck, Cs might be up 2-0 on the Lakers at this point, thanks to the gallant efforts of Caron Butler.  Who's to say otherwise?  In fact, there'd be a similar post up on celticsblog saying "Imagine if Boston hadn't traded (and then re-signed) Ray Allen?"
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