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Bigs Rotation for Game 6?
« on: May 26, 2010, 11:50:40 PM »

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Assuming Rasheed Wallace, Glen Davis and Kendrick Perkins are out..what does our bigs rotation look like (for that game)?

PF: Shelden Williams
C: KG

And then..reactive Scal??

Boy I hope those techs are rescinded.  I also hope Rasheed is ok.  If both are gone, we are in serious trouble.

Even if only one of Rasheed Wallace or Perk plays, who is going to be our backup center?!

We may be in for a long Game 6, folks..
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Re: Bigs Rotation for Game 6?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 11:52:53 PM »

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I didn't watch the game ... why would those three bigs be out?

Was their a fight of some kind?

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 11:59:34 PM »

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I didn't watch the game ... why would those three bigs be out?

Was their a fight of some kind?

BBD was hit by Dwight Howard's left elbow.  He was woozy and tripping all over the place.  He had a bad concussion. (Marquis Daniels also had a concussion, but that's another story)

Rasheed Wallace hurt his back while putting in a layup late in the game.  He went to the locker room after his sixth foul.

Kendrick Perkins had his first Technical around the midway point of the Second Quarter.  He was helping Pierce up and their hands slipped.  His elbow jerked back and hit Gortat.  Gortat retaliated with a jab at the ball - Double Tech.  A couple minutes later, Perkins is hit with a phantom call (that even Dwight Howard thought was clean, as he started running the other way without a complaint).  He turns around to look at the ref with a shocked look, turns around and walks away verbally expressing his unhappiness with the call.  The ref T's him up, and he's out.  The problem with the second one was that he was not walking towards the referee or anyone in particular.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2010, 12:01:33 AM »

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i see no way perk is suspended. both T's are so clearly bogus. but no way BBD plays, and i'm not sure sheed is going to be 100%. he seemed to be in a decent amount of pain, and backs are tricky things.

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2010, 12:02:52 AM »

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Don't think we loose as much as people are thinking. Perk will be back. BBD will not. Shelden is capable of filling in and Scal will be activated. Don't like Scal because although he can defend Lewis, we loose rebounding and scoring. I think that Shelden will give us better balance and although we loose BBD's shooting, we get a better shot blocker, rebounder and finisher who can draw some fouls.

Daniels was not playing that much (we have Finley and TA). Sheed would be a lose if his back remains a problem.

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 12:09:11 AM »

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Don't think we loose as much as people are thinking. Perk will be back. BBD will not. Shelden is capable of filling in and Scal will be activated. Don't like Scal because although he can defend Lewis, we loose rebounding and scoring. I think that Shelden will give us better balance and although we loose BBD's shooting, we get a better shot blocker, rebounder and finisher who can draw some fouls.

Daniels was not playing that much (we have Finley and TA). Sheed would be a lose if his back remains a problem.

Our centers rotation worries me the most. If only one of KP or Sheed comes back, how will we counter Howard? Hack-a-Howard with Shelden Williams?
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 12:13:33 AM »

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I definitely would activate Scals. We need someone else to throw at Lewis. Pierce is not a good match up for him.

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 12:17:45 AM »

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We're gonna be seeing a lot more of Shelden and Scal.

Hooray.

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Don't think we loose as much as people are thinking.

Loose = "That knot I tied is too loose."

Lose = "If the Celtics lose another game I'm going to break my hand punching the wall."


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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2010, 12:19:31 AM »

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Don't think we loose as much as people are thinking. Perk will be back. BBD will not. Shelden is capable of filling in and Scal will be activated. Don't like Scal because although he can defend Lewis, we loose rebounding and scoring. I think that Shelden will give us better balance and although we loose BBD's shooting, we get a better shot blocker, rebounder and finisher who can draw some fouls.

Daniels was not playing that much (we have Finley and TA). Sheed would be a lose if his back remains a problem.

Our centers rotation worries me the most. If only one of KP or Sheed comes back, how will we counter Howard? Hack-a-Howard with Shelden Williams?

after this game, if howard isn't called for a lot more stuff in game 6, something is seriously wrong. unless the fix is in, i see no chance the refs let him get away with his dirty play in boston.

Re: Bigs Rotation for Game 6?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 12:27:51 AM »

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Don't think we loose as much as people are thinking. Perk will be back. BBD will not. Shelden is capable of filling in and Scal will be activated. Don't like Scal because although he can defend Lewis, we loose rebounding and scoring. I think that Shelden will give us better balance and although we loose BBD's shooting, we get a better shot blocker, rebounder and finisher who can draw some fouls.

Daniels was not playing that much (we have Finley and TA). Sheed would be a lose if his back remains a problem.

Our centers rotation worries me the most. If only one of KP or Sheed comes back, how will we counter Howard? Hack-a-Howard with Shelden Williams?

after this game, if howard isn't called for a lot more stuff in game 6, something is seriously wrong. unless the fix is in, i see no chance the refs let him get away with his dirty play in boston.

That was definitely an issue for me today.  The guy was called for only two fouls all game, while our three centers were called for a combined 8(?) in the first half alone.  

If we follow your thinking, Game 6 is a must-win because Dwight Howard will get away with murder in Game 7.

Winning game 6 also seems much harder with the potential Center rotation we are looking at, yet if it's a must-win game, we need to take it regardless of who's playing.

Guess we'll see what our guys are made of in this next game..
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2010, 12:30:43 AM »

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Don't think we loose as much as people are thinking. Perk will be back. BBD will not. Shelden is capable of filling in and Scal will be activated. Don't like Scal because although he can defend Lewis, we loose rebounding and scoring. I think that Shelden will give us better balance and although we loose BBD's shooting, we get a better shot blocker, rebounder and finisher who can draw some fouls.

Daniels was not playing that much (we have Finley and TA). Sheed would be a lose if his back remains a problem.

Our centers rotation worries me the most. If only one of KP or Sheed comes back, how will we counter Howard? Hack-a-Howard with Shelden Williams?

after this game, if howard isn't called for a lot more stuff in game 6, something is seriously wrong. unless the fix is in, i see no chance the refs let him get away with his dirty play in boston.
Sadly, Howard did nothing wrong when Baby got that elbow. If you stand under a rebounder, get ready to get hammered. That is the problem with defending Howard with an undersized PF.

I have suffered similar myself from standing under rebounders. No concussion, but cuts on the top of my head. Hard to blame a rebounder for strongly securing a rebound.

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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2010, 12:34:17 AM »

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Don't think we loose as much as people are thinking. Perk will be back. BBD will not. Shelden is capable of filling in and Scal will be activated. Don't like Scal because although he can defend Lewis, we loose rebounding and scoring. I think that Shelden will give us better balance and although we loose BBD's shooting, we get a better shot blocker, rebounder and finisher who can draw some fouls.

Daniels was not playing that much (we have Finley and TA). Sheed would be a lose if his back remains a problem.

Our centers rotation worries me the most. If only one of KP or Sheed comes back, how will we counter Howard? Hack-a-Howard with Shelden Williams?

after this game, if howard isn't called for a lot more stuff in game 6, something is seriously wrong. unless the fix is in, i see no chance the refs let him get away with his dirty play in boston.

That was definitely an issue for me today.  The guy was called for only two fouls all game, while our three centers were called for a combined 8(?). 

If we follow your thinking, Game 6 is a must-win because Dwight Howard will get away with murder in Game 7.

Winning game 6 also seems much harder with the potential Center rotation we are looking at, yet if it's a must-win game, we need to take it regardless of who's playing.

Guess we'll see what our guys are made of in this next game..
Gortat got called for 3 fouls.

How many of the fouls against the Centers were called defending Howard?

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 12:37:19 AM »

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My gut says Sheed's fine, Baby is out indefinitely, and Perk has one tech rescinded and plays. Scal will dress no question about it. In the past when situations like this have come up Doc has simply shortened his bigs rotation and tried to live with 3. That's not going to be possible because they need to be able to foul liberally and Sheed and Perk are just too prone to getting in foul trouble. Plus, as we saw tonight Pierce at the 4 doesn't work - Lewis will abuse him in the post. If Lewis is in the game and the starting bigs are resting I think Scal must get the call because Shelden would be toast against Rashard. If anyone other than Rashard is in the game at the 4 (especially if it's the twin towers lineup), it's got to be Shelden in there because a Sheed/Scal combo is a horrible rebounding duo. The key if Scal plays is that Rondo and the wings help out on the boards, and Sheed rebounds better than normal. We got crushed on the glass tonight, with no Celtic grabbing more than 5 boards, and it's going to be even tougher to rebound without Big Baby.


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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2010, 12:44:28 AM »

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I have full confidence that Tony Gaffney could shut Lewis down, but I know Doc would never play him in a game of this magnitude.