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Re: What Does Nate Do?
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2010, 07:25:20 PM »

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If I were Nate and the benching that he got for the four games that cost me a million dollar bonus had not been already discussed I would throw the ball away at the most inopportune time of the playoffs that I could find. If it were discussed and alreadya  part of the trade then ok but if the C's organazation had screwed me out of a million dollar bonus just to do it then they wouldnt get much out of me the rest of the season and what they got they wouldnt like one bit. I am not sticking up for Nate, just putting myself in his shoes.

Re: What Does Nate Do?
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2010, 09:41:34 PM »

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Nate would never penalize his fans and teammates for a MANAGEMENT decision. That would be despicable.

Also, he would completely wreck his value for the rest of his career if he did something like that.
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Re: What Does Nate Do?
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2010, 10:30:04 PM »

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If I were Nate and the benching that he got for the four games that cost me a million dollar bonus had not been already discussed I would throw the ball away at the most inopportune time of the playoffs that I could find. If it were discussed and alreadya  part of the trade then ok but if the C's organazation had screwed me out of a million dollar bonus just to do it then they wouldnt get much out of me the rest of the season and what they got they wouldnt like one bit. I am not sticking up for Nate, just putting myself in his shoes.

First, as GranTur said, that would get Nate black-balled for the rest of his career.

Second, Nate isn't making it into a meaningful playoff situation.

Third, the Celts had every right to sit Nate at the end of the season; they don't owe him anything.  Once it became clear that he wasn't going to be in the playoff rotation, the team did the right thing in giving minutes to guys who would be.

Lastly, Nate wasn't "screwed out of" the money.  There were certain preconditions that needed to be met, which he agreed to.  Those prerequisites weren't fulfilled, in large part because Nate couldn't fit in with his team in New York (causing him to be benched for multiple weeks).  Robinson had to play in 58 games to earn his bonus; the Celts sat him in *two* of them in early April (after he had to sit out due to illness at the beginning of his tenure.)

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Re: What Does Nate Do?
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2010, 10:47:57 PM »

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If I were Nate and the benching that he got for the four games that cost me a million dollar bonus had not been already discussed I would throw the ball away at the most inopportune time of the playoffs that I could find. If it were discussed and alreadya  part of the trade then ok but if the C's organazation had screwed me out of a million dollar bonus just to do it then they wouldnt get much out of me the rest of the season and what they got they wouldnt like one bit. I am not sticking up for Nate, just putting myself in his shoes.

First, as GranTur said, that would get Nate black-balled for the rest of his career.

Second, Nate isn't making it into a meaningful playoff situation.

Third, the Celts had every right to sit Nate at the end of the season; they don't owe him anything.  Once it became clear that he wasn't going to be in the playoff rotation, the team did the right thing in giving minutes to guys who would be.

Lastly, Nate wasn't "screwed out of" the money.  There were certain preconditions that needed to be met, which he agreed to.  Those prerequisites weren't fulfilled, in large part because Nate couldn't fit in with his team in New York (causing him to be benched for multiple weeks).  Robinson had to play in 58 games to earn his bonus; the Celts sat him in *two* of them in early April (after he had to sit out due to illness at the beginning of his tenure.)

To piggy-back on this I assume the purpose of the bonus was a reward for helping to get the Knicks into playoffs. He didn't earn it there so he shouldn't be owed the bonus by the Celtics just because he was traded here. We were already a playoff team before he got here.
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Re: What Does Nate Do?
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2010, 11:01:47 PM »

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Yeah, if that was the reason for the bonus then you're right. If not though and it was a bonus for playing in a certain number of games, which is what I had read, then the C's should be ashamed of benching the man to save the money. If it was a part of the negoitation to bring him here then that is different.

Re: What Does Nate Do?
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2010, 11:55:00 PM »

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Yeah, if that was the reason for the bonus then you're right. If not though and it was a bonus for playing in a certain number of games, which is what I had read, then the C's should be ashamed of benching the man to save the money. If it was a part of the negoitation to bring him here then that is different.

You're putting too much into this bonus. Part of the reason Nate didn't get it in the first place is because he was sat out for pretty much all of December. Then, when he was traded with the Celtics, he didn't fit in with the team, nickagenta posted the link confirming that the Celtics privately questioned his immaturity, and now, as you can see, he's not even on the Celtics playoff rotation.

Since he's not even playing in the playoffs now, it's simply hilarious, to me, to think the C's sat him out of so many regular season games simply to "save money". He was sat out cause he wasn't contributing.