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Re: timberwolves will deal picks
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2010, 12:12:09 PM »

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I have no interest in trading Perk at this point.

I AM interested in the idea of buying a late 1st round pick, either from Minny or Memphis.  Here's to Danny finding another Rajon Rondo-like gem in the 20s....
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Re: timberwolves will deal picks
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2010, 12:17:50 PM »

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trading perkins is like championship sucide.  he is our kryptonite to defeat the 2 who claim to be superman; dwight and shaq
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Re: timberwolves will deal picks
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2010, 12:18:22 PM »

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I hate what they did with their picks last year.  They should have picked Curry to play with Jefferson/Love instead of the two small point guards.

I really like thr Rubio pick, but agree Flynn over Curry was odd to say the least. It's like they forgot they drafted Foye a few year before.

I'd rather trade into the 10-15 ranage to get Udoh..
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Re: timberwolves will deal picks
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2010, 12:21:15 PM »

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to me our trade fodder should be davis & 'sheed
unless i'm wrong aren't we going to have a fair amount of free agents to resign or let go
daniels, robinson, tony allen, finley, scal, ray allen
with the cap space we would have to let some guys walk can't we just go after whatever player we need via free agency and let danny do his homework on late picks?
keep perk he's only 25 or so

Re: timberwolves will deal picks
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2010, 12:22:25 PM »

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i've been listening David Kahn who said that they are going to make a lot of changes this  summer. He was worried about defense. Love and Jefferson are really good offensive players but not good defenders. So i thought can we offer Perk for the 4th pick? T-wolves have also 2others first round picks and they are young they don't need another young players now they need more  expirienced players. Last year they traded Ty Lawson to Denver and i believe they will trade picks for sure.

If you're talking about his interview on NBATV with Rick Kamla, I don't believe Kahn said anything about the Wolves' considering trading the #4 pick.

Yes, he did admit that defensively, the frontcourt combo of Love and Jefferson lacks the length that other Western teams boast (Kahn cited both the Lakers and Blazers as particularly problematic for the Wolves).

It's entirely possible they leverage the #16 and/or #23 picks to make a personnel change, but I would have a hard time seeing Kahn and the Wolves pass on Wesley Johnson or Evan Turner.
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2010, 12:59:04 PM »

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We need Perk if we're going to continue to try and win with this core moving forward. If we're going to blow it up and rebuild after this year we should consider it. I think the direction we go should depend on whether or not we win Banner 18 this year. If we win the Chip fix whatever flaws we see and try again next year. If we don't win the championship we should start preparing to surround Rondo with legitimate talent for the future.

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2010, 02:20:33 PM »

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I wonder if Minnesota will try to move up in the draft, maybe trade with Philly in a deal that involves Igoudala and Love.

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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2010, 02:23:14 PM »

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Oh, Kahn also mentioned in that interview that Darko had a very positive experience in Minnesota, and that he wants to come back.

They are also going to check in with Pecovic this summer, who is playing in Greece (IIRC), to see if he might be ready to join the team this coming season.
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2010, 02:24:23 PM »

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trading perkins is like championship sucide.  he is our kryptonite to defeat the 2 who claim to be superman; dwight and shaq

You know what is even bigger championship suicide?  Not having enough elite talent.  And that is going to be the case with the C's soon.  Sure, there is a decent chance they could make another run next year, but that is far from a certainty (they got VERY lucky with health this postseason), but their talent base is going to be fading fast over the next few years.  If you can get a guy who you think can be a star in exchange for a roleplayer like Perk, you need to do it.

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 02:34:37 PM »

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trading perkins is like championship sucide.  he is our kryptonite to defeat the 2 who claim to be superman; dwight and shaq

You know what is even bigger championship suicide?  Not having enough elite talent.  And that is going to be the case with the C's soon.  Sure, there is a decent chance they could make another run next year, but that is far from a certainty (they got VERY lucky with health this postseason), but their talent base is going to be fading fast over the next few years.  If you can get a guy who you think can be a star in exchange for a roleplayer like Perk, you need to do it.

But that player isn't the #4 pick, is it? Outside of Wall, what player is a lock to be star in the league?

I agree that we're going to need to reload soon. But I see no reason why buying a mid-to-late 1st rounder, along with our own #19 selection, won't be just as good a move.
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2010, 02:38:25 PM »

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I think we need Perk's defense more than we need the #4 pick, even if Minnesota would do that trade. 

I think whoever is taken at #4 will probably be more talented than Perk, but he won't be as proven or as good a fit on our defensive front line. 

It's a smart move if you're looking to rebuild.  If possible, though, I'd like to see us try to extend our window another year or two, rebuilding be [danged].

I agree with Roy, assuming we win the title this year. If not, anything is possible!

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2010, 02:40:34 PM »

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trading perkins is like championship sucide.  he is our kryptonite to defeat the 2 who claim to be superman; dwight and shaq

You know what is even bigger championship suicide?  Not having enough elite talent.  And that is going to be the case with the C's soon.  Sure, there is a decent chance they could make another run next year, but that is far from a certainty (they got VERY lucky with health this postseason), but their talent base is going to be fading fast over the next few years.  If you can get a guy who you think can be a star in exchange for a roleplayer like Perk, you need to do it.
I feel like the C's are showing right now that they are still championship contenders. To trade Perk would be hindering the present for the future. If your team has championship ambitions that's not something you do.
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2010, 02:43:16 PM »

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If Perk could be traded for the 4th pick, I'd hate to see him go, but you've got to make that deal. I want to extend our run another year maybe 2 as much as anyone. Yet I still have my eye on this team's future.

Somehow I hope Perkins remains a Celtic for life, but everyone has to be expendable for the right trade.

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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2010, 02:48:00 PM »

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I'd be more interested in Love than the 4th pick.

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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2010, 02:51:00 PM »

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trading perkins is like championship sucide.  he is our kryptonite to defeat the 2 who claim to be superman; dwight and shaq

You know what is even bigger championship suicide?  Not having enough elite talent.  And that is going to be the case with the C's soon.  Sure, there is a decent chance they could make another run next year, but that is far from a certainty (they got VERY lucky with health this postseason), but their talent base is going to be fading fast over the next few years.  If you can get a guy who you think can be a star in exchange for a roleplayer like Perk, you need to do it.

But that player isn't the #4 pick, is it? Outside of Wall, what player is a lock to be star in the league?

I agree that we're going to need to reload soon. But I see no reason why buying a mid-to-late 1st rounder, along with our own #19 selection, won't be just as good a move.

No one is a lock to be a star in the league.  The question needs to be whether the chances of the player you pick at #4 has a better chance to be a star, than Perk has of being the difference between a championship next year or not.

Personally, I think Perk is overrated, and could be replaced by a guy like Haywood, and the team could be just as good, or possibly even be better, because of the huge upgrade offensively overshadowing the defensive downgrade.  And at this point, there is nothing that can convince me otherwise.

To me, Perk gives you an advantage over 1 player in the league (who, by the way, played pretty well last night even with Perk in there), but he struggles against a bunch of other players.  I think a scenario of Bogut averaging 25 per game against the C's early in the playoffs next season, and bouncing them early is just as likely as Perk keeping Howard in check, and getting the C's past the Magic.  

And of course, it depends on what you think of the guys who could be available at 4.  If its Derrick Favors, then I absolutely think its worth it.