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Why does Doc tell our plays ?
« on: May 15, 2010, 05:37:57 PM »

Offline j804

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Heard video from a postgame and why does Doc say things like Rondo kept signaling the fist play and that means clear room, and were going to Garnett in the post. Also things like in the CLE series he was saying if he was Verejao he would try to get under KG or whoever hes guardings skin.

Why?? I mean I know teams scout and watch video to translate what they can but why openly tell other teams what were doing or what to do? Sometimes I wish he took the Phil Jackson approach and be breif n shut his mouth

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Re: Why does Doc tell our plays ?
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I read the same thing and thought it was odd for Doc to say, but as you say, even a modicum of scouting would tell an opposing team what our signs are.  Also, nothing prevents the Celts from changing them up before the next round.

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Re: Why does Doc tell our plays ?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2010, 06:28:19 PM »

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Re: Why does Doc tell our plays ?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2010, 07:36:02 PM »

Offline cdif911

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sounds like Red's old teams where they'd have 5 or 6 plays, everyone knew them, no one could stop them
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2010, 07:52:56 PM »

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Other teams are idiots.  When they see Rondo raise a fist and the team clears and gets it to KG down low, I think they're smart enough to understand what the fist means from then on.
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Re: Why does Doc tell our plays ?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2010, 08:16:44 PM »

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I think every coach has a fist play...

often times I'll go so simple and be like, "pass to Jared, in the post" - seems to work - or "isolate" - everyone knows what's coming, but that can't necessarily guard it..
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2010, 08:18:45 PM »

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going to hs basketball one thing I think is dumb is when a team freshman through varsity all run the same sets by the same names - the varsity generally watches the JV, so they now have a scouting report on the plays the varsity runs...I understand the concept so the kids know the plays by the time they get to varsity, but mix it up, change play names, add wrinkles, etc...
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2010, 08:36:56 PM »

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Teams with too many plays to scout are over coaches. It makes the coach feel great to diagram everything, but its better to have smart players. You only need like 5 plays.

Focus on teaching fundamentals, defense, and fast break to a HS team, rather than numerous half court plays and secret signs.

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Pat Riley did this all the time...  It was a known fact that that when he called "fist" and touched his chest that it meant Kareem would get it on the low block...

...the problem: how do you stop it even when you know it's coming?  ;)

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Teams with too many plays to scout are over coaches. It makes the coach feel great to diagram everything, but its better to have smart players. You only need like 5 plays.

Focus on teaching fundamentals, defense, and fast break to a HS team, rather than numerous half court plays and secret signs.

In youth ball our half court was a 1-3-1 and we ran 3 plays both either left or right. I included lots of low posts screens and high post pick and rolls with constant rotation of the ball and also the PG and wings around the perimeter. Nothing fancy or hard to learn but when it was run correctly, like any offense, it was deadly and usually only beaten by great defense.

My youth teams did more fast breaking than anything else and was coached to do so.

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 11:48:33 PM »

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Teams with too many plays to scout are over coaches. It makes the coach feel great to diagram everything, but its better to have smart players. You only need like 5 plays.

Focus on teaching fundamentals, defense, and fast break to a HS team, rather than numerous half court plays and secret signs.


sometimes I'll have 2 or 3 names for the same play, throws the other team off a little
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