There really isn't a comparison here, the C's are the better TEAM, if people have been watching the C's throughout the year. They get everyone involved in the game, and the players themselves work on new things to bring to the table. Cleve, well the guys there aren't that bad, but for their ages, they do not, nor ever will compare to the Celtics. They are lucky if they can match up to older Celtics players. Jamison will never be a PP or Ray A, he is younger, so what is he waiting for..? The guards vs Rondo, not a chance, D West is probably as good as he will get, Mo, the same. Varajo.....,he does good things for them, but isn't worth the $$$ he gets, without LBJ, what would he really do....? He has no post up game, no outside shot, his goods are movement without the ball, court sense, and ability to get to the rebound and finish, a good athelete...maybe a decent shot ( i just don't like his style~ sort of) The only two with more potential is moon amd parker.....and in a way LBJ keeps them from blooming, becasue no one else on that team gets plays run for THEM....But their ball movement, shooting and individual talent, well I'd say no.....LBj may be like a young Jorden, before he learned how to bring the rest of the team with him...but he isn't really a Jorden...Jorden wasn't ever stoppable...he at least would rack up some assists in a poor scoring game, besides, they would double MJ.....do you see many double teams on LBJ..? As for Shaq, he is big, strong, does get away with the famous boody-down-back-you-down play..which IS a foul...he backs people down sometimes 4-5 steps.......the other guy is flat footed in position, that is another ref failure......add it to the list....just my opinion, but I'd say the refs have collectively decided to show their influence on the game, be a major controlling part of it, who plays, the flow, and who can do what, when.....that isn't what they are supposed to be doing. Hence LBJ and his crazy allowance.....a travelling man first off,,MJ never did that "crab dribble", funny how he even had a name for it...we just call it TRAVELLING! LBJ needs a lot of extra ref help to rise to this level, otherwise, the D on him would stop him a lot more than other stars he is compared too...!