CB Historical Draft - Team Rosters/Panelists Comments

[GreenFaith1819]

I think that for Billups, I chose the 07-08 season due to his 3 pt efficiency..I see the concern about him losing a step in 07-08, though. I think that he was still a top line defender in 07-08.

I think that this played into my choices for Gerald Wallace as well..on top of him being a solid defender, I wanted a good yr from 3 range, as well as his other stats. It was very important for me to spread the floor for Dream and McHale to operate.

2010 was by far Wallace's best year from three, though, right?  37.1%, versus 32.1% in 2008.  He was also a lot better shooting overall.

It's actually the same thing with Billups:  he was a better 3PT shooting in 2006 than in 2008 (43.3% vs. 40.1%)

I went with the 07-08 for Billups because he had the overall better FG% (45%) He still shot over 40% (40.1) from 3-land and had one of his best ever FT % (913) that yr as well.

For Gerald Wallace, I initially went with 07-08 due to him averaging 3.5 assists from the SF spot. While not as good rebounding for this particular yr, he still pulled in 6.0 rebs, which works out well for us.

I see what you mean now with Wallace. The assessment of his defensive skills from 2009-10 were more than likely his best, with Larry Brown as his coach.

Good Call..I think the reason that I initially went with 07-08 for Gerald Wallace was due to his assists total that yr.

[stoyko]

Sixers Years
PG- Gary Payton (97-98), Blaylock (94-95), Baron Davis (96-97)
SG-Brandon Roy (08-09), Hawkins (96-97), Brent Barry (01-02), Dell Curry (98-99)
SF-Paul Pierce (07-08), Ceballos (01-02),Derrick McKey (94-95)
PF-Pau Gasol (08-09), Rasheed Wallace (04-05)
Center-Tim Duncan (01-02), Elden Campbell (96-97)

[stoyko]

Antoine Walker-2001-2

[Truck Lewis]

Indiana Pacers

C: Marcus Camby: 2006-2007 (11.7 RPG, 3.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 3.3 BPG, 11.2 PPG)
   NBA Def. POY, 1st Team All-Defensive, Led NBA in Blocks and BPG.

PF: Josh Smith: 2009-2010 (8.7 RPG, 4.2 APG, 1.6 SPG, 2.1 BPG, 15.7 PPG)
   2nd Team All-Defensive, 3rd in NBA in Blocks and BPG, 8th in Steals, 4th in Def. Win Shares.

SF: Reggie Lewis: 1991-1992 (4.6 RPG, 2.2 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1.2 BPG, 20, PPG)
   All Star, Member of exclusive 100-100-100 Club for Blocks/Steals/Assists

SG: Michael Jordan: 1991-1992 (6.4 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.3 SPG, 0.9 BPG, 30.1 PPG)
   MVP, Finals MVP, All Star, 1st Team All-Defensive, 1st Team All-NBA, NBA Champion

PG: Deron Williams: 2009-2010 (4.0 RPG, 10.5 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 18.7 PPG)
   All Star, 2nd Team All-NBA, 2nd in NBA for Assists and APG.

6th man: Allen Iverson: 2001-2002 (4.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, 2.8 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 31.4 PPG)
   All Star, 2nd Team All-NBA, Led NBA in SPG and PPG, Tasted Finals in 2000-2001 and gladly accepts reduced role under MJ’s watchful eye.

C: Chris Kaman: 2009-2010 (9.3 RPG, 1.6 APG, 0.5 SPG, 1.2 BPG, 18.5 PPG)
   All Star

C: Emeka Okafor: 2006-2008 (11.3 RPG, 1.2 APG, 0.9 SPG, 2.6 BPG, 14.4 PPG)
   Top 10 in OREBS, DREBS & Blocks, 4th in RPG & BPG.

F: Tom Chambers: 1989-1990 (7.0 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.1 SPG, .861 FT %, 27.2 PPG)
   All Star, 2nd Team All-NBA, 4th in PPG and Points.

F: Rashard Lewis: 2004-2005 (5.5 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.1 SPG, 0.9 BPG, 20.5 PPG) 
   All Star, .400 3PT %.

F: Derrick Coleman: 1993-1994 (11.3 RPG, 3.4 APG, 0.9 SPG, 1.8 BPG, 20.2 PPG)
   All Star, 3rd Team All-NBA, Top 10 in DREBs, RPG, and FTs.

F: Chuck Person: 1919-1992 (5.3 RPG, 4.7 APG, 0.8 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 18.5 PPG)
   4th in 3Pts

G:  Alvin Robertson: 1990-1991 (5.7 RPG, 5.5 APG, 3.0 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 13.6 PPG)
   All Star, 1st Team All-Defensive, Led NBA in SPG and Steals.

G: Ben Gordon: 2006-2007 (3.1 RPG, 3.6 APG, 0.8 SPG, .413 3PT %, 21.4 PPG)
   
G: Dee Brown: 1993-1994 (3.9 RPG, 4.5 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.6 BPG, 15.5 PPG)
   Top 10 in Steals and SPG.
         
Head Coach: Larry Bird: 147 W, 67 L, .687 W%, 32 PW, 20 PL, .615 PLW%
   1997-1998 NBA Coach of the Year, 2000 Eastern Conference Champions

[Donoghus]

Milwaukee Bucks



Head Coach: Chuck Daly



- 2 time NBA World Champion
- Head Coach of the Original Dream Team (Gold Medal)
- Named to the NBA's "Top 10 Coaches in NBA History" (1996)
- Elected to Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame (1994)

Starting Five

Point Guard: Earvin "Magic" Johnson



1989-1990

- NBA MVP
- All Star Game MVP
- All-NBA 1st Team

22.3 ppg 11.5 apg 6.6 rpg 1.7 spg .890 FT% .480 FG% .384 3P%

Shooting Guard: Mitch Richmond



1995-1996

- All-NBA 3rd team
- NBA All-Star

23.1 ppg 3.1 apg 3.3 rpg 1.5 spg .866 FT% .447 FG% .437 3P%

Small Forward: Dominique Wilkins



1990-1991

- All-NBA 2nd team
- NBA All-Star

25.9 ppg 9.0 rpg 3.3 apg .829 FT% .470 FG% .341 3P%

Power Forward: Shawn Kemp



1995-1996

- All-NBA 2nd team
- NBA All-Star
- NBA Finals Appearance (Lost to Chicago Bulls)

19.6 ppg 11.4 rpg 2.2 apg 1.6 blks 1.2 spg .561 FG% .417 3P%

Center: Patrick Ewing



1989-1990

- All-NBA 1st team
- NBA All-Star
- Finished 2nd in total blocks
- Finished 5th in total rebounds

28.6 ppg 10.9 rpg 2.2 apg 4.0 blocks .551 FG% .775 FT%

Rotation

Shooting Guard: Manu Ginobili



2004-2005

16.0 ppg 4.4 rpg 3.9 apg 1.6 spg .803 FT% .471 FG% .376 3P%

- NBA All-Star
- World Champion (San Antonio Spurs)

Center: Arvydas Sabonis



1995-1996

14.5 ppg 8.1 rpg 1.8 apg 1.1 blks .545 FG% .757 FT%

- NBA All-Rookie 1st team

Point Guard: Rajon Rondo



2009-2010

13.7 ppg 9.8 apg 4.4 rpg 2.3 spg .508 FG%

- All-NBA Defensive 1st team
- Led NBA in steals & spg
- 4th in league in apg
- NBA World Champion (Boston Celtics)

Power Forward: Dale Davis



1993-1994

11.7 ppg 10.9 rpg 1.6 blocks .568 FG%

- 3rd in league in Offensive Rebound Pct.
- Legit defensive presence and enforcer

Bench

Guard: Steve Kerr

1995-1996

8.4 ppg 2.3 apg .929 FT% .515 3P% .506 FG%

- 2nd in league in 3P%
- NBA World Champion (Chicago Bulls)

Forward: Danny Granger

2008-2009

25.8 ppg 5.1 rpg 2.7 apg 1.4 blocks .878 FT% .447 FG% .404 3P%

- NBA Most Improved Player
- NBA All-Star

Forward: Robert Horry

2001-2002

6.8 ppg 5.9 rpg 1.1 blocks .374 3P% .783 FT%

- Nicknamed "Big Shot Bob" for a reason
- NBA World Champion (Los Angeles Lakers)

Inactives

Center: Joakim Noah

2009-2010

10.7 ppg 11.0 rpg 2.1 apg 1.6 blocks .504 FG%

- Finished 9th in defensive rating

Power Forward: Al Horford

2009-2010

14.2 ppg 9.9 rpg 1.1 blocks .551 FG%

- NBA All-Star

Guard-Forward: Rick Fox

1996-1997

15.4 ppg 5.2 rpg 2.2 spg

- 5th in league in steals and spg

Strategy

Having Magic Johnson fall to me at #10 in the first round set me in the direction that I decided to go.  From there, I decided that I'd try and build a team around athleticism and size.  I watched some of my fellow owners construct some incredible front-courts and decided that I needed to draft guys with size that could provide toughness in defending them.  I chose to take a young Patrick Ewing that was a an incredible defensivice force rather than the more refined offensive player we saw in the mid-90s.  I assumed I'd be able to compensate offesnisivley with my backcourt and wings.

I feel like this team can excel offensively in either the half-court set or playing up-tempo.  I have arguabley the greatest PG ever to run the fast break as well as 2 athletic players in 'Nique and Kemp that can run and finish with authority.  Quite the dangerous trio in the open court.

I think I have a very strong bench that can come in at any time with very little drop-off.  Ginobili is one of the greatest 6th men of the past 20 years and Dale Davis brings his huge physical frame and toughness to counter some of these incredible front-courts.  Raojn Rondo offers the ultimate change up in PGs in contrast to Magic.  Its like throwing a knuckleballer out there after facing a flamethrower all day.  As we've seen this season and playoffs, Rondo has clearly emerged as a Top 5 PG and I couldn't think of a much better backup to Magic.  Amazingly, I actually get bigger when I sub Sabonis' 7 foot 3 frame in there for Ewing.  Sabonis is one of the all-time great passing big men and can hit the outside shot that will draw some of these opposing big men out of the paint, thus allowing my wings to make their way to the basket.

I think a coach like Chuck Daly is perfect for this team.  The man was a master of managing egos and the Original Dream Team was the ultimate collection of stars and you couldn't have asked for a more perfect job.  I don't think chemistry will be an issue on this team.  I have drafted a bunch of key role players from championship teams that know their roles and may be used just for situational circumstances.  I have no doubt they'll accept those roles.

[RebusRankin]

San Antonio Spurs

PG - Tim Hardaway (1992/93)
SG - Kobe Bryant (2002/2003)
SF - Ron Artest (2003/2004)
PF - Chris Webber (2000/2001)
C - Dikembe Mutombo (1994/95)

Bench
Derek Harper (1989/90)
Nick Van Exel (2000/2001)
Michael Finley (1999/2000)
Steve Smith (2001/2002)
Detlef Schrempf (1994/95)
Ron Harper (1996/97)
Elton Brand (2005/2006)
Terry Cummings (1989/90)
Buck Williams (1989/90)
Rony Seikaly (1992/93)

[Roy Hobbs]

I know Fan From VT hasn't officially posted his roster, but in his sig it says:

Warriors
Coach: L Brown (03-04)
PG: Isiah (89-90)
SG Mullin (89-90)
SF: Melo (07-08)
PF: K Malone (96-97)
C: Mourning (98-99)

Divac (94-95)
Majerle (91-92)
F Lever (89-90)
AK47 (05-06)
Ratliff (98-99)
Blackman (90-91)
D Ellis (89-90)
Hinrich (06-07)
Barros (94-95)
Lafrentz (01-02)

[Who]

I know Fan From VT hasn't officially posted his roster, but in his sig it says:

Warriors
Coach: L Brown (03-04)
PG: Isiah (89-90)
SG Mullin (89-90)
SF: Melo (07-08)
PF: K Malone (96-97)
C: Mourning (98-99)

Divac (94-95)
Majerle (91-92)
F Lever (89-90)
AK47 (05-06)
Ratliff (98-99)
Blackman (90-91)
D Ellis (89-90)
Hinrich (06-07)
Barros (94-95)
Lafrentz (01-02)

I think Fan from VT should change Carmelo Anthony to 08/09 or 09/10.

Carmelo Anthony was only beginning to realize he needed to put more effort in defensively back in 2008. The start of his improvement defensively happened towards the end of that season but he was still pretty bad defensively at that point. Became a solid defender the following season (08/09).

[Who]

San Antonio Spurs

PG - Tim Hardaway (1992/93)
SG - Kobe Bryant (2007/2008)
SF - Ron Artest (2003/2004)
PF - Chris Webber (2000/2001)
C - Dikembe Mutombo (1994/95)

Bench
Derek Harper (1989/90)
Nick Van Exel (2000/2001)
Michael Finley (1999/2000)
Steve Smith (2001/2002)
Detlef Schrempf (1994/95)
Ron Harper (1996/97)
Elton Brand (2005/2006)
Terry Cummings (1989/90)
Buck Williams (1989/90)
Rony Seikaly (1992/93)

I would have picked younger versions of Kobe Bryant, Ron Harper, Nick Van Exel and Steve Smith.

[RebusRankin]

I like MVP Kobe (better all around game), I wanted that Harper as he was a great defender at that point and that's his role for this team, I wanted that Steve Smith because its his best shooting year and his role will be shooter off the bench, that Van Exel because its his best all around year.

[Who]

Indiana Pacers

C: Marcus Camby: 2006-2007 (11.7 RPG, 3.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 3.3 BPG, 11.2 PPG)
   NBA Def. POY, 1st Team All-Defensive, Led NBA in Blocks and BPG.

PF: Josh Smith: 2009-2010 (8.7 RPG, 4.2 APG, 1.6 SPG, 2.1 BPG, 15.7 PPG)
   2nd Team All-Defensive, 3rd in NBA in Blocks and BPG, 8th in Steals, 4th in Def. Win Shares.

SF: Reggie Lewis: 1991-1992 (4.6 RPG, 2.2 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1.2 BPG, 20, PPG)
   All Star, Member of exclusive 100-100-100 Club for Blocks/Steals/Assists

SG: Michael Jordan: 1991-1992 (6.4 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.3 SPG, 0.9 BPG, 30.1 PPG)
   MVP, Finals MVP, All Star, 1st Team All-Defensive, 1st Team All-NBA, NBA Champion

PG: Deron Williams: 2009-2010 (4.0 RPG, 10.5 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 18.7 PPG)
   All Star, 2nd Team All-NBA, 2nd in NBA for Assists and APG.

6th man: Allen Iverson: 2001-2002 (4.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, 2.8 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 31.4 PPG)
   All Star, 2nd Team All-NBA, Led NBA in SPG and PPG, Tasted Finals in 2000-2001 and gladly accepts reduced role under MJ’s watchful eye.

C: Chris Kaman: 2009-2010 (9.3 RPG, 1.6 APG, 0.5 SPG, 1.2 BPG, 18.5 PPG)
   All Star

C: Emeka Okafor: 2006-2008 (11.3 RPG, 1.2 APG, 0.9 SPG, 2.6 BPG, 14.4 PPG)
   Top 10 in OREBS, DREBS & Blocks, 4th in RPG & BPG.

F: Tom Chambers: 1989-1990 (7.0 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.1 SPG, .861 FT %, 27.2 PPG)
   All Star, 2nd Team All-NBA, 4th in PPG and Points.

F: Rashard Lewis: 2004-2005 (5.5 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.1 SPG, 0.9 BPG, 20.5 PPG) 
   All Star, .400 3PT %.

F: Derrick Coleman: 1993-1994 (11.3 RPG, 3.4 APG, 0.9 SPG, 1.8 BPG, 20.2 PPG)
   All Star, 3rd Team All-NBA, Top 10 in DREBs, RPG, and FTs.

F: Chuck Person: 1919-1992 (5.3 RPG, 4.7 APG, 0.8 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 18.5 PPG)
   4th in 3Pts

G:  Alvin Robertson: 1990-1991 (5.7 RPG, 5.5 APG, 3.0 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 13.6 PPG)
   All Star, 1st Team All-Defensive, Led NBA in SPG and Steals.

G: Ben Gordon: 2006-2007 (3.1 RPG, 3.6 APG, 0.8 SPG, .413 3PT %, 21.4 PPG)
   
G: Dee Brown: 1993-1994 (3.9 RPG, 4.5 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.6 BPG, 15.5 PPG)
   Top 10 in Steals and SPG.
         
Head Coach: Larry Bird: 147 W, 67 L, .687 W%, 32 PW, 20 PL, .615 PLW%
   1997-1998 NBA Coach of the Year, 2000 Eastern Conference Champions

I thought Camby's best defensive work was done in New York in Jeff Van Gundy. He developed a lot of bad habits while in Denver and didn't deserve the media recognition that he received. I would have picked one of those years (1999-2001).

For Rashard Lewis, I would either pick his final season in Seattle (2007) or his second season in Orlando (2009). He made real progress defensively over his final two years with the Sonics (particularly under Bob Hill in 2007) and became an average defensive player for the first time in his career over that period. In Orlando, he blossomed into an above defensive player (as a PF only) but wasn't used as scorer as well as he was back in Seattle hence the lower scoring numbers (coaching/system/teammates rather than talent).

I would also pick the Chris Kaman from a couple of years ago (2008) when he was rebounding and blocking shots like a fiend. That player had more of an impact than the better scoring version we saw this past season.

[Who]

I like MVP Kobe (better all around game), I wanted that Harper as he was a great defender at that point and that's his role for this team, I wanted that Steve Smith because its his best shooting year and his role will be shooter off the bench, that Van Exel because its his best all around year.

I'm not a believer in any of that growth from Kobe Bryant as a better teammate + leader + passer. I do, however, think that he had started to slip athletically by this point in his career ... which is something I would be trying to avoid.

If Ron Harper (big PG defense) and Steve Smith (stand still shooter) are going to be situational subs at the end of your bench, I can understand going with those years. I would still pick their better years because I think they have more value (particularly Ron Harper) but I can understand wanting a specialist instead.

I thought Van Exel's best seasons where with the Lakers early on in his career. In Denver, he was just playing on a worse team and saw more of the basketball.

[RebusRankin]

Which Kobe would you take? Would you take the 1997/98 Van Exel?

WIth Harper and Smith, I'm looking at them as situational subs for those exact jobs. Which other seasons would you consider?

[Who]

Which Kobe would you take? Would you take the 1997/98 Van Exel?

WIth Harper and Smith, I'm looking at them as situational subs for those exact jobs. Which other seasons would you consider?

Kobe Bryant = 2003, 2005 or 2006 ... maybe 2007 but that was the season when he started slipping (physically). The final title year or right after Shaq left.

Ron Harper = the younger the better, probably 89/90. The Clipper years.

Van Exel = any year between 1995 and 1997 ... he was very good for most of 1997/98, the start of 97/98, but struggled post All-Star break and was dropped in favour of Derek Fisher. Had some problems with his coach and accepting a reduced role. That late season meltdown hurt the Lakers chances in the playoffs.

I don't know whether to give those problems much consideration or not when selecting the year (actual talent versus exact performance?) but I would put an asterisk beside it for now. Van Exel was superb for those Showtime II teams in 1995 and 1996, they would probably be the years I would lean towards..

Steve Smith = I couldn't decide between young Steve Smith with the Heat (wider skill-set) or one of the following seasons with the Hawks (stuck to his best strengths better but became a bit one-dimensional as a scorer). So either his second or third season with the Heat, or, 1996/97 or 1997/98 with the Hawks. Probably Miami Steve Smith.

[Fan from VT]

Center: Alonzo Mourning, ’98-’99.
   PPG: 20.1
   RPG: 11.0
   APG: 1.6
   BPG: 3.9
   SPG: .7
   FG%: .511
   FT%: .652
Notes: All-NBA 1st Team, All-Defense 1st team, Defensive Player of the Year.

Power Forward: Karl Malone, ’96-‘97
   PPG: 27.4
   RPG: 9.9
   APG: 4.5
   BPG: .6
   SPG: 1.4
   FG%: .550
   FT%: .755
Notes: League MVP, All-NBA 1st, All-Defense 1st.

Small Forward: Chris Mullin, ’89-‘90
   PPG: 25.1
   RPG: 5.9
   APG: 4.1
   BPG: .6
   SPG: 1.6
   FG%:  .536
   3FG%: .372
FT%: .889
Notes: All-NBA 3rd Team. Interestingly enough, he made All-NBA 2nd the next year, and All-NBA 1st the year after, but we thing this was his best year (probably league recognition was just delayed).

Shooting Guard: Dan Majerle ’91-‘92
        PPG: 17.3
   RPG: 5.9
   APG: 3.3
   BPG: .5
   SPG: 1.6
   FG%: .478
   3FG%: .382
   FT%: .756
Notes: All Defense 2nd, All Star.

Point Guard: Isiah Thomas ’89-‘90
        PPG: 18.4
   RPG: 3.8
   APG: 9.4
   BPG: .2
   SPG: 1.7
   FG%: .438
   3FG%: .309
   FT%: .775
Notes: Finals MVP, All Star.

BENCH

C: Vlade Divac ’94-‘95
        PPG: 16.0
   RPG: 10.4
   APG: 4.1
   BPG: 2.2
   SPG: 1.4
   FG%: .507
   FT%: .777

SF: Carmelo Anthony ’07-‘08
PPG: 25.7
   RPG: 7.4
   APG: 3.4
   BPG: .5
   SPG: 1.3
   FG%: .492
   3FG%: .354
   FT%: .786
Notes: All-Star, Sandwich of All-NBA 3rd team around this particular, year

PG: Fat Lever ’89-‘90
PPG: 18.3
   RPG: 9.3
   APG: 6.5
   BPG: .2
   SPG: 2.1
   FG%: .443
   3FG%: .414
   FT%: .804
Notes: All-Star. Just 2 seasons removed from official recognition as All-Defense 2nd Team.

PF: Andrei Kirilenko ’05-‘06
        PPG: 15.3
   RPG: 8.0
   APG: 4.3
   BPG: 3.2
   SPG: 1.5
   FG%: .460
   3FG%: .308
   FT%: .699
Notes: All Defense 1st Team.

SG: Rolando Blackman ’90-‘91
        PPG: 17.3
   RPG: 5.9
   APG: 3.3
   BPG: .5
   SPG: 1.6
   FG%: .478
   3FG%: .382
   FT%: .756
Notes: in ’89-’90 he was an all-star.

C: Theo Ratliff ’98-‘99
        PPG: 11.2
   RPG: 8.1
   APG: .6
   BPG: 3.0
   SPG: .9
   FG%: .470
   FT%: .725
Notes: All-defense 2nd Team

SF: Dale Ellis ’89-‘90
        PPG: 23.5
   RPG: 4.3
   APG: 2.0
   BPG: .1
   SPG: 1.1
   FG%: .497
   3FG%: .375
   FT%: .818
Notes: One year after his All-star, All-NBA 3rd Team appearance.

SG/PG Kirk Hinrich ’06-‘07
        PPG: 16.6
   RPG: 3.4
   APG: 6.3
   BPG: .3
   SPG: 1.3
   FG%: .448
   3FG%: .415
   FT%: .835
Notes: All-Defense 2nd Team.

PG Dana Barros ’94-‘95
        PPG: 18.3
   RPG: 3.0
   APG: 6.7
   BPG: 0
   SPG: 1.6
   FG%: .490
   3FG%: .464
   FT%: .899

PF/C Raef Lafrentz '01-'02
        PPG: 13.4
   RPG: 7.4
   APG: 1.1
   BPG: 2.7
   SPG: .7
   FG%: .458
   3FG%: .388
   FT%: .695

Here’s the more traditional depth chart layout:
PG: Isiah/Fat Lever/Barros
SG: Majerle/Blackman/Hinrich
SF: Mullin/Anthony/Ellis
PF: Malone/Kirilenko/Lafrentz
C: Mourning/Divac/Ratliff