CB Historical Draft - 1990's 2000's version: Draft Thread

[Redz]

I demand some love for my Michael Adams selection. When I first heard of this draft. he was the first guy that came to mind.

For one year not a whole lot of guys can top 26.5 pts and 10+ assists.

[Donoghus]

I demand some love for my Michael Adams selection. When I first heard of this draft. he was the first guy that came to mind.

For one year not a whole lot of guys can top 26.5 pts and 10+ assists.

I'll show some love.

Can't go wrong with a Boston College Eagle. 

[RebusRankin]

Love the Adams pick. Was on my list for tomorrow.

[GreenFaith1819]

I demand some love for my Michael Adams selection. When I first heard of this draft. he was the first guy that came to mind.

For one year not a whole lot of guys can top 26.5 pts and 10+ assists.

Definitely a good Nugget to pick up. Fast and quick as all get-out, too.

[nickagneta]

I demand some love for my Michael Adams selection. When I first heard of this draft. he was the first guy that came to mind.

For one year not a whole lot of guys can top 26.5 pts and 10+ assists.

This isn't Michael Adams hate. I want you to understand that up front. Just some advice.

I loved all the guards that have come through BC being a huge BC basketball fan.

But, Adams' numbers that year were sooooooo inflated because of the flawed and failed Paul Westhead system that Westhead installed after replacing Doug Moe as head coach in Denver. They played at an extremely high pace and was all about run and gun and to hell with defense.

Adams made the most of it in that 20-62 season in Denver but taking almost 9 threes a game at a 29% clip and shooting below 40% for the year playing a losing brand of basketball isn't an example of Michael Adams at his best. His best year was actually his next year when he played in Washington. His numbers are definitely more pedestrian but he was a much better basketball player that year.

[Redz]

I demand some love for my Michael Adams selection. When I first heard of this draft. he was the first guy that came to mind.

For one year not a whole lot of guys can top 26.5 pts and 10+ assists.

This isn't Michael Adams hate. I want you to understand that up front. Just some advice.

I loved all the guards that have come through BC being a huge BC basketball fan.

But, Adams' numbers that year were sooooooo inflated because of the flawed and failed Paul Westhead system that Westhead installed after replacing Doug Moe as head coach in Denver. They played at an extremely high pace and was all about run and gun and to hell with defense.

Adams made the most of it in that 20-62 season in Denver but taking almost 9 threes a game at a 29% clip and shooting below 40% for the year playing a losing brand of basketball isn't an example of Michael Adams at his best. His best year was actually his next year when he played in Washington. His numbers are definitely more pedestrian but he was a much better basketball player that year.

I understand the numbers are inflated, but for a 10th round pick, they're pretty nice to look at.

[Donoghus]

I demand some love for my Michael Adams selection. When I first heard of this draft. he was the first guy that came to mind.

For one year not a whole lot of guys can top 26.5 pts and 10+ assists.

This isn't Michael Adams hate. I want you to understand that up front. Just some advice.

I loved all the guards that have come through BC being a huge BC basketball fan.

But, Adams' numbers that year were sooooooo inflated because of the flawed and failed Paul Westhead system that Westhead installed after replacing Doug Moe as head coach in Denver. They played at an extremely high pace and was all about run and gun and to hell with defense.

Adams made the most of it in that 20-62 season in Denver but taking almost 9 threes a game at a 29% clip and shooting below 40% for the year playing a losing brand of basketball isn't an example of Michael Adams at his best. His best year was actually his next year when he played in Washington. His numbers are definitely more pedestrian but he was a much better basketball player that year.

I understand the numbers are inflated, but for a 10th round pick, they're pretty nice to look at.

For a 10th rounder its a no-brainer.  Good pick.

[nickagneta]

Don't get me wrong Redz, I think it's a good pick. I loved Michael Adams. Actually I don't think I have seen what I would label as a bad pick since the 5th round. I just think when determining which year you are going to use for him, that that year is in fact not his best year, despite what the numbers might say.

[Redz]

Don't get me wrong Redz, I think it's a good pick. I loved Michael Adams. Actually I don't think I have seen what I would label as a bad pick since the 5th round. I just think when determining which year you are going to use for him, that that year is in fact not his best year, despite what the numbers might say.

I'm sticking with the "pretty numbers" 

[Moranis]

Don't get me wrong Redz, I think it's a good pick. I loved Michael Adams. Actually I don't think I have seen what I would label as a bad pick since the 5th round. I just think when determining which year you are going to use for him, that that year is in fact not his best year, despite what the numbers might say.

I've been taking guys of late whose numbers are less, but fit much more into a role on my team.  And of the guys I've drafted I'm taking some lesser statistical years for better efficiency years on a number of players.

Also I'd much rather have Brandon who in the year I'm taking went for 17 points, 9 assists, 2 steals, 3.5 boards, all while hitting over 40% from three (and 90% from the line), then an inefficient chucker like Adams.  Just my personal preference of course, but that is how I see it.

[nickagneta]

This brings up a good talking point about how the Panelists will judge the teams.

I want to preface that I don't want the Panelists to say how they are going to judge the teams

How important are raw numbers going to be versus advance metrics?

How important will efficiency be versus that of production?

How important will what the player's personal accomplishments be for that year versus just their overall talent?

How much should chemistry be considered considering versus that of pure talent?

How much effect will the coach be?

Should be interesting and given that we as owners don't know how the panelists will judge things and how they will factor in all these things, I think it will be important for us to make a solid presentation discussing the strengths of our teams, how they will be used and the accomplishments and stats of the players.

Should be fun.

[Who]

Don't get me wrong Redz, I think it's a good pick. I loved Michael Adams. Actually I don't think I have seen what I would label as a bad pick since the 5th round. I just think when determining which year you are going to use for him, that that year is in fact not his best year, despite what the numbers might say.

I've been taking guys of late whose numbers are less, but fit much more into a role on my team.  And of the guys I've drafted I'm taking some lesser statistical years for better efficiency years on a number of players.

Also I'd much rather have Brandon who in the year I'm taking went for 17 points, 9 assists, 2 steals, 3.5 boards, all while hitting over 40% from three (and 90% from the line), then an inefficient chucker like Adams.  Just my personal preference of course, but that is how I see it.

The thing about Brandon's efficiency is that he took very few three pointers and very few free throws. The overwhelming majority of his shot attempts were two point field goals.

Take the year you are talking about for example, Brandon took 14.7 FGA per game and had a FG% of 46.6%. 1.9 of those 14.7 attempts came from downtown and he hit 40%. And, Brandon got another three free throws a game at 90%. The result was an eFG% of 49.2% and a TS% of 53.5% which is a mediocre figure. So, Brandon's overall scoring efficiency isn't that impressive.

Michael Adams posted a TS% of 53% during his 26.5/10.5 season despite his lousy shooting numbers because he took a large number of three point attempts (8.5 per game out of 21.5 FGAs) and free throw attempts (8 per game).

[KCattheStripe]

I want to preface that I don't want the Panelists to say how they are going to judge the teams

I, for one, will be judging your teams based on how much money you wire to my account in the Camans.

[nickagneta]

I want to preface that I don't want the Panelists to say how they are going to judge the teams

I, for one, will be judging your teams based on how much money you wire to my account in the Camans.

You mean my promise of unadulterated love and devotion for all things Wes Matthews isn't enough to buy your vote?

[nickagneta]

I have some business to attend to tomorrow morning but should be around just about the draft's first pick(s) will be due.

To make things easy, start the draft as early tomorrow as you want.

If someone is going to make a trade of one of the early picks, just pick for the person you are trading with and we will finalize the trade when I get back.

Again, I should be around right about by 1:00 PM EST but if I'm not, just go on and I'll catch up.