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Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« on: May 03, 2010, 09:27:47 AM »

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A little outside the box, but this might work in both teams' favor (which I consider the key to a good trade proposal):

Tony Parker, DaJuan Blair, Richard Jefferson (contract) and contract filler for Chris Bosh, Hedo Turkoglu and Jose Calderon.

In exchange for Bosh, Toronto jettisons two dead weight contracts, picks up an all star / exciting pointguard, and gets a young, tough rebounder to put next to Bargnani.

San Antonio takes a step back in the back court (Parker to Calderon), makes an upgrade at small forward and lands a replacement superstar.

In my opinion, San Antonio becomes the favorite to win the 2010-2011 championship with this roster.
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Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010, 10:58:49 AM »

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As it stands, San Antonio remains a contender. Why mess with their chemistry?

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 12:04:49 PM »

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Yeah, you don't break up San Antonio's Big 3.  I don't think any team will be particularly excited to take Richard Jefferson, either.  

I don't think San Antonio can compete with what other interested teams can offer - e.g. the Rockets.

(e.g. Scola + Hill + Lottery pick + Ariza for Bosh + Turkoglu + Amir J)

I really want to see the Rockets land Bosh...Brooks, Martin, Bosh, and Ming with some well-picked Daryl Morey role players could be a very good team.
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Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 02:27:55 PM »

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I think that deal makes a ton of sense.  The only major sticking point I would see from either team would be Turkoglu's contract.  The Spurs have always been careful not to take on bad contracts, and his is one of the worst in the league right now.  He could certainly be revitalized in SA, but that is a tough pill to swallow.  Calderon's contract isn't much better.

However, if you simplify it to Parker and filler for Bosh and filler, I think it could make a lot of sense for both teams.  And they can also include Blair if there is a bidding war. 

Parker is still an elite PG in the league, and young enough to build around, and fits into the international movement they have been doing in Toronto.  But SA can afford to give him up for a talent like Bosh, since Hill has really stepped up.

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 04:50:37 PM »

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I think S.A. hangs up the phone before Toronto finishes talking. With a new CBA on the horizon, they wouldn't take two murderous contracts like Calderon and Turkoglu on top of a maxed out Bosh. That paralyzes them for years.

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 05:26:18 PM »

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I think the Spurs should go after Chris Bosh but they shouldn't be willing to take back Turkoglu (role player in their system) or Jose Calderon (due to George Hill).

The Spurs need to strongly look into these two possibilities this summer
  • Trading Tony Parker for an established All-Star or All-NBA talent ... with George Hill replacing Parker in the starting lineup.
  • Trading an expiring contract (Richard Jefferson) + some combinations of young prospects (George Hill, DeJuan Blair, the rights to Tiago Spliiter, future first round picks) for a high quality player.
They need to make substantial changes heading into next season. The Spurs need more size on the interior to help Tim Duncan out defensively + more quickness amongst their bigs to better matchup against transition teams and perimeter orientated or quick undersized big men. They also need more size on the wings.

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 05:45:50 PM »

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I think the Spurs should go after Chris Bosh but they shouldn't be willing to take back Turkoglu (role player in their system) or Jose Calderon (due to George Hill).

The Spurs need to strongly look into these two possibilities this summer
  • Trading Tony Parker for an established All-Star or All-NBA talent ... with George Hill replacing Parker in the starting lineup.
  • Trading an expiring contract (Richard Jefferson) + some combinations of young prospects (George Hill, DeJuan Blair, the rights to Tiago Spliiter, future first round picks) for a high quality player.
They need to make substantial changes heading into next season. The Spurs need more size on the interior to help Tim Duncan out defensively + more quickness amongst their bigs to better matchup against transition teams and perimeter orientated or quick undersized big men. They also need more size on the wings.

Just to throw this out there, but what about a trade of Perk for a resigned Roger Mason, and the rights to Tiago Splitter? 

The C's get a talented young big man with a little more upside than Perk (if he is interested in coming over), and some nice insurance on the wing, in case they can't resign Ray (or to use Ray in a sign and trade).

And San Antonio gets a bruising center to put next to Duncan.

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 07:18:07 PM »

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I think the Spurs should go after Chris Bosh but they shouldn't be willing to take back Turkoglu (role player in their system) or Jose Calderon (due to George Hill).

The Spurs need to strongly look into these two possibilities this summer
  • Trading Tony Parker for an established All-Star or All-NBA talent ... with George Hill replacing Parker in the starting lineup.
  • Trading an expiring contract (Richard Jefferson) + some combinations of young prospects (George Hill, DeJuan Blair, the rights to Tiago Spliiter, future first round picks) for a high quality player.
They need to make substantial changes heading into next season. The Spurs need more size on the interior to help Tim Duncan out defensively + more quickness amongst their bigs to better matchup against transition teams and perimeter orientated or quick undersized big men. They also need more size on the wings.

Just to throw this out there, but what about a trade of Perk for a resigned Roger Mason, and the rights to Tiago Splitter? 

The C's get a talented young big man with a little more upside than Perk (if he is interested in coming over), and some nice insurance on the wing, in case they can't resign Ray (or to use Ray in a sign and trade).

And San Antonio gets a bruising center to put next to Duncan.
I would rather see San Antonio focus on shifting Tim Duncan to the center position and acquiring a big man who can play the power forward position full time. Someone with defensive chops + good athleticism relative to the PF position (like Tyrus Thomas). If acquiring an out-and-out center, who isn't comfortable as a four, I'd like to see him be a backup to Tim Duncan.

So, I don't like the fit ... but that doesn't really matter because I think San Antonio are willing to pair Duncan next to a center in an effort to re-create the past and Perkins definitely fits into that. So, yeah, I think San Antonio would be interested in Perkins + I think they'd be willing to give up Splitter to land Perk. I don't think Roger Mason Jr is in their plans for the future so I wouldn't expect them to have any problems giving him up.

As for the Celtics, yeah, I would be interested. Splitter superior offensive game makes him the more well-rounded player. I think he would cost most if not all of the MLE though.

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 07:29:03 PM »

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As it stands, San Antonio remains a contender. Why mess with their chemistry?

Yeah S.A. is my pick to win the West this year. I dont think they are going to be anything that drastic. Parkers not going anywhere, I could see them trading Jefferson but I dont think they are willing to give him up just yet... He knows his role and has filled and accepted it pretty well.

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 10:16:52 AM »

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I think the Spurs should go after Chris Bosh but they shouldn't be willing to take back Turkoglu (role player in their system) or Jose Calderon (due to George Hill).

The Spurs need to strongly look into these two possibilities this summer
  • Trading Tony Parker for an established All-Star or All-NBA talent ... with George Hill replacing Parker in the starting lineup.
  • Trading an expiring contract (Richard Jefferson) + some combinations of young prospects (George Hill, DeJuan Blair, the rights to Tiago Spliiter, future first round picks) for a high quality player.
They need to make substantial changes heading into next season. The Spurs need more size on the interior to help Tim Duncan out defensively + more quickness amongst their bigs to better matchup against transition teams and perimeter orientated or quick undersized big men. They also need more size on the wings.

Just to throw this out there, but what about a trade of Perk for a resigned Roger Mason, and the rights to Tiago Splitter? 

The C's get a talented young big man with a little more upside than Perk (if he is interested in coming over), and some nice insurance on the wing, in case they can't resign Ray (or to use Ray in a sign and trade).

And San Antonio gets a bruising center to put next to Duncan.
I would rather see San Antonio focus on shifting Tim Duncan to the center position and acquiring a big man who can play the power forward position full time. Someone with defensive chops + good athleticism relative to the PF position (like Tyrus Thomas). If acquiring an out-and-out center, who isn't comfortable as a four, I'd like to see him be a backup to Tim Duncan.

So, I don't like the fit ... but that doesn't really matter because I think San Antonio are willing to pair Duncan next to a center in an effort to re-create the past and Perkins definitely fits into that. So, yeah, I think San Antonio would be interested in Perkins + I think they'd be willing to give up Splitter to land Perk. I don't think Roger Mason Jr is in their plans for the future so I wouldn't expect them to have any problems giving him up.

As for the Celtics, yeah, I would be interested. Splitter superior offensive game makes him the more well-rounded player. I think he would cost most if not all of the MLE though.

I agree completely.  I think the Spurs shouldn't do it, but I think they would be interested. 

Much like the Celtics with KG, the Spurs should be moving Duncan to center full time, in order to extend his career a bit, as his footspeed slows down.  But I don't think they will actually do it.

Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 12:46:35 PM »

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According to ESPN, the Spurs are looking at moves involving Parker to land a young big man next to Duncan.

Lee immediately came to mind in a sign and trade when I saw the article, but I think Perkins would a guy they might want with something else assuming of course the C's find a third team as a destination for Parker
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Re: Bosh to San Antonio Idea
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 10:36:06 AM »

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According to ESPN, the Spurs are looking at moves involving Parker to land a young big man next to Duncan.

Lee immediately came to mind in a sign and trade when I saw the article, but I think Perkins would a guy they might want with something else assuming of course the C's find a third team as a destination for Parker

Is Lee at $10 million per year an upgrade over Blair? Perkins and Duncan play the same position. If they are dangling Parker, it is in exchange for Bosh.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 11:04:52 AM »

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As it stands, San Antonio remains a contender. Why mess with their chemistry?

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