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Celtics Summer Game Plan
« on: April 30, 2010, 12:17:58 AM »

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Well here is what i think the C's can and should do to stay competetive and become even a better team.

Since almost all of our bench player will expire and we do own 2 draft picks this is what id do if i was Danny Ainge.


- 19th pick C's should look to select a young and athletic replacement for Ray Allen. Guys that could fall with all-star potential are James Anderson, Paul George, Lance Stephenson, Dominique Jones, Elliot Williams, and Willie Warren.

- In the 2nd round there is a load of European potential in the last 10 picks! So the C's should use this one wisely cause guys like Nemanja Bjelica, Alexey Shved, Manny Harris, Paulo Prestes, and Matt Bouldin are all guys that can be good role players off a bench and some of them can turn into stars.

- Danny should look to buy 1 more late first or early 2nd rounder in this draft as there are a lot of teams like the T-Wolves, Thunder, Miami, and probably NY looking to sell some of their picks and add a PF to the roster. There are guys that can play in the early 2nd round like Renardo Sidney, Gani Lawal, Craig Brackins, Jarvis Varnado, and Kevin Seraphin.

- Then the C's should look at signing TA and giving the MLA to someone like Travis Outlaw, Ronald Murray, Craig Smith, Mike Miller.


- Then maybe look for a backup PG for less money there are some good ones like Carlos Arroyo, Earl Boykins, Chris Duhon, Sergio Rodriguez, Chris Quin, Luke Ridnour, Steve Blake, and Earl Watson

I think we have a great chance of improving our roster and becoming competetive next yr with these moves.

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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 12:22:25 AM »

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The prospect of getting rich in the draft with pick 19 and second round garbage sounds gloomy. We've got to trade Perk (perhaps along with pick 19). That is the only way we can improve our roster. I'd also like to make an offer for Al Harrington (though I doubt we would have enough).

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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 12:30:22 AM »

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Well here is what i think the C's can and should do to stay competetive and become even a better team.

Since almost all of our bench player will expire and we do own 2 draft picks this is what id do if i was Danny Ainge.


- 19th pick C's should look to select a young and athletic replacement for Ray Allen. Guys that could fall with all-star potential are James Anderson, Paul George, Lance Stephenson, Dominique Jones, Elliot Williams, and Willie Warren.

- In the 2nd round there is a load of European potential in the last 10 picks! So the C's should use this one wisely cause guys like Nemanja Bjelica, Alexey Shved, Manny Harris, Paulo Prestes, and Matt Bouldin are all guys that can be good role players off a bench and some of them can turn into stars.

- Danny should look to buy 1 more late first or early 2nd rounder in this draft as there are a lot of teams like the T-Wolves, Thunder, Miami, and probably NY looking to sell some of their picks and add a PF to the roster. There are guys that can play in the early 2nd round like Renardo Sidney, Gani Lawal, Craig Brackins, Jarvis Varnado, and Kevin Seraphin.

- Then the C's should look at signing TA and giving the MLA to someone like Travis Outlaw, Ronald Murray, Craig Smith, Mike Miller.


- Then maybe look for a backup PG for less money there are some good ones like Carlos Arroyo, Earl Boykins, Chris Duhon, Sergio Rodriguez, Chris Quin, Luke Ridnour, Steve Blake, and Earl Watson

I think we have a great chance of improving our roster and becoming competetive next yr with these moves.

If they don't win the title or mmake it to the finals...


Sign and trade Ray and Perk to GSW for Morrow + Randolph( GSW really wanted Ray at the deadline) and need a defensive center.

There was also a report that Randolph was looking for a contract around what rondo got 10 mil per, but I think he has a ways to go to earn that. Anyways the report said that GSW didn't want to pay him and may look to trade him if they can get out of one their bad contracts(Magette or Biendris)

I would even send the #19 pick probably.

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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 12:49:24 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 01:13:48 AM »

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The prospect of getting rich in the draft with pick 19 and second round garbage sounds gloomy. We've got to trade Perk (perhaps along with pick 19). That is the only way we can improve our roster. I'd also like to make an offer for Al Harrington (though I doubt we would have enough).

Trade Perk & Pick #19 for who, Lebron James. You don't trade Perk for a chance on a draft pick. Without Perk Celtics will not have an enforcer. This team will be as good next season. PP has 2-3 playing at elite level. KG will be one year removed from knee surgery. Ray is iron-man (No jinx), he is rich man's Reggie Miller @34. Rondo will be much improved next season. Perk is playing for a contract, so he'll bust his behind and get better. TA healthy offseason to work on his game. Glen Davis will enter his forth year, so expect some improvement there.

One must signing in the offseason is Travis Outlaw. This guy has everything Celtics are missing right now (Youth, Athletic, Shooter, Size) And legit backup PG(C.J. Watson). Draft a guy like (Paul George). Yes, Dreams due come true. Its a tall task, but I trust Danny Ainge to get the job done. Ask the spurs, you can compete playing old'timers as long as you sprinkle in some youth.

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 01:40:05 AM »

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The prospect of getting rich in the draft with pick 19 and second round garbage sounds gloomy. We've got to trade Perk (perhaps along with pick 19). That is the only way we can improve our roster. I'd also like to make an offer for Al Harrington (though I doubt we would have enough).


Oh so Dragic, Marc Gasol, Monta Ellis, CDR, Ramon Sessions, Leon Powe are all garbage????

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 08:16:47 AM »

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Need to see the final results

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 08:43:44 AM »

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Well here is what i think the C's can and should do to stay competetive and become even a better team.

Since almost all of our bench player will expire and we do own 2 draft picks this is what id do if i was Danny Ainge.


- 19th pick C's should look to select a young and athletic replacement for Ray Allen. Guys that could fall with all-star potential are James Anderson, Paul George, Lance Stephenson, Dominique Jones, Elliot Williams, and Willie Warren.

- In the 2nd round there is a load of European potential in the last 10 picks! So the C's should use this one wisely cause guys like Nemanja Bjelica, Alexey Shved, Manny Harris, Paulo Prestes, and Matt Bouldin are all guys that can be good role players off a bench and some of them can turn into stars.

- Danny should look to buy 1 more late first or early 2nd rounder in this draft as there are a lot of teams like the T-Wolves, Thunder, Miami, and probably NY looking to sell some of their picks and add a PF to the roster. There are guys that can play in the early 2nd round like Renardo Sidney, Gani Lawal, Craig Brackins, Jarvis Varnado, and Kevin Seraphin.

- Then the C's should look at signing TA and giving the MLA to someone like Travis Outlaw, Ronald Murray, Craig Smith, Mike Miller.


- Then maybe look for a backup PG for less money there are some good ones like Carlos Arroyo, Earl Boykins, Chris Duhon, Sergio Rodriguez, Chris Quin, Luke Ridnour, Steve Blake, and Earl Watson

I think we have a great chance of improving our roster and becoming competetive next yr with these moves.
For the 19th pick I don't see any of those guys mentioned as being top 20 type talent in this draft. My guess is most of them will be available at the top of the second round. Paul George, especially is a guy I would stay away from. Wiry thin frame, loves the three pointer and shooting unconsciously, not a great finisher or ball handler, turnover prone. And he was the best player on a bad team in an untalented conference. Huge red flags in my opinion.

If you want a wing player go with Damion James, Quincy Pondexter or Stanley Robinson. They all bring the total package. Rebounding, shooting, finishing, defense, athleticism, scoring and all are mature and leaders from great power programs in power conferences.

I do love Jarvis Varnado or Dexter Pittman in the second round.

I think at this point you have to bring Ray Allen back on a two year contract in the $15 million area.

Tony Allen also has to come back, probably on a 2 year $5-6 million contract.

I would love the MLE going to Travis Outlaw or Rasual Butler.

I would like to see the C's get Sheldon Williams or James Singleton in here as the 5th forward position on a veteran's minimum contract.

Trade Rasheed to Charlotte for Nazi Mohammed.

If there was a way to get Earl Watson as the back up PG, that would be ideal.

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 08:45:41 AM »

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agree that we need to see the results

I'm not sure we'll even use the MLE this year - next year could be a "bridge year" (ugh)
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 09:14:44 AM »

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agree that we need to see the results

I'm not sure we'll even use the MLE this year - next year could be a "bridge year" (ugh)
Ugh is right. I was pretty sure that's what the Red Sox would do this year in hopes of bridging to 2010-11 off season free agency. That hasn't worked out to good for them so far and I see it working out even less in the NBA and for the C's.

A bridge year the way the Celtics are constructed could easily become a bridge half decade. UGH!!!

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 10:27:59 AM »

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we've got to break up the core sooner or later - timing all depends on this series

if they lose in less than 6, I think the breakup starts sooner
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 10:52:16 AM »

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we've got to break up the core sooner or later - timing all depends on this series

if they lose in less than 6, I think the breakup starts sooner

I disagree.  I don't think Danny is that reactionary.  I think the breakup depends about 99% on when he can get the right value for these players.

I think there is not a significant difference in the chances of them breaking up the "core" if they go to the finals this year, and if they get swept next round.  In fact, it might be more likely that he breaks them up if they go further, since they players value might be higher, than if they fall apart next round.

What I do think can be affected by their play in the rest of the playoffs are the secondary players.  In particular, Davis, Sheed, and Tony Allen. 

If Sheed does not pick it up, Danny could look at using an asset to try to dump his contract, or dumping him for a similarly disappointing player with just as bad of a contract from another team, just to change the chemistry for next year.  But if he plays well, Danny may decide to hold on to him, unless someone is willing to give up at least an expiring contract, with no strings attached.

Davis...well, if he keeps playing the way he is, then he probably will be in that no mans land where they won't be able to get as much value in a trade as he is worth to the team.  But if he doesn't perform well, he will probably dangled...perhaps to entice someone to take Sheed.

Tony Allen...I think he is coming back, if the price is right, but he could price himself out of the C's range with another great series or two. 

But the starters, I think are all pretty much on the market for the right price, and I don't anticipate that to change. 

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 10:56:22 AM »

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how dare you use logic to shoot down my emotional response!

good post, I'll have to rethink everything when the summer starts, but for now I just hope we win because I honestly think it is our last shot - breakup or not
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 11:01:10 AM »

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but for now I just hope we win because I honestly think it is our last shot - breakup or not

This I agree with.  And I happen to believe that Danny Ainge is no idiot, and sees the exact same thing.  And that is the whole basis of my theory that this postseason is not directly related to his decision to "blow it up" or not.

Remember, Danny came into Boston, and blew up a core that was a year away from the EC Finals, and many people thought was on the upswing.  I think people need to give him more credit as someone who can look at his team objectively.

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Really want Mike Miller with the MLE. He solves a variety of needs. He plays the 2/3, has good size, is a good rebounder, great shooter with outstanding range, good ballhandling skills which allows him to play the 1 at times, and is familiar with Doc.