Rasheed Signing a Bust (Poll)?

[Roy Hobbs]

Let's compare Rasheed Wallace to the big men who signed some of the bigger contracts just after Sheed was taken off the free agent board by the Celtics.

Would the Celtics have been better off with Antonio McDyess (who reportedly didn't want to go to Boston anyways) or Brandon Bass?

I don't know about McDyess, but he's certainly a better rebounder than Rasheed.  Bass didn't really have the size we needed defensively, but he would have brought just as much, if not more, than Rasheed (he produced more on a per-minute basis), and we would have had around $1.8 million to sign on other free agents (i.e., Matt Barnes).

There were other options, as well, of course.  Chris Andersen signed a fairly reasonable deal; if we'd offered him Rasheed money, would he have taken it?  Ben Wallace was more productive than Rasheed on the boards and in terms of defense, and he signed a minimum contract.

Signing Rasheed made sense at the time, but in hindsight, I find it hard to be happy with the production he gave for the contract he signed.

[bruinsandceltics]

I know it sounds ridiculous, but is there anyway Sheed hangs them up after this year?

Wasn't he thinking about retiring before he signed with us?

I for one am very disappointed in the Sheed signing, I thought he would be great...but that wasn't the case at all. I just wish we could get out of that contract now that we know what we are going to get .

[jdpapa3]

I know it sounds ridiculous, but is there anyway Sheed hangs them up after this year?

Wasn't he thinking about retiring before he signed with us?

I just don't have high hopes for this when you consider that this is the guy that coined the phrase "cut the check."

[incoherent]

This is a big bust IMO... most the moves we've made have been kinda busty, this season, it's the players who have been with us through the years that are actually producing (not surprisingly).

[moiso]

I know it sounds ridiculous, but is there anyway Sheed hangs them up after this year?

Wasn't he thinking about retiring before he signed with us?

I just don't have high hopes for this when you consider that this is the guy that coined the phrase "cut the check."

And others have used the phrase "sign and retire" when describing guys like him.  Not actually retire, but sign the contract and go through the motions the rest of the way.

[moiso]

I know it sounds ridiculous, but is there anyway Sheed hangs them up after this year?

Wasn't he thinking about retiring before he signed with us?

I for one am very disappointed in the Sheed signing, I thought he would be great...but that wasn't the case at all. I just wish we could get out of that contract now that we know what we are going to get .

Maybe Rasheed and David Ortiz could retire together.  I'd be celebrating that night.

[j804]

is Wallace so BAD that even Ben Wallace is better than him at this point? i think so 

[Roy Hobbs]

is Wallace so BAD that even Ben Wallace is better than him at this point? i think so 

In terms of production vs. contract, Ben is a much better bet, no doubt about it.

[moiso]

I would LOVE for Ben Wallace to be our backup center.

[celticinorlando]

i certainly expect more from him this season

[j804]

is Wallace so BAD that even Ben Wallace is better than him at this point? i think so  

In terms of production vs. contract, Ben is a much better bet, no doubt about it.

yup what i was thinking if the tables were turned....i could definitely see Ben busting his butt out there being more productive than Sheed

we love Sheeds defense and down low offense when we get it, but thats rare. you can just see it he tries only when he wants to. maybe down the line and IF we get there to the conference finals/finals and its all on the line he'll finally turn it up. well need him to play better the next round. so far the signing says "bust" but we wont know until then.

[Drucci]

I've been a Sheed defender for the entire season and thought he would "turn it on" in the playoffs but I'm starting to seriously reconsider my position... granted, the playoffs are far from over and we only have a small sample of games to judge Sheed but so far he has disappointed in the playoffs.

But I have to say he is not really a good fit for us in this series, I'd rather see Baby get all his minutes. Sheed will have to bring it against Cleveland and Orlando ; if he fails against them, then it will be an obvious bust, yeah. Although, I agree with the point of some members who said there wasn't really better big men on the market last summer (McDyesss hasn't been a difference maker either and he hates the C's).

[LooseCannon]

If Sheed wasn't signed, it's quite possible that Ainge would have used a good chunk of the MLE to sign Marquis Daniels to something like four years at $4 million/year.

Then the Celtics might end up with players like Juwan Howard and Jarron Collins.

[Roy Hobbs]

If Sheed wasn't signed, it's quite possible that Ainge would have used a good chunk of the MLE to sign Marquis Daniels to something like four years at $4 million/year.

Then the Celtics might end up with players like Juwan Howard and Jarron Collins.

Maybe, but I doubt it.  Daniels' market was so small that I don't think Danny would have bid against himself (especially by giving a fourth year.)

Anyway, I'm not sure the "it could have been even worse" defense works here (especially when Marquis at $16 million is still probably better than Rasheed at $18+ million).

In hindsight, the Rasheed free agent deal was one of the very worst given last off-season.  The fact that you can't even point to examples of worse deals that were actually given, but instead point to hypothetical offers, shows that it really didn't work out very well at all.

[birdwatcher]

Sorry to weigh in so late, but yeah--it made sense on paper, but there's no way to calculate how much someone's laziness and bad attitude could lose you some games. We should have signed Antoine Walker--same nauseating game-- at least he has something to play for.