Sheed by the numbers tonight

[Ersatz]

I drank the cool-aid on Sheed last summer as well.  In hindsight, I'd take Antonio McDyess any time...

McDyess was bloody awful this year. Terrible season, as bad as Sheed's.

Interesting that both the Celtics and the Spurs got totally burned by their two big off-season signings: Daniels and Wallace, Jefferson and McDyess. Spurs paid a lot more money for their pain though.

[BudweiserCeltic]

When we play against Howard and Shaq, you guys will be happy Sheed is in here.

He's been playing along the post more, we just have to feed him there more... like we inexplicably do with Baby at times (1st quarter last night).

[twinbree]

I am so happy that Sheed played well in a couple of games this year. He certainly is earning his $5.5 million paycheck. Since the Curtis Rowe/Sidney Wicks days, I have not seen a player suck the life out of a team the way Sheed does.

Fortunately, so far in this series it has not mattered, but we might need him to actually do something if this team is going to do anything in the playoffs.

And Vinnie - I can certainly understand your angst. You are a Season Ticket holder. I haven't even been to a Celtics game in my life (Yet).

But like I asked CelticsHooligan: Who else could Danny have brought in back in July?

I drank the cool-aid on Sheed last summer as well.  In hindsight, I'd take Antonio McDyess any time...

McDyess was not available!  He had already decided he wasn't coming to Boston.

I don't remember reading that.  Regardless, though, I don't think McDyess had a great season, either. 

Yeah I don't think he said that. But I think his comments on Sheed signing with Boston implied he wouldn't have wanted to play for us.

[Casperian]

I'm with Jerome Moiso at this point. First, I don't think anyones afraid of Lebron at this point. Respectful? Yes. Scared? No. So I have no idea where that came from.

The animosity towards Sheed even after a big win is understandable because A) He hasn't come close to living up to expectations all year long. B) Hes cashing his checks as if he did. When it looks as if we could have spent that money on a much more useful player. Most anyone really. Because it seems were just flushing money down the toilet for him. C) Chemistry concerns. No
explanation needed. And here's my favorite lol.. D) He called out his own fans!! In an interview the other night they asked him about his up & down year & how he was taking the criticism from the fans & media. His answer? He's not bothered either way. He doesn't care about or listen to his fans or haters. Were all lumped into the same boat in that guys head. So lemme ask you Sheed apologists somthing. Why on earth do you wanna root for a guy who by all means has shown all year he doesn't care about any of you, his detractors, his exorbetant amount of technicals, his lackadasical play, upstaging his coach & teammate in front of a national tv audience.. Shall I go on?

That's not a Celtic! Never has been. Never will be as far as I'm concerned. The excuses are getting old now guys. He's still the same old Sheed from the regular season as far as I see. He doesn't bend his knees on defense. God forbid he ever hustles & gets on the floor for a loose ball. And ya know what. He doesn't care!  

So...who else do you propose that Danny Ainge bring in back in July 09?

McDyess, Nesterovic, Pachulia...

What if the New 3 would´ve visited Dice instead of Wallace? Maybe they could´ve changed his mind...

[twinbree]

I drank the cool-aid on Sheed last summer as well.  In hindsight, I'd take Antonio McDyess any time...

McDyess was bloody awful this year. Terrible season, as bad as Sheed's.

Interesting that both the Celtics and the Spurs got totally burned by their two big off-season signings: Daniels and Wallace, Jefferson and McDyess. Spurs paid a lot more money for their pain though.

Yeah all the top teams really. I'll add Carter, Shaq, Artest to the "big" additions that haven't paid much dividend. Looking at regular season records and level of play their teams all seem to have regressed from last season. For me, it's really a question of who has been the least underwhelming not who has had the most impact at this point.

[CelticHooligan3]

For the record I was a big fan of the Sheed signing at the time. I thought he was the best
FA available & was excited to see him in Green. That being said, I can also admit when I'm
wrong. And boy was I ever about him.

Green faith as for your question of who would be a better signing. I was one of the first
to start a Get Chris Andersen topic lol. I'm aware it was before Sheed and whatnot but I've
followed his career and story for quite some time and I thought he'd look good in Green. At
the time he had expressed interest in Boston if I recall correctly so I was all
for it. I love big guys who block shots and hustle for rebounds. Anti-Sheeds if you will.

I was at a game in the Garden, playin the Nuggets the year before he was suspended. I was
close enough to see a few hecklers in one of the front rows all over him. For his tatoos and
spikey hair. They were laying into him pretty hard. But he's such a nice & charismatic guy that
by the end of the game they were laughing and joking with him. Even cheered him after he "flapped
his wings" after one if his signature dunks.

[Onslaught]

That was my Beef all along. I posted what I did about Sheed. I still stand by those posts, and no one On Earth can change them.

Sheed can. Give it more time. 

In the end I hope you're right. It will help the team. But I don't believe it.

[Ersatz]

When we play against Howard and Shaq, you guys will be happy Sheed is in here.

Agree. Less about Shaq, if we get to him--because he's not as important to their game plan and will likely plan about 25 minutes, and most that time will be during Perk's minutes--but definitely against Howard, if we get there, he will--he had better--prove his worth. All season, when I've been frustrated with Sheed, I keep remembering how good he is at defending the post and what that will mean in the postseason.

[Onslaught]

When we play against Howard and Shaq, you guys will be happy Sheed is in here.

Agree. Less about Shaq, if we get to him--because he's not as important to their game plan and will likely plan about 25 minutes, and most that time will be during Perk's minutes--but definitely against Howard, if we get there, he will--he had better--prove his worth. All season, when I've been frustrated with Sheed, I keep remembering how good he is at defending the post and what that will mean in the postseason.

If we beat Miami then we will have Shaq next. And unless we can get by the Cavs then we won't have to worry about Howard. So Sheed better "turn it on" fast or he'll be useless to us.

[EJPLAYA]

I give Sheed big props last night for his control. He was given a nonsense technical that would have never been called on anyone else. The ref saw the entire thing and allowed Magloire to hold onto his arm. There shouldn't have been any call on either of them. Sheed kept his cool. The next play down the same ref called another garbage foul on him and he let it go. In the regular season Sheed would have lost it and been screaming at the guy. Instead he realized he needed to stay in the game with KG out and played it smart. THOSE are the type of things that he changes in the postseason.

He has not had a huge numbers game in the first two, but has played within himself. Hasn't tried to do too much. Has taken good shots overall. He worked hard rebounding last night. No reason to rip on him. He's playing smart. He'll also be a hero one of these nights as well.

[Ersatz]

He [h]asn't tried to do too much.

I thought I'd pull this quote way out of context and let it hang there. Indeed, all season he hasn't tried to do too much.

[Onslaught]

I give Sheed big props last night for his control. He was given a nonsense technical that would have never been called on anyone else. The ref saw the entire thing and allowed Magloire to hold onto his arm. There shouldn't have been any call on either of them. Sheed kept his cool. The next play down the same ref called another garbage foul on him and he let it go. In the regular season Sheed would have lost it and been screaming at the guy. Instead he realized he needed to stay in the game with KG out and played it smart. THOSE are the type of things that he changes in the postseason.

He has not had a huge numbers game in the first two, but has played within himself. Hasn't tried to do too much. Has taken good shots overall. He worked hard rebounding last night. No reason to rip on him. He's playing smart. He'll also be a hero one of these nights as well.

He didn't take wide open shots and then did take them with someone in his face. How is that playing smart? And I won't give someone credit for not going nuts. Even if the person is a nut.

[GreenFaith1819]

CelticHooligan - I would've loved Chris Anderson in Green. But for whatever reason, Danny didn't really pursue it. Looking back, I'm somewhat glad that he didn't. Chris has been hurt a lot this season.

Casperian mentioned Nesterovic and Pachulia...both Solid Bigs. But no outside threat at all.

Maybe Danny's frame of thought with McNabbing (Like that, huh? Redskins Fan here) Sheed was that he could spread the floor in a matchup with LA..drag Gasol or Bynum out of the paint. Sure, Sheed has not shot well from Three Land this year, but he is definitely a threat...especially if he can drag Bynum out of the paint.

And I'm sure that in a matchup with LA (Or ORL) We will see the Triple Towers at some point. LA is not that mobile, at all. We can take them.

Bynum was the only reason that LA (Bums) won last night, grabbing like 12 boards.

[dark_lord]

For the record I was a big fan of the Sheed signing at the time. I thought he was the best
FA available & was excited to see him in Green. That being said, I can also admit when I'm
wrong. And boy was I ever about him.

Green faith as for your question of who would be a better signing. I was one of the first
to start a Get Chris Andersen topic lol. I'm aware it was before Sheed and whatnot but I've
followed his career and story for quite some time and I thought he'd look good in Green. At
the time he had expressed interest in Boston if I recall correctly so I was all
for it. I love big guys who block shots and hustle for rebounds. Anti-Sheeds if you will.

I was at a game in the Garden, playin the Nuggets the year before he was suspended. I was
close enough to see a few hecklers in one of the front rows all over him. For his tatoos and
spikey hair. They were laying into him pretty hard. But he's such a nice & charismatic guy that
by the end of the game they were laughing and joking with him. Even cheered him after he "flapped
his wings" after one if his signature dunks.

in retrospect, i would have loved to sign andersen.  however, at the time i was glad we didnt.  taking a player after his issues with illicit substances would have been a poor decision.  visions of vin baker ran thru my head at the time.

i have no problem admitting i was wrong about andersen.  ive come to like his game a lot.

as for sheed, he was highly sought after by many teams this offseason.  the fact the celts put in the effort and money to build their bench up was very inspiring as a fan.  the issue with sheed is sheed.....not the celts decision to sign him.

[Roy Hobbs]

Maybe Danny's frame of thought with McNabbing (Like that, huh? Redskins Fan here) Sheed was that he could spread the floor in a matchup with LA..drag Gasol or Bynum out of the paint. Sure, Sheed has not shot well from Three Land this year, but he is definitely a threat...especially if he can drag Bynum out of the paint.

And I'm sure that in a matchup with LA (Or ORL) We will see the Triple Towers at some point. LA is not that mobile, at all. We can take them.

Bynum was the only reason that LA (Bums) won last night, grabbing like 12 boards.

Yeah, it's hard to fault Danny's logic.  Rasheed has legit height, is a good defender, and has championship experience.  He was good friends with KG, according to reports.  The Big Three all wanted him here.  It's easy to see, then, what Danny was hoping for.

Unfortunately, Rasheed's efficiency fell off of a cliff.  This year, he set a career high in three point attempts per minute, and a career low in efficiency, field goal percentage, and fouls per minute.  His rebounds per minute was the lowest it's been in a decade.  Most disappointing, perhaps, was that he came into camp in terrible shape (he had a visible gut coming into the season), he was visibly lazy, and he had the lowest FG% in the second half of games of any NBA player playing 200+ minutes.

Now, most of us can excuse poor performance if the hustle is there (although Scal may occasionally disagree).  However, when there's poor performance coupled with absolutely no hustle, I think it riles the fans up.