I am proud of KG & the Celts

[guava_wrench]

We all know Pierce is tough & will play through any injury. Still, he does play the drama queen when he gets hurt, whether it is the stinger or when he hurts his leg.

KG is in no position to complain about anyone talking trash when KG is the worst trash talker in the league. Pierce is one of the worst too, so it is hard to feel bad for him when someone else talks trash. We are talking about 3 individuals who have no class on the basketball court, even if they may be different off the court.

None of that makes a difference. You don't throw elbows during dead balls. If you do, you are mentally weak.

[BudweiserCeltic]

We all know Pierce is tough & will play through any injury. Still, he does play the drama queen when he gets hurt, whether it is the stinger or when he hurts his leg.

KG is in no position to complain about anyone talking trash when KG is the worst trash talker in the league. Pierce is one of the worst too, so it is hard to feel bad for him when someone else talks trash. We are talking about 3 individuals who have no class on the basketball court, even if they may be different off the court.

None of that makes a difference. You don't throw elbows during dead balls. If you do, you are mentally weak.

I don't know if getting carried away with a torn meniscus and then coming back to play is really the definition of being a drama queen.

And KG in no shape or form was complaining about trash talking, he's fine with it. It's about some jackass coming and crowding over a fallen injured teammate talking crap. That's the problem right there.

These are true and valid injuries, not one of those fake injuries players fake just to see if they can get a flagrant called or crap like that. These things hurt, and if he wants to get a moment for himself, particularly with the knee in one of the most important games of his life when he thought it was all over for him, it's completely fine.

[jdpapa3]

We all know Pierce is tough & will play through any injury. Still, he does play the drama queen when he gets hurt, whether it is the stinger or when he hurts his leg.

KG is in no position to complain about anyone talking trash when KG is the worst trash talker in the league. Pierce is one of the worst too, so it is hard to feel bad for him when someone else talks trash. We are talking about 3 individuals who have no class on the basketball court, even if they may be different off the court.

None of that makes a difference. You don't throw elbows during dead balls. If you do, you are mentally weak.

Disagree with just about everything you said here. You don't know what Pierce was feeling, yet you called him a drama queen. So, what advantage is there to doing so? I can see if you play up your injury in a questionably flagrant situation, but the whistle wasn't even blown here. Did Pierce hatch the Finals game 1 plan in his house the day before the game or was he actually in a ton of pain?

KG does talk a ton of trash, but has he ever gone to stand over someone that was injured? Trash talk and being a disrespectful clown are two different ballgames and KG has every right to call that out.

[barefacedmonk]

KG is in no position to complain about anyone talking trash when KG is the worst trash talker in the league. Pierce is one of the worst too, so it is hard to feel bad for him when someone else talks trash.

I don't think KG or PP had a problem with the trash talk....it was the fact that that the NBA-team-hopping-bunny named Q punk came over and started wolfing when PP was down....I've never heard of KG or PP having a problem with or complaining about trash talk....they take it just as well as they dish it out.

[Birdbrain]

I'm embarrassed for PP quite honestly. The guy curls up in a fetal position on the floor of the other teams bench over his shoulder hurting?! If he tore an achilles, rolled an ankle bad, or something with his legs that prevented him from standing up then I can see it. Instead in the middle of the play he lays down and acts like he's dying which started this whole mess. I think Q Richardson is one of the biggest punks in the NBA, so it kills me to say this, but he is right.

"Sometimes (Pierce) falls like he’s about to be out for the season and then he gets right up."

How many times has PP done this and then magically he's back in the game and fine... Had he walked over to the bench and the trainer instead of laying down like a pansy then we'd have KG in this game and not be having this debate.

Sorry. Had to say it. Let the ripping begin!

Regardless of whether Pierce was embellishing or not, do you think that justifies QRich standing over him, talking trash?  At the time, none of us knew how seriously Pierce was injured.  It's completely low class to stand over *any* injured player on the other team and wolf at them.

I do think it's odd that you attack Pierce for 1) QRich's actions, and 2) KG's response.  So, it's Pierce's fault that others don't act with self-control?

I am not justifying his actions at all. I don't blame KG for popping him in the head with the elbow. As I said. Q Rich is a HUGE punk and that part of it made me quite happy.

I do agree with his comment however that PP rolls around on the floor like he's dying and then magically is cured. He has done this quite a few times in his career and he should be embarrassed at the way he makes himself look. THAT is all I am saying.

I realize your first post was troll baiting.  But since you clarified your point.  Let me add that you are aware that he has had shoulder injuries this year correct?  Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

By the way you didn't have to say anything so don't be sorry to say it.

It wasn't troll baiting, it was the truth. I was sorry that many of you would react the way you did, not for what I said. There is a difference in blind kool-aid drinking and being willing to admit that PP can be a little over-dramatic at times. That is why many times when he is driving down the lane between 3 people flailing his arms around he doesn't get the call. The refs know he's that way. You don't have to own up to it, but it is a fact.

I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.  I just don't think you know what your talking about in this instance. 

[Birdbrain]

I also noticed that he didn't lay down where he got hit, he made sure to wander over to lay down on the other teams bench.  Bad things can happen when you lay down in the wrong spot.  Artest's nap on the scorers table comes to mind.

This is wrong as well.  He was pushed by Qball into the bench.

[Birdbrain]

Lets not question other posters toughness or brag of our own in some sort of internet tough guy contest

Not questioning or bragging...but whatever.

You can question paul though.  That's cool.

[Fafnir]

You can question paul though.  That's cool.

Yes you can. Questioning NBA players and coaches is what we do here to a large extent. There is a different standard for other posters.

[barefacedmonk]

Lets not question other posters toughness or brag of our own in some sort of internet tough guy contest

Not questioning or bragging...but whatever.

You can question paul though.  That's cool.

Actually, I was wrong there....that wasn't directed at me specifically, so I owe Fafnir/mods an apology.....but yeah, you can question Paul.....although, I think its silly questioning his toughness...

[indeedproceed]

FWIW I thought Pierce could've been a bit less dramatic about it. I also think KG got out of that scrum pretty fast for being the guy who started it. Remember how people criticized Melo after he sucker punched I think it was Nate Rob then backpedaled the entire length of the court? This was kind of the same thing.

Personally though that's all just splitting hairs. I've taken a knee in rugby before when I was worried I was hurt then realized that although the pain was startling it was not as severe as I had feared. We won the game, so who cares?

[EJPLAYA]

I also noticed that he didn't lay down where he got hit, he made sure to wander over to lay down on the other teams bench.  Bad things can happen when you lay down in the wrong spot.  Artest's nap on the scorers table comes to mind.

I don't think the problem came when he got hit, I think it came he twisted his arm to make a pass in an awkward angle. Anyways, those stingers hurt, even if it's just temporary. It does no one any good for him to just pop right up with his neck and shoulder hurting, best thing is to let the trainers come make sure everything is in order and move from there.

EJ, of all the ridiculous things that I think you've mentioned in this blog, I think this one takes the cake to tell the truth... since we're speaking about the truth and all.

Nothing personal about that at all BudweiserCeltic…  Are you trying to insult me or rebutt the point?

If he had walked over to the trainer instead of falling down on the floor I might have bought your argument. He didn't need to fall down on the floor.

[barefacedmonk]

I also noticed that he didn't lay down where he got hit, he made sure to wander over to lay down on the other teams bench.  Bad things can happen when you lay down in the wrong spot.  Artest's nap on the scorers table comes to mind.

I don't think the problem came when he got hit, I think it came he twisted his arm to make a pass in an awkward angle. Anyways, those stingers hurt, even if it's just temporary. It does no one any good for him to just pop right up with his neck and shoulder hurting, best thing is to let the trainers come make sure everything is in order and move from there.

EJ, of all the ridiculous things that I think you've mentioned in this blog, I think this one takes the cake to tell the truth... since we're speaking about the truth and all.

If he had walked over to the trainer instead of falling down on the floor I might have bought your argument. He didn't need to fall down on the floor.

That can be said of all the players who get injured during the game...well, almost all....I mean there are very few injuries that leave a player incapable of walking...does that mean NBA is a league with many "drama queens"?

[Chris]

I really think the "drama" from Pierce with these injuries is not voluntary.  I am convinced that it just is who he is.  We have all known those people who absolutely freak out at the slightest injury or sickness.  Not because they want attention, but because they legitimately think the worst is happening.

I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

So you might call this weakness, but I don't think he is just being a drama queen.

[Tai]

We all know Pierce is tough & will play through any injury. Still, he does play the drama queen when he gets hurt, whether it is the stinger or when he hurts his leg.

KG is in no position to complain about anyone talking trash when KG is the worst trash talker in the league. Pierce is one of the worst too, so it is hard to feel bad for him when someone else talks trash. We are talking about 3 individuals who have no class on the basketball court, even if they may be different off the court.

None of that makes a difference. You don't throw elbows during dead balls. If you do, you are mentally weak.

"Drama queen" implies that you think he's on the ground for the sake of pity and not cause he's actually hurt. If you think he's a little baby or something for not taking a "stinger" too well, then whatever. But I think these insults over someone dealing with an injury is first-gradish, and that it's very easy to do this from your couch or your desktop or your workplace or your whatever you or anyone posts from.

I mean, EJPLAYA, please get some "Man Laws" amended on how you take an injury like a man. Cause it's clear Paul Pierce has fallen well short of your expectations if you're "embarrassed" by him.  

[EJPLAYA]

Of course you are because you are a Celtics fan. I have in the past as well, but I've just tired of it. Had he not flopped on the floor like a fish we'd have had KG in this next game.

3-4 times flopping doesn't make up for one time getting up. He probably was just making sure that he could go find his teeth more than trying to be tough...

its seems as though you have never had a stinger or ever been injured playing a sport. I have actually had a stinger playing football before and they are really painful and for you to say what someone who is experiencing a stinger should be doing is kind of backwards to me. Id say unless you are the one experiencing the pain, then let him handle it the way he did. And Q's statement after the game is very disrespectful. I dont think any1 can question PP's toughness after the incident like roy said happened. Pierce lost his front teeth (with a NO-CALL) and got up. And as a side note, doesnt Qrich remember a few years ago when dwade dislocated his shoulder and had to be wheeled out in a wheelchair while CRYING. I mean he was literally bawling and had to be wheeled out in a wheelchair for a shoulder injury. Paul's was a knee injury. I dont see you questioning Dwades toughness?

I played in a game after breaking my arm, so I wouldn't be too quick to judge.

If this were the first time that PP had done something like this I wouldn't care. He does it again and again....

First of all....you are judging PP too...just like Billz401 was judging you...and second I have no doubt that PP is one of toughest players in the league....he didn't miss a game even though he was stabbed 11 times..had a bottle smashed over his face....underwent a lung surgery...and yet played all 82 games....now, will you say that he was acting/faking those injuries because he didn't miss any games?

The difference here being that I have seen about every game PP has ever played and Billz has never seen me play. He has no foundation to judge me on. If he had watched every game I had played then he'd have a right to form his own opinion as to MY toughness just like I have a right to form mine about PP. That being said…

I give you a TP for your rebuttal here as I had basically forgotten about PP being stabbed and not missing a game. I will give him HUGE credit for this and to a point take back most of my doubt of his toughness based on this incident alone. He is over dramatic and does like to act like he is hurt more than he really is, however the stabbing incident can make me over look that. Now if someone had video of PP getting stabbed and then getting up to finish his game of pool then I'd be completely convinced!