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Re: I am proud of KG & the Celts
« Reply #60 on: April 19, 2010, 01:58:31 PM »

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I also noticed that he didn't lay down where he got hit, he made sure to wander over to lay down on the other teams bench.  Bad things can happen when you lay down in the wrong spot.  Artest's nap on the scorers table comes to mind.

I don't think the problem came when he got hit, I think it came he twisted his arm to make a pass in an awkward angle. Anyways, those stingers hurt, even if it's just temporary. It does no one any good for him to just pop right up with his neck and shoulder hurting, best thing is to let the trainers come make sure everything is in order and move from there.

EJ, of all the ridiculous things that I think you've mentioned in this blog, I think this one takes the cake to tell the truth... since we're speaking about the truth and all.

Nothing personal about that at all BudweiserCeltic…  Are you trying to insult me or rebutt the point?

If he had walked over to the trainer instead of falling down on the floor I might have bought your argument. He didn't need to fall down on the floor.

He got tripped and pushed for one. Secondly, those stingers go all the way right up to the neck. Thirdly, even with everyone crowding over him, in the middle of the brawl he just stayed there on the ground... I would imagine if he was just being a drama queen about the whole thing he would've done his best to get the heck out of there instead of risking Big Baby landing with his ass on Pierce's face.

Come on now, the guy got a legit injury that's been bothering him for weeks if not longer, he was hurting however temporary it may be. He can sit, lay down on the floor, for all I care until the sensation passes.

As for the rest, you can really take it however you want, I really don't care.

Re: I am proud of KG & the Celts
« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2010, 02:02:23 PM »

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I really think the "drama" from Pierce with these injuries is not voluntary.  I am convinced that it just is who he is.  We have all known those people who absolutely freak out at the slightest injury or sickness.  Not because they want attention, but because they legitimately think the worst is happening.

I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

So you might call this weakness, but I don't think he is just being a drama queen.
Good post, you may be right.  Kinda strange that these incidents always seem to happen only during nationally televised games though.

Re: I am proud of KG & the Celts
« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2010, 02:02:36 PM »

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I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

I agree with this interpretation - a traumatic event like that could easily cause a "freezing up" response when experiencing severe pain later on.  Guy might well have an extremely low threshold for a short-term shock response.

That said, regardless of why Paul clearly does act in an exaggerated way when he's relatively unhurt.

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« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2010, 02:03:12 PM »

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I also think KG got out of that scrum pretty fast for being the guy who started it. Remember how people criticized Melo after he sucker punched I think it was Nate Rob then backpedaled the entire length of the court? This was kind of the same thing.



Disagree. This situation was different. Melo was squared away with who he had the beef with. Everyone that had it in for KG was at his back and he was blind to it.

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« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2010, 02:04:39 PM »

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I really think the "drama" from Pierce with these injuries is not voluntary.  I am convinced that it just is who he is.  We have all known those people who absolutely freak out at the slightest injury or sickness.  Not because they want attention, but because they legitimately think the worst is happening.

I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

So you might call this weakness, but I don't think he is just being a drama queen.
Good post, you may be right.  Kinda strange that these incidents always seem to happen only during nationally televised games though.

I don't think that's true at all.  The most publicized ones do, but it has happened many times that Pierce has gone down, looked like he would be out for the season, and then is in the game at the next whistle.  


Re: I am proud of KG & the Celts
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2010, 02:05:19 PM »

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I really think the "drama" from Pierce with these injuries is not voluntary.  I am convinced that it just is who he is.  We have all known those people who absolutely freak out at the slightest injury or sickness.  Not because they want attention, but because they legitimately think the worst is happening.

I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

So you might call this weakness, but I don't think he is just being a drama queen.
Good post, you may be right.  Kinda strange that these incidents always seem to happen only during nationally televised games though.

You are right....the TMZ crew was right on his heels when he got stabbed. ::)
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Re: I am proud of KG & the Celts
« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2010, 02:06:59 PM »

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I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

I agree with this interpretation - a traumatic event like that could easily cause a "freezing up" response when experiencing severe pain later on.  Guy might well have an extremely low threshold for a short-term shock response.

That said, regardless of why Paul clearly does act in an exaggerated way when he's relatively unhurt.

I agree with this. My opinion of PP as a player isn't changed by his exaggerations. I simply stated I feel embarrassed for the guy because to non-Celtic fans he really must come across as a drama queen. Face it. If every time that Kobe or Lebron got hit he fell to the ground acting like he was killed, then we would have pages and pages of posts ripping the guy to shreds calling them all sorts of things. You know you'd have "Queen Lebron" written more times than any other phrase on here. That being said, I will take the good with the bad. I like a little tougher player. Take Rondo for example. That guy has gotten leveled in the air and come down hard so many times and just pops right back up. I admire that.

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« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2010, 02:07:14 PM »

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I also think KG got out of that scrum pretty fast for being the guy who started it. Remember how people criticized Melo after he sucker punched I think it was Nate Rob then backpedaled the entire length of the court? This was kind of the same thing.



Disagree. This situation was different. Melo was squared away with who he had the beef with. Everyone that had it in for KG was at his back and he was blind to it.

Meh...I'd say from watching it that while you have a point, KG was more worried about getting away with his cheap shot, both in not gettin a sucker punch to the head, and in not getting a tech for a sneaky elbow.

But I could also see how you're saying it happened too.

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« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2010, 02:07:25 PM »

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I really think the "drama" from Pierce with these injuries is not voluntary.  I am convinced that it just is who he is.  We have all known those people who absolutely freak out at the slightest injury or sickness.  Not because they want attention, but because they legitimately think the worst is happening.

I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

So you might call this weakness, but I don't think he is just being a drama queen.
Good post, you may be right.  Kinda strange that these incidents always seem to happen only during nationally televised games though.

You are right....the TMZ crew was right on his heels when he got stabbed. ::)
I didn't see him lay on the court after the stabbing.

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« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2010, 02:08:33 PM »

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I really think the "drama" from Pierce with these injuries is not voluntary.  I am convinced that it just is who he is.  We have all known those people who absolutely freak out at the slightest injury or sickness.  Not because they want attention, but because they legitimately think the worst is happening.

I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

So you might call this weakness, but I don't think he is just being a drama queen.
Good post, you may be right.  Kinda strange that these incidents always seem to happen only during nationally televised games though.

You are right....the TMZ crew was right on his heels when he got stabbed. ::)

I can't even be certain TMZ existed when the stabbing happened.....

Re: I am proud of KG & the Celts
« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2010, 02:09:23 PM »

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I also noticed that he didn't lay down where he got hit, he made sure to wander over to lay down on the other teams bench.  Bad things can happen when you lay down in the wrong spot.  Artest's nap on the scorers table comes to mind.

I don't think the problem came when he got hit, I think it came he twisted his arm to make a pass in an awkward angle. Anyways, those stingers hurt, even if it's just temporary. It does no one any good for him to just pop right up with his neck and shoulder hurting, best thing is to let the trainers come make sure everything is in order and move from there.

EJ, of all the ridiculous things that I think you've mentioned in this blog, I think this one takes the cake to tell the truth... since we're speaking about the truth and all.

Nothing personal about that at all BudweiserCeltic…  Are you trying to insult me or rebutt the point?

If he had walked over to the trainer instead of falling down on the floor I might have bought your argument. He didn't need to fall down on the floor.

He got tripped and pushed for one. Secondly, those stingers go all the way right up to the neck. Thirdly, even with everyone crowding over him, in the middle of the brawl he just stayed there on the ground... I would imagine if he was just being a drama queen about the whole thing he would've done his best to get the heck out of there instead of risking Big Baby landing with his ass on Pierce's face.

Come on now, the guy got a legit injury that's been bothering him for weeks if not longer, he was hurting however temporary it may be. He can sit, lay down on the floor, for all I care until the sensation passes.

As for the rest, you can really take it however you want, I really don't care.

Of course you don't care. That is why you continually make something personal in a large portion of the posts you make. Not sure why you feel the need to do that. Maybe it's easier than making a valid point?!

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« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2010, 02:10:12 PM »

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I really think the "drama" from Pierce with these injuries is not voluntary.  I am convinced that it just is who he is.  We have all known those people who absolutely freak out at the slightest injury or sickness.  Not because they want attention, but because they legitimately think the worst is happening.

I think this is what Pierce does.  He feels the pain or numbness, and immediately shuts down for a few minutes.  Then when he realizes that it isn't catastrophic, he becomes tough again, and plays through the pain.

I also would not be surprised if this all stems from the stabbing.  I can imagine that coming within a couple centimeters of dying might cause you to involuntarily react differently than other people might.

So you might call this weakness, but I don't think he is just being a drama queen.
Good post, you may be right.  Kinda strange that these incidents always seem to happen only during nationally televised games though.

You are right....the TMZ crew was right on his heels when he got stabbed. ::)
I didn't see him lay on the court after the stabbing.

That's irrelevant. The whole argument of bringing his stabbing into this is kinda screwy actually.

So Pierce is a little gunshy about getting hurt. Is it really that big a deal?

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« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2010, 02:14:20 PM »

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« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2010, 02:14:51 PM »

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So he stays in the floor while the stinger goes away and he gets carried out of the floor because a torn meniscus. Is that the best you guys can find as examples for Pierce being a drama queen when he gets hurt through his 12 years of basketball?


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« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2010, 02:17:18 PM »

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So he stays in the floor while the stinger goes away and he gets carried out of the floor because a torn meniscus. Is that the best you guys can find as examples for Pierce being a drama queen when he gets hurt through his 12 years of basketball?


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