If KG is suspended, who starts?

[Birdbrain]

Near the end of the year the C's were playing on TNT and the announcer (can't remember who) said that Sheed is pretty much only a back up 5 now. Stating that he is not fast enough to play with Perk and guard the 4.

Baby starts, plays the 4. Sheed will come in for Perk. You will not see Sheed and Perk on the court at the same time for extended minutes.

I think Perkins is as good a fit with Sheed as BBD is. Both are about as quick on the perimeter.

I think either option has its pros and cons.

Perkins as quick as BBD?

[Fafnir]

Near the end of the year the C's were playing on TNT and the announcer (can't remember who) said that Sheed is pretty much only a back up 5 now. Stating that he is not fast enough to play with Perk and guard the 4.

Baby starts, plays the 4. Sheed will come in for Perk. You will not see Sheed and Perk on the court at the same time for extended minutes.

I think Perkins is as good a fit with Sheed as BBD is. Both are about as quick on the perimeter.

I think either option has its pros and cons.

Perkins as quick as BBD?

At help defense which is my primary concern, yes.

[Birdbrain]

Near the end of the year the C's were playing on TNT and the announcer (can't remember who) said that Sheed is pretty much only a back up 5 now. Stating that he is not fast enough to play with Perk and guard the 4.

Baby starts, plays the 4. Sheed will come in for Perk. You will not see Sheed and Perk on the court at the same time for extended minutes.

I think Perkins is as good a fit with Sheed as BBD is. Both are about as quick on the perimeter.

I think either option has its pros and cons.

Perkins as quick as BBD?

At help defense which is my primary concern, yes.

No not even close in fact that's one of BBDs best qualities and of course the most overlooked by fans.  Where do you think all the charges come from?

[Chris]

Near the end of the year the C's were playing on TNT and the announcer (can't remember who) said that Sheed is pretty much only a back up 5 now. Stating that he is not fast enough to play with Perk and guard the 4.

Baby starts, plays the 4. Sheed will come in for Perk. You will not see Sheed and Perk on the court at the same time for extended minutes.

I think Perkins is as good a fit with Sheed as BBD is. Both are about as quick on the perimeter.

I think either option has its pros and cons.

Perkins as quick as BBD?

At help defense which is my primary concern, yes.

In January I think you would have a case, but in the last few months, Perkins has looked significantly slower.  He is not rotating nearly as quickly, and is constantly not getting back in time to block out his man.  I certainly would not give him any chance at running with Beasley on the perimeter.

[Fafnir]

No not even close in fact that's one of BBDs best qualities and of course the most overlooked by fans. 

Um, okay I'm really not sure what game your watching honestly. BBD tries to take more charges, but Perkins is better at overall help defense with his similar quickness and superior length.

[Greenbean]

Near the end of the year the C's were playing on TNT and the announcer (can't remember who) said that Sheed is pretty much only a back up 5 now. Stating that he is not fast enough to play with Perk and guard the 4.

Baby starts, plays the 4. Sheed will come in for Perk. You will not see Sheed and Perk on the court at the same time for extended minutes.

I think Perkins is as good a fit with Sheed as BBD is. Both are about as quick on the perimeter.

I think either option has its pros and cons.

Perkins as quick as BBD?

At help defense which is my primary concern, yes.

I think Wallace should start.  They need to take more advantage of Beasley down low.  Wallace can do that.  


Let Davis be the big man off the bench.  Either way, he will get plenty of minutes.

This conversation has me questioning whether Sheed can keep up with Beasley on defense. It makes me a little worried but Beas was invisible in game one (largely due to KG).

[Fafnir]

In January I think you would have a case, but in the last few months, Perkins has looked significantly slower.  He is not rotating nearly as quickly, and is constantly not getting back in time to block out his man.  I certainly would not give him any chance at running with Beasley on the perimeter.

True he's been slower the last two months, but even with his injury I'd rather have Perkins in there on defense than BBD.

[Fafnir]

This conversation has me questioning whether Sheed can keep up with Beasley on defense. It makes me a little worried but Beas was invisible in game one (largely due to KG).

I think Sheed and BBD will both struggle with Beasley. But overall as long as they don't let him impact the game on the offensive boards I think the Celtics can survive him initiating the offense off the bounce.

[wdleehi]

Whether it is Wallace, Davis or even Perk; none of them are going to be able to guard Beasley driving.  They all will have to play off him.  Let him have the jumpshot.  (challenge the shot of course, but not really be in position to block said shot)



With Wallace, that lob pass will still be there.  While it will not longer be a ally-opp, it will create an easy shot or foul from behind.  

With Davis, the lob pass will not work as well.

[Greenbean]

Near the end of the year the C's were playing on TNT and the announcer (can't remember who) said that Sheed is pretty much only a back up 5 now. Stating that he is not fast enough to play with Perk and guard the 4.

Baby starts, plays the 4. Sheed will come in for Perk. You will not see Sheed and Perk on the court at the same time for extended minutes.

I think Perkins is as good a fit with Sheed as BBD is. Both are about as quick on the perimeter.

I think either option has its pros and cons.

Perkins as quick as BBD?

At help defense which is my primary concern, yes.

In January I think you would have a case, but in the last few months, Perkins has looked significantly slower.  He is not rotating nearly as quickly, and is constantly not getting back in time to block out his man.  I certainly would not give him any chance at running with Beasley on the perimeter.

Yes it seems that Perk's conditioning has taken a hit. He doesn't finish plays consistently. Granted he has to work hard but he consistently misses box outs after switches.

I think if the ball pressure is better in game 2 from Rondo, we can make Perk's job a little easier but he doesnt look the same out there.

3 Rebs in 25 minutes? Ouch

[Chris]

No not even close in fact that's one of BBDs best qualities and of course the most overlooked by fans. 

Um, okay I'm really not sure what game your watching honestly. BBD tries to take more charges, but Perkins is better at overall help defense with his similar quickness and superior length.

I have to disagree with the similar quickness comment.  Davis is significantly quicker overall.  Perkins, when he is right, makes up for it with his knowledge of the game, as well as his length.  He also is absolutely better at defending the rim because of his length.  But if we are talking pure quickness, then they are not even in the same league.  

[Greenbean]

This conversation has me questioning whether Sheed can keep up with Beasley on defense. It makes me a little worried but Beas was invisible in game one (largely due to KG).

I think Sheed and BBD will both struggle with Beasley. But overall as long as they don't let him impact the game on the offensive boards I think the Celtics can survive him initiating the offense off the bounce.

That's a good point. I'm not sure Beasley has the instincts to take full advantage of his match ups anyway but it is something to look for. He's a real sleepy player.


Edit: I guess what I am truly worried about is Sheed getting beaten off the dribble and doing his lazy reach in routine. That is SHeed at his worse IMO.

[Chris]

In January I think you would have a case, but in the last few months, Perkins has looked significantly slower.  He is not rotating nearly as quickly, and is constantly not getting back in time to block out his man.  I certainly would not give him any chance at running with Beasley on the perimeter.

True he's been slower the last two months, but even with his injury I'd rather have Perkins in there on defense than BBD.

I would too, but not if he is guarding Beasley, who is basically a SF playing PF.  And that is the argument here.  Not only is Perkins not as good on the perimeter as Davis, but it also pulls him away from where he is most valuable (near the basket), and also puts him in a spot where he has especially struggled this year...boxing out quicker guys.  

[Fafnir]

In January I think you would have a case, but in the last few months, Perkins has looked significantly slower.  He is not rotating nearly as quickly, and is constantly not getting back in time to block out his man.  I certainly would not give him any chance at running with Beasley on the perimeter.

True he's been slower the last two months, but even with his injury I'd rather have Perkins in there on defense than BBD.

I would too, but not if he is guarding Beasley, who is basically a SF playing PF.  And that is the argument here.  Not only is Perkins not as good on the perimeter as Davis, but it also pulls him away from where he is most valuable (near the basket), and also puts him in a spot where he has especially struggled this year...boxing out quicker guys.  

You're talking about man to man defense though, I don't think any of our 4s can guard Beasley off the dribble except KG.

I think Perkins is still the superior help defender for when Wade or another Heat player breaks down the defense.

[wdleehi]

Keep Perk on O'Neal.  O'Neal scares more in a single game then Beasley.  If the Heat get a low post game to go with Wade in this series, it makes it much harder to beat them.