If KG is suspended, who starts?

[Birdbrain]

No not even close in fact that's one of BBDs best qualities and of course the most overlooked by fans. 

Um, okay I'm really not sure what game your watching honestly. BBD tries to take more charges, but Perkins is better at overall help defense with his similar quickness and superior length.

You tried to say that BBD is not better than Perkins at help defense because Perkins is quicker or even in same hemisphere with regards to quickness.  I don't agree in the least.  Maybe we see the game differently.  Not sure why it matters anyway.  Perkins will be starting it's the other guy that matters in this discussion.  

[Fafnir]

You tried to say that BBD is not better than Perkins at help defense because Perkins is quicker or even in same hemisphere with regards to quickness.  I don't agree in the least.  Maybe we see the game differently.  Not sure why it matters anyway.  Perkins will be starting it's the other guy that matters in this discussion.  

We all have our binkies.

It matters because I like the defensive combo of Perkins/Sheed better than Sheed/BBD or Perkins/BBD. I like having the size to beat up on Miami, because if we're matching quickness then we'll get beat. I think their help defense speed is the same, and Perkins has many other advantages

Now neither Sheed/Perkins played well in Game 1, so Doc needs to watch that and have a quick hook if either struggles.

[ThaPreacher]

Rasheed should start if KG is suspended. I don't like going small right out of the gate when we should be using our size advantage on the Heat. Beasly can't defend Rasheed and hopefully we could take advantage of that to get him in foul trouble or get some easy buckets.

LOL.

No one ever said Big Baby could get easy Buckets.  I don't think he can touch backboards!  But he does have a wide body.
Like to see Sheed start.  But the Celtics have to go with Tony Allen on Dwade, so should be curious.

[EJPLAYA]

Sheed. Not even a question. He is BY FAR the most talented big we have out there. He performs better starting anyway. We've seen this a few times this year already. BBD fills Sheed's spot, and Shelden fills BBD's. Why is this even a debate?!

[Birdbrain]

You tried to say that BBD is not better than Perkins at help defense because Perkins is quicker or even in same hemisphere with regards to quickness.  I don't agree in the least.  Maybe we see the game differently.  Not sure why it matters anyway.  Perkins will be starting it's the other guy that matters in this discussion.  

We all have our binkies.

It matters because I like the defensive combo of Perkins/Sheed better than Sheed/BBD or Perkins/BBD. I like having the size to beat up on Miami, because if we're matching quickness then we'll get beat. I think their help defense speed is the same, and Perkins has many other advantages

Now neither Sheed/Perkins played well in Game 1, so Doc needs to watch that and have a quick hook if either struggles.

I don't even know what Binkies means. 

What we get in offense we will give up in lateral quickness on defense.  Both Sheed and Perkins will not be able to stay anywhere close to Beasley off the dribble.  And neither are quick enough to help out the other once he gets by them.

Again I was commenting on your opinion with regard to Perkins being as a quick as BBD.  I really don't care who starts.  They will all play significant minutes.

[Fafnir]

Binkie means players who can do no wrong in your eye. Your favorites, your binkie. Everyone has a favorite player or binkie.

Both Sheed and Perkins will not be able to stay anywhere close to Beasley off the dribble.

Neither can Davis.

Again I was commenting on your opinion with regard to Perkins being as a quick as BBD

I still disagree with you on that one, BBD is not quicker than Perkins on help defense. On the perimeter and straight line speed he is, but not on rotating to help or hedging.

Though as Chris pointed out Perkins is up and down lately.

[nickagneta]

If this was Orlando, I would say Scal. Given the person that the team would need to defend would be Beasley, I say Baby. I would want Rasheed coming off the bench to play Haslem.

[kozlodoev]

Rasheed will start, and we will likely try to establish him offensively against Beasley.

In the end, Davis might end up playing more minutes over the course of the game, as we use him for defensive purposes (yes, he _is_ better in guarding Beasley than any other big man we have on the roster), and Rasheed and Perkins split time at the C position.

Can't say I see anything bad with this strategy either.

[Vermont Green]

I can't predict what Doc will do but I would start Davis.  If you start Sheed, then both Sheed and Davis have their "normal" rotation changed.  If you start Davis and leave Sheed as first off the bench, then you only change 1.

[Evantime34]

In January I think you would have a case, but in the last few months, Perkins has looked significantly slower.  He is not rotating nearly as quickly, and is constantly not getting back in time to block out his man.  I certainly would not give him any chance at running with Beasley on the perimeter.

True he's been slower the last two months, but even with his injury I'd rather have Perkins in there on defense than BBD.

I would too, but not if he is guarding Beasley, who is basically a SF playing PF.  And that is the argument here.  Not only is Perkins not as good on the perimeter as Davis, but it also pulls him away from where he is most valuable (near the basket), and also puts him in a spot where he has especially struggled this year...boxing out quicker guys.  

You're talking about man to man defense though, I don't think any of our 4s can guard Beasley off the dribble except KG.

I think Perkins is still the superior help defender for when Wade or another Heat player breaks down the defense.

Perk looks like a better help defender for several reasons.
1. He plays the 5, so his man is almost always around the paint. It is much easier for Perk to slide over to help on a drive when his man is right next to the basket. 4's move a lot more and are more likely to hit a deep shot, so for him to get in to the paint is much more difficult than for Perk who is already in position.
2. Perk is not quicker but anticipates where to be in help defense. Baby just reacts.

I agree with what your saying but I think you could state it in another way that would make it more difficult to argue against. Perk is quicker than BBD is basely untrue. "Perk has better positioning which allows him to play defense against some quicker players" would be more accurate.

[MBunge]

Sheed. Not even a question. He is BY FAR the most talented big we have out there.

Uh, have you even WATCHED a game this season?

Mike

[Mr October]

Ultimately I don't think it matters very much who starts between Davis and Wallace.

Why Wallace? The Celtics can continue to use their size as an advantage up front. Plus I like the energy boost that Davis (and TA) give the team (and the home crowd in Boston). Wallace also plays better as a starter.

Why Davis? He can move his feet faster on defense compared to Perk and Sheed. His energy might be a nice boost right out of the gates.

I think i'm leaning towards Wallace. Yet Davis might be the guy who gets the most minutes of the 3 by game's end.

[fairweatherfan]

Sheed. Not even a question. He is BY FAR the most talented big we have out there.

Uh, have you even WATCHED a game this season?

He said talented, not hardest-working.  Sheed's skill set dwarfs any big on the team not named KG.  That's why so many coaches and teammates have put up with his bull over the years.

[Tai]

You are both right, it doesn't matter what we think/want..and doc would never start sheldon, heck, that game when he was hot, 12 in 12, doc pulled him....don't get me started on doc, he may have been smart as a guard.....i think he was embarrassed that sheldon did so good....he likes a team that runs itself, he just wants to enjoy a game with good seats...! but starting TA or MD on wade...well, doc just goes with the script, why use strategy, like homer simpson says "oh brain, i don't want to think, i just want to watch the game!".

Sheldon's probably gonna play regardless with KG out, so hopefully he makes us proud.

Uh...is Doc really not using his brain just cause he starts Ray Allen over TA or MD? We get it (at least I do), TA can definitely defend Wade better than Ray. On top of that, Ray's shot was cold in Game 1. Still, Doc sure seemed to have the brain to sit Ray and have TA finish the game.

 If Ray's shot is on Game 2, surely he can START, especially since that doesn't eliminate the chance TA finishes, Ray on the court with him or not.

[jdpapa3]

Forsberg just tweeted that Baby is practicing with the starters for now. Still not set in stone, but it definitely tells you which way Doc is leaning.

I like it that way because Sheed probably has the best shot at covering both positions vs. the Heat.