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Would Pierce opt out to go home?
« on: April 09, 2010, 10:11:59 PM »

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It just might be in Paul Pierce's best interest to opt out of his contract and try to sign a three or four year deal for his last contract at a really nice 8 digit number. It might, however, might NOT be in the Boston Celtics' best interest to sign him to that contract. That type of contract con seriously hamper this team in the future, especially if Paul's game is in serious decline.

So if Paul opts out and the C's decide they just can't re-sign him for what he's looking for, it's either a serious home team discount or they have to pass, would Paul Pierce go home? No, not to the Lakers. To the Clippers!!

The Clippers are in serious need of a starting SF that could solidify their team. They have the cap room to offer something along the lines of 4 years $50 million. Baron Davis is their PG and he is one of Pierce's best friends. Also, they have some very nice other parts in Chris Kaman, next year's ROY Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, and possibly a top 7 pick in a deep draft.

I want Paul Pierce to end his career as a Celtic. But ending his career as a Celtic might not be in the best financial interests of Paul Pierce and his family.

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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 10:18:53 PM »

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But ending his career as a Celtic might not be in the best financial interests of Paul Pierce and his family,or the Celtics.

The only thing that might hold it back is the C's marketing, which should be transitioning to a Rondo-centered theme anyway.

Some say Pierce is this era's Bird, but that's a bit silly to me.  Bird was one of the best ever and dominated every opponent.  Pierce [was] a star, but I don't think they're even close to in the same league.

And I don't really want to keep watching PP fall apart.  Sorry.

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 10:20:14 PM »

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It just might be in Paul Pierce's best interest to opt out of his contract and try to sign a three or four year deal for his last contract at a really nice 8 digit number. It might, however, might NOT be in the Boston Celtics' best interest to sign him to that contract. That type of contract con seriously hamper this team in the future, especially if Paul's game is in serious decline.

So if Paul opts out and the C's decide they just can't re-sign him for what he's looking for, it's either a serious home team discount or they have to pass, would Paul Pierce go home? No, not to the Lakers. To the Clippers!!

The Clippers are in serious need of a starting SF that could solidify their team. They have the cap room to offer something along the lines of 4 years $50 million. Baron Davis is their PG and he is one of Pierce's best friends. Also, they have some very nice other parts in Chris Kaman, next year's ROY Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, and possibly a top 7 pick in a deep draft.

I want Paul Pierce to end his career as a Celtic. But ending his career as a Celtic might not be in the best financial interests of Paul Pierce and his family.

No way. Pierce has too much hubris to go to a team like the Clippers and their horrible history, especially in his home city.

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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 10:23:16 PM »

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It just might be in Paul Pierce's best interest to opt out of his contract and try to sign a three or four year deal for his last contract at a really nice 8 digit number. It might, however, might NOT be in the Boston Celtics' best interest to sign him to that contract. That type of contract con seriously hamper this team in the future, especially if Paul's game is in serious decline.

So if Paul opts out and the C's decide they just can't re-sign him for what he's looking for, it's either a serious home team discount or they have to pass, would Paul Pierce go home? No, not to the Lakers. To the Clippers!!

The Clippers are in serious need of a starting SF that could solidify their team. They have the cap room to offer something along the lines of 4 years $50 million. Baron Davis is their PG and he is one of Pierce's best friends. Also, they have some very nice other parts in Chris Kaman, next year's ROY Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, and possibly a top 7 pick in a deep draft.

I want Paul Pierce to end his career as a Celtic. But ending his career as a Celtic might not be in the best financial interests of Paul Pierce and his family.

I'm not saying your post has no merit...I'm just saying I am absolutely not ready for it yet.

EDIT: Again, not to bag on the post because it was well thought out..but jeez tonight's loss was exhausting..and I only saw half.
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Re: Would Pierce opt out to go home?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 10:39:25 PM »

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next year's ROY Blake Griffin,

sorry, just wanted to comment on this.

you really think so?  i doubt it.  i think griffin would have gone 3rd or 4th if he had waited till this year to declare.  He'll probably exceed my expectations if he averages a double double next season (or more than 12 ppg).  he might not have even been the ROY this year considering Tyreke's historic 20/5/5 numbers.

John Wall / Evan Turner should be heavy favorites for ROY next season
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 10:47:16 PM »

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Totally disagree. Griffin, when healthy, is a transformative player as a big, a role neither Wall nor Turner is remotely ready to fill at this point. Neither has the experience, or the body, to do what Griffin will do next year in LA.

I don't see it as close, frankly.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 10:47:29 PM »

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next year's ROY Blake Griffin,

sorry, just wanted to comment on this.

you really think so?  i doubt it.  i think griffin would have gone 3rd or 4th if he had waited till this year to declare.  He'll probably exceed my expectations if he averages a double double next season (or more than 12 ppg).  he might not have even been the ROY this year considering Tyreke's historic 20/5/5 numbers.

John Wall / Evan Turner should be heavy favorites for ROY next season
I'm expecting Blake Griffin to average somewhere close to 20/10 and to do so efficiently too.

Evan Turner and John Wall should give strong competition though.

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 12:00:31 AM »

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Paul Pierce won't make 20 million in his career after next year. There is no way he opts out of his contract. The next CBA might reduce the salary cap 30% and limit maximum salaries to 12 million annually after a two year lockout and up to 6 teams fold.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 12:12:56 AM »

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haha and leave 21 million on the table. would you?

Re: Would Pierce opt out to go home?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 12:39:53 AM »

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I'd offer Pierce a 2 year/32 mil deal if he opted out.  No sense going past the expiration of KG's and Sheed's deals.  Gives us a little less of a luxury tax and maybe puts ownership in a better position to swallow a big contract in a trade.

Pierce has looked too old for the past two years for me to be comfortable with anything longer.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 12:44:45 AM »

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I'd offer Pierce a 2 year/32 mil deal if he opted out.  No sense going past the expiration of KG's and Sheed's deals.  Gives us a little less of a luxury tax and maybe puts ownership in a better position to swallow a big contract in a trade.

Pierce has looked too old for the past two years for me to be comfortable with anything longer.

AAACK.

We should be looking to divest ourselves of PP and his declining years. Not asking for more.

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 01:45:57 AM »

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next year's ROY Blake Griffin,

sorry, just wanted to comment on this.

you really think so?  i doubt it.  i think griffin would have gone 3rd or 4th if he had waited till this year to declare.  He'll probably exceed my expectations if he averages a double double next season (or more than 12 ppg).  he might not have even been the ROY this year considering Tyreke's historic 20/5/5 numbers.

John Wall / Evan Turner should be heavy favorites for ROY next season
I'm expecting Blake Griffin to average somewhere close to 20/10 and to do so efficiently too.

Evan Turner and John Wall should give strong competition though.

eh...I highly doubt that.  Griffin is a good prospect but he'd have to be pretty spectacular to average 20 / 10 in his first season especially alongside Chris Kaman (who already scores and rebounds plenty).
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 02:47:26 AM »

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next year's ROY Blake Griffin,

sorry, just wanted to comment on this.

you really think so?  i doubt it.  i think griffin would have gone 3rd or 4th if he had waited till this year to declare.  He'll probably exceed my expectations if he averages a double double next season (or more than 12 ppg).  he might not have even been the ROY this year considering Tyreke's historic 20/5/5 numbers.

John Wall / Evan Turner should be heavy favorites for ROY next season
I'm expecting Blake Griffin to average somewhere close to 20/10 and to do so efficiently too.

Evan Turner and John Wall should give strong competition though.

eh...I highly doubt that.  Griffin is a good prospect but he'd have to be pretty spectacular to average 20 / 10 in his first season especially alongside Chris Kaman (who already scores and rebounds plenty).
I think Griffin is more effective offensively than Kaman. I think he'll be more efficient as a scorer. A superior option in the pick and roll/pop, has a better midrange jump shot, is far better in transition, far superior at drawing fouls and getting to the line, and, is a comparable finisher around the rim. I think Griffin will also be a better decision maker with the ball in his hands too.

Kaman is a twenty point scorer largely because the Clippers have a poor offense so he gets a lot of touches and shot attempts (16 per game -- 20th in league -- 18.4ppg on 15.8 FGAs and 3.9 FTAs a night). The Clippers are 26th in offensive efficiency and 23rd in TS%. I don't think Griffin have any problems getting touches on that squad. Especially considering how well he can play off of others (transition, pick and roll, finishing plays).

Rebounds aren't an issue with the Clippers because none of their perimeter players grab any. Both players will average close to ten rebounds in 35 minutes a night on that squad. Kaman and Gooden both average around 19.5 rebounds a night while Camby and Kaman combined to average more around 21 rebounds a night.

I think Blake Griffin is a ready made 20/10 player in terms of scoring ability and rebounding ability. However, I think his defense and his passing ability are dodgy and definitely works in progress.

Those were my expectations heading into this season. Unless his injury has seriously impacted his game, I see no reason to change them.

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2010, 06:43:19 AM »

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But ending his career as a Celtic might not be in the best financial interests of Paul Pierce and his family,or the Celtics.

The only thing that might hold it back is the C's marketing, which should be transitioning to a Rondo-centered theme anyway.

Some say Pierce is this era's Bird, but that's a bit silly to me.  Bird was one of the best ever and dominated every opponent.  Pierce [was] a star, but I don't think they're even close to in the same league.

And I don't really want to keep watching PP fall apart.  Sorry.

Rondo-centered theme???? Oh boy, tons and tons of turnovers for years to come

Re: Would Pierce opt out to go home?
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2010, 08:03:43 AM »

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haha and leave 21 million on the table. would you?
At the expense of possibly never making another penny playing basketball after that(clearly a stretch I know but a possibility depending upon the length of the lockout)?

If he can opt out and sign a $50 million contract, and believe me his agent will already have assurances of offers that big before he advised Paul to opt out, The why wouldn't he opt out of a $21 million contract when there is a distinct possibility of a lockout and then no one wanting to give Paul anything more than a one year deal for very little money thereafter considering the length of time away from the game and his age.

Marbury was forced to take a year off from ball at the age of 30 and went from a 15 PPG game scorer who could shoot a TS% of 53% to a 4 PPG scorer who could only shoot a TS% of 38%. A year away from the game at the age of 34 is probably going to have a horrible effect on Pierce and you can bet teams will not be rushing to hand him offers to sign.