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Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #165 on: April 09, 2010, 09:07:53 PM »

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Our team defense was built around KG as the quick 4: it's not working anymore.  KG can still rebound, shoot, pass and defend the post against non-Shaqs, he just can't hedge and recover on quick, slashing jumpshooting 4s (of which there is an amazing variety nowadays) anymore.

That means adding a real 4 to the team instead of slogging forward with the a trio of slow, unathletic 5s as KG-complements.
If you switch Garnett to the five, which of the following types of power forwards would you like to see Boston try to go forward with:

(1) A prototypical power forward like Scola. Good body. Rebounds. Solid all-round game.

(2) A PF/C combo with good athleticism and mobility like Varejao. Someone who can defend top post scorers when necessary but otherwise will defend the four.

(3) An athletic defensive minded power forward like a Ty Thomas

(4) A perimeter orientated power forward like a Jeff Green who can stretch out the offense and create amazing spacing for Rondo to work with + for Garnett to exploit against slow footed centers.

I'm undecided on which type of a power forward would be the ideal fit for Garnett at this point.

Any of the first 3 sound acceptable to me.  Basically the Celtics need somebody who is fast, athletic, long, and energetic.  They need a player with length that can score consistently inside and rebound at a high rate.
Yeah, I'd avoid the fourth option and any PF who is below average defensively.

Outside of that limitation, I'm not sure where to go next. Not sure what abilities I'd prioritize.

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #166 on: April 09, 2010, 09:08:05 PM »

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boy....i am having a hard time seeing this team even being a factor in the east next season. this team needs a complete makeover in a hurry. KG, PP look like they have zero left...Ray would be a great 6th man and we are already going to have to replace pretty much all of the bench next season...next season is looking scary

We're pretty much stuck with this team more or less as is for the next couple of years, unless Danny manages to trade Perk for something.


i would make everyone available except rondo. but it is going to be hard to watch these guys the next 2 years

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #167 on: April 09, 2010, 09:09:32 PM »

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Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #168 on: April 09, 2010, 09:09:37 PM »

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Not watching this one... Just checked on the box score though... Screw catching the remaining reg season games.

See y'all in the playoffs.

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #169 on: April 09, 2010, 09:10:47 PM »

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I want to punch this team in the face.

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #170 on: April 09, 2010, 09:11:00 PM »

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yeah, we have to keep trying to win this. it's necessary.

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #171 on: April 09, 2010, 09:11:11 PM »

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Not watching this one... Just checked on the box score though... Screw catching the remaining reg season games.

See y'all in the playoffs.


it might be a quick playoffs too unfortunately

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #172 on: April 09, 2010, 09:12:25 PM »

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 Our team defense was built around KG as the quick 4: it's not working anymore.  KG can still rebound, shoot, pass and defend the post against non-Shaqs, he just can't hedge and recover on quick, slashing jumpshooting 4s (of which there is an amazing variety nowadays) anymore.

That means adding a real 4 to the team instead of slogging forward with the a trio of slow, unathletic 5s as KG-complements.
If you switch Garnett to the five, which of the following types of power forwards would you like to see Boston try to go forward with:

(1) A prototypical power forward like Scola. Good body. Rebounds. Solid all-round game.

(2) A PF/C combo with good athleticism and mobility like Varejao. Someone who can defend top post scorers when necessary but otherwise will defend the four.

(3) An athletic defensive minded power forward like a Ty Thomas

(4) A perimeter orientated power forward like a Jeff Green who can stretch out the offense and create amazing spacing for Rondo to work with + for Garnett to exploit against slow footed centers.

I'm undecided on which type of a power forward would be the ideal fit for Garnett at this point.

I'd want a speed advantage at both positions to make-up for our slow wings and give Rondo better targets.  I'd want length and defensive intensity to make up for the lack of bulk.  

So of the types you've described I'd prefer the Varejao or Thomas variety: good defense and a quickness advantage from either athleticism or hustle.

With KG at the 5, you don't need much offensive creation ability from your 4.
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Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #173 on: April 09, 2010, 09:12:47 PM »

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Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #174 on: April 09, 2010, 09:13:06 PM »

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if you told me in the summer boston would struggle to win 50 games...i would have laughed at you. i mean they are just barely going to get to 50 wins...if we are lucky

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #175 on: April 09, 2010, 09:13:51 PM »

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yeah, we have to keep trying to win this. it's necessary.

I agree.

Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #176 on: April 09, 2010, 09:14:32 PM »

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this team is without heart. I don't care about them losing or resting guys...but nobody is even trying. Disgusting.
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Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #177 on: April 09, 2010, 09:15:13 PM »

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I want to punch this team in the face.

Well put.  

I do like the effort I'm seeing out of Rondo, though.  If we can get this team some quickness and on-the-run finishing ability to go with Ray and Pierce's shooting, his impact will be immense.
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Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #178 on: April 09, 2010, 09:15:26 PM »

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Re: Wizards (24-54) at Celtics (49-29) 4/9
« Reply #179 on: April 09, 2010, 09:16:24 PM »

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holy crap!!!  i don't have the nba package and i've been watching baseball.  finally looked the score up on the internet and the celtics are down 25 to this pile of dung?  my gosh...this team is just awful.  and they think they have a shot in the playoffs?  what a joke.
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