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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

So Minny starts Darko? I'd rather keep AL Jeff and overpay Rudy Gay.

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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

So Minny starts Darko? I'd rather keep AL Jeff and overpay Rudy Gay.
It makes no difference to me who is on that team currently. I'd breaking up the Love + Jefferson partnership anyway. It's just about who I'd prefer to build around long term.

I was simply saying that Jeff Green + Kevin Love could play alongside one another. I prefer Green as a small forward versus a perimeter orientated power forward. I think he's more effective as a small forward, he becomes an above average defender + rebounder at that position. Green loses some of his offensive play but I think he gains more (defense/rebounding) than he loses (offense). A Tayshaun Prince type of small forward.

Hmm ... Ricky Rubio + Rudy Gay + Jeff Green + Kevin Love + defensive minded center ... interesting.

Edit: Nah, not enough scoring potential in that lineup. They would need a center who can be a second go-to scoring option while still providing a defensive presence. Tough to find. Love is ideally a third option offensively, Green a third or fourth option, and Rubio a fourth or fifth option. Lot of pressure on the other two starters.
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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

So Minny starts Darko? I'd rather keep AL Jeff and overpay Rudy Gay.
It makes no difference to me who is on that team currently. I'd breaking up the Love + Jefferson partnership anyway. It's just about who I'd prefer to build around long term.

I was simply saying that Jeff Green + Kevin Love could play alongside one another. I prefer Green as a small forward versus a perimeter orientated power forward. I think he's more effective as a small forward, he becomes an above average defender + rebounder at that position. Green loses some of his offensive play but I think he gains more (defense/rebounding) than he loses (offense). A Tayshaun Prince type of small forward.

Hmm ... Ricky Rubio + Rudy Gay + Jeff Green + Kevin Love + defensive minded center ... interesting.

Edit: Nah, not enough scoring potential in that lineup. They would need a center who can be a second go-to scoring option while still providing a defensive presence. Tough to find. Love is ideally a third option offensively, Green a third or fourth option, and Rubio a fourth or fifth option. Lot of pressure on the other two starters.

Agreed, and that's why i don't like this trade in particular, but I don't think breaking up Love and Al Jeff is a bad idea either.

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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

So Minny starts Darko? I'd rather keep AL Jeff and overpay Rudy Gay.
It makes no difference to me who is on that team currently. I'd breaking up the Love + Jefferson partnership anyway. It's just about who I'd prefer to build around long term.

I was simply saying that Jeff Green + Kevin Love could play alongside one another. I prefer Green as a small forward versus a perimeter orientated power forward. I think he's more effective as a small forward, he becomes an above average defender + rebounder at that position. Green loses some of his offensive play but I think he gains more (defense/rebounding) than he loses (offense). A Tayshaun Prince type of small forward.

Hmm ... Ricky Rubio + Rudy Gay + Jeff Green + Kevin Love + defensive minded center ... interesting.

Edit: Nah, not enough scoring potential in that lineup. They would need a center who can be a second go-to scoring option while still providing a defensive presence. Tough to find. Love is ideally a third option offensively, Green a third or fourth option, and Rubio a fourth or fifth option. Lot of pressure on the other two starters.

You're forgetting that Minnie has two first round draft picks this year, including a top 5 pick that could become Evan Turner, Derrick Favors, Wesley Johnson, or Al-Farouq Aminu.  I'd say who they get in the draft will determine their decision making regarding possible trades.
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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

So Minny starts Darko? I'd rather keep AL Jeff and overpay Rudy Gay.
It makes no difference to me who is on that team currently. I'd breaking up the Love + Jefferson partnership anyway. It's just about who I'd prefer to build around long term.

I was simply saying that Jeff Green + Kevin Love could play alongside one another. I prefer Green as a small forward versus a perimeter orientated power forward. I think he's more effective as a small forward, he becomes an above average defender + rebounder at that position. Green loses some of his offensive play but I think he gains more (defense/rebounding) than he loses (offense). A Tayshaun Prince type of small forward.

Hmm ... Ricky Rubio + Rudy Gay + Jeff Green + Kevin Love + defensive minded center ... interesting.

Edit: Nah, not enough scoring potential in that lineup. They would need a center who can be a second go-to scoring option while still providing a defensive presence. Tough to find. Love is ideally a third option offensively, Green a third or fourth option, and Rubio a fourth or fifth option. Lot of pressure on the other two starters.

You're forgetting that Minnie has two first round draft picks this year, including a top 5 pick that could become Evan Turner, Derrick Favors, Wesley Johnson, or Al-Farouq Aminu.  I'd say who they get in the draft will determine their decision making regarding possible trades.
Exactly.

If they get Wall in the draft, they can flip the rights to Rubio for another high pick or current top-quality player.  Add that other pick they currently have in this deep draft.  Then, if they make this proposed deal, toss in Jeff Green as your new SF, another 1st round pick in somewhere around #20-22 AND I believe moving Al frees up some $ to make them a player for a decent FA.  Now you're looking at this for next year:
Wall, Green and Love as your definite starters.  Add in either a good FA 2-guard (maybe Gay) or Center.  The spot not filled by the FA would be filled with the solid player they swap for Rubio's rights.  You can now have a solid starting 5.  The bench begins solidifying with Sessions, Brewer, Flynn, Gomes, Milicic and the other 2 first round draft picks this year. 

Assuming Wall projects out to be Derrick Rose-level of talent, that team would be rising up the ladder within 2 years as they learn to play together and move some of their smaller pieces for find other players that fit better.

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I thought Minny already had 3 first round picks.......lottery, the Charlotte pick and a pick in the late 20's....?

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I personally would hate to see the Green/Big Al switch.  There is  something amazing about the chemistry (on and off the court) that the Thunder have.  I would truly hate to see Green and Durant separated.  The bond that these guys are able to build while being young and single is truly fun to watch.  It will be interesting to see what Presti is able to do when it comes time to give all these lottery picks money.  If Ibaka keeps evolving into the defensive force that they hope, then there is not a whole lot of need for signing a max guy to be there for rebounding.

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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

Jeff Green may end up being a better compliment to Durant than Jefferson.

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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

Jeff Green may end up being a better compliment to Durant than Jefferson.

Not so sure...the one thing the Thunder really lack at the moment is a player who can score inside consistently - exactly like Al Jefferson.  This was abundantly clear yesterday when they got dominated by Marcus Camby.
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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

Jeff Green may end up being a better compliment to Durant than Jefferson.

Not so sure...the one thing the Thunder really lack at the moment is a player who can score inside consistently - exactly like Al Jefferson.  This was abundantly clear yesterday when they got dominated by Marcus Camby.
But Big Al creates tons of defensive issues at the other end.

I don't know, I do think that Jeff Green is best at SF in the end. Which is why the Thunder should trade him, Durant needs to play that slot.

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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

Jeff Green may end up being a better compliment to Durant than Jefferson.

Not so sure...the one thing the Thunder really lack at the moment is a player who can score inside consistently - exactly like Al Jefferson.  This was abundantly clear yesterday when they got dominated by Marcus Camby.
But Big Al creates tons of defensive issues at the other end.

I don't know, I do think that Jeff Green is best at SF in the end. Which is why the Thunder should trade him, Durant needs to play that slot.
Kevin Durant may become a power forward down the road. As he adds a bit more muscle and know-how. Durant would be able to use his rebounding skills to greater effect and would have more opportunity to use his team defense + shot blocking skills. A lot depends on how his body develops but he could very well end up being best off as a power forward.

So, Oklahoma should wait on that and see if there is a natural switch that can be made. And in meantime, they should monitor Jeff Green and see if he can improve his defense but offensively having a PF like him is a big bonus.

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I would love to see the Blazers find a way to acquire Ben Gordon. I think he'd be an excellent complement to Brandon Roy in the backcourt and that his scoring/shooting threat but would an excellent complement to the Roy/Aldridge/Oden trio.

I think Gordon would turn Portland into the best team in the league.

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I don't know why Minny would want to play Green and Love together. At least Al Jeff and Love make sense on offense.
Jeff Green can play the three. I prefer him there too.

Jeff Green may end up being a better compliment to Durant than Jefferson.

Not so sure...the one thing the Thunder really lack at the moment is a player who can score inside consistently - exactly like Al Jefferson.  This was abundantly clear yesterday when they got dominated by Marcus Camby.
But Big Al creates tons of defensive issues at the other end.

I don't know, I do think that Jeff Green is best at SF in the end. Which is why the Thunder should trade him, Durant needs to play that slot.
Kevin Durant may become a power forward down the road. As he adds a bit more muscle and know-how. Durant would be able to use his rebounding skills to greater effect and would have more opportunity to use his team defense + shot blocking skills. A lot depends on how his body develops but he could very well end up being best off as a power forward.

So, Oklahoma should wait on that and see if there is a natural switch that can be made. And in meantime, they should monitor Jeff Green and see if he can improve his defense but offensively having a PF like him is a big bonus.
I hadn't thought of him moving down the 4, not sure if I see it happening but you're right on that part.

Problem is they have to pay Jeff Green or move him before that'll likely happen.

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I would love to see the Blazers find a way to acquire Ben Gordon. I think he'd be an excellent complement to Brandon Roy in the backcourt and that his scoring/shooting threat but would an excellent complement to the Roy/Aldridge/Oden trio.

I think Gordon would turn Portland into the best team in the league.
At this point I don't think they'll ever all be healthy, which sucks.

Playing alongside a Mo Williams/Ben Gordon type would help Roy out a ton though.

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I kind of like Green, but aren't we overrating him a little (while undervaluing Big Al). I am not saying that guys like Green are a dime a dozen, but players with Big Al's ability are a lot more rare. I realize he still needs a little help on defense, but everytime I see him play and fake everyone out with his post moves, I am always impressed. The injury certainly affected his development, but he is still a very solid player and I would love to have him back.