Should TA Be Re-Signed?

[Ersatz]

I little over the deep end with the Tony love here.

Shane Battier
Dwayne Wade
Kobe Bryant
Aaron Afflalo
Thabo Sefolosha
Dahntay Jones
Andre Iguodala
Brandon Roy
Corey Brewer
Ronnie Brewer
Kirk Hinrich
Courtney Lee
Rip Hamilton

Sorry, Tony is not ALL-NBA anything if he were to become a starter somewhere. That's just not true.

I did mention Bryant and Wade. Battier plays the 3. Of the rest, only Corey Brewer is as lockdown as Tony. I'd take Tony's defense over the rest of that list any day.

[mgent]

If we resign Nate I'd like to use the MLE on a SF/swingman that can shoot and defend (not Marquis Daniels).  Then resign Tony as the 4th wing.

[Who]

Rasual Butler. Raja Bell. Keith Bogans. Dorrell Wright. Quentin Richardson. Rodney Carney. Bobby Simmons.

Those are the names I would be looking at for the Celtics as my first tier of choices. Tony Allen would be in the second tier (near the top) along with players like Ime Udoka, Dominic McGuire, Quinton Ross, Sasha Pavlovic, Trenton Hassell, Larry Hughes, Damien Wilkins.

[Mr October]

I little over the deep end with the Tony love here.

Shane Battier
Dwayne Wade
Kobe Bryant
Aaron Afflalo
Thabo Sefolosha
Dahntay Jones
Andre Iguodala
Brandon Roy
Corey Brewer
Ronnie Brewer
Kirk Hinrich
Courtney Lee
Rip Hamilton

Sorry, Tony is not ALL-NBA anything if he were to become a starter somewhere. That's just not true.

I did mention Bryant and Wade. Battier plays the 3. Of the rest, only Corey Brewer is as lockdown as Tony. I'd take Tony's defense over the rest of that list any day.

I dont have specific players in mind, but I agree with Nick (and most experts) that Tony is a decent to good defender, who gambles too much.

Tony is not lock-down at all. When I think lock-down, I think the defender actually can shut down an opponent - like Jordan, Pippen, Artest, Bowen, Bell, etc in their prime.

In terms of potential, Tony has the foot speed to stay in front of people if he would gamble less. But he is also undersized unlike the above mentioned 2/3's, and lacks the wingspan to truely be lock down.

[Who]

Top defensive staring shooting guards -- Thabo Sefolosha, Joe Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, Eric Gordon, Stephen Jackson, Corey Brewer, Rip Hamilton, Courtney Lee, Arron Afflalo. Wilson Chandler, Kirk Hinrich and Brandon Rush.

Also, Andre Iguodala if you consider him a two.

I would rank Tony Allen's defense somewhere between 9th and 15th off of that list. He is very close to the three players directly ahead of him so you could make a case he's 6th-to-10th.

[Chris]

Rasual Butler. Raja Bell. Keith Bogans. Dorrell Wright. Quentin Richardson. Rodney Carney. Bobby Simmons.

Those are the names I would be looking at for the Celtics as my first tier of choices. Tony Allen would be in the second tier (near the top) along with players like Ime Udoka, Dominic McGuire, Quinton Ross, Sasha Pavlovic, Trenton Hassell, Larry Hughes, Damien Wilkins.

It all comes down to money.  If they can get guys like that for the vet minimum, then I think you let Tony walk.  If you have to use part of your MLE on them, then I think they keep Tony instead.  

I think they are going to be using the MLE to sign a replacement for Daniels as the 3rd wing, and perhaps a bit to replace Williams.  I doubt they will be able to afford to use part of it to pay a 4th/5th wing.

And this is all assuming they hold on to Ray Allen.  If he walks, then they almost need to use the bird rights on Tony to have some sort of depth.

[mgent]

I little over the deep end with the Tony love here.

Shane Battier
Dwayne Wade
Kobe Bryant
Aaron Afflalo
Thabo Sefolosha
Dahntay Jones
Andre Iguodala
Brandon Roy
Corey Brewer
Ronnie Brewer
Kirk Hinrich
Courtney Lee
Rip Hamilton

Sorry, Tony is not ALL-NBA anything if he were to become a starter somewhere. That's just not true.

I did mention Bryant and Wade. Battier plays the 3. Of the rest, only Corey Brewer is as lockdown as Tony. I'd take Tony's defense over the rest of that list any day.

I dont have specific players in mind, but I agree with Nick (and most experts) that Tony is a decent to good defender, who gambles too much.

Tony is not lock-down at all. When I think lock-down, I think the defender actually can shut down an opponent - like Jordan, Pippen, Artest, Bowen, Bell, etc in their prime.

In terms of potential, Tony has the foot speed to stay in front of people if he would gamble less. But he is also undersized unlike the above mentioned 2/3's, and lacks the wingspan to truely be lock down.

I think Tony is the definition of a lock-down defender.  He's just not as good as the guys you listed, seeing as they are some of the best of all time.

[Bankshot]

Seriously, a 2 year deal for no more than $3 million total would be reasonable imo. He is what he is.

This is what I was thinking.

[nickagneta]

If I'm spending the MLE it's on Travis Outlaw if he is healthy.

[Mr October]

I little over the deep end with the Tony love here.

Shane Battier
Dwayne Wade
Kobe Bryant
Aaron Afflalo
Thabo Sefolosha
Dahntay Jones
Andre Iguodala
Brandon Roy
Corey Brewer
Ronnie Brewer
Kirk Hinrich
Courtney Lee
Rip Hamilton

Sorry, Tony is not ALL-NBA anything if he were to become a starter somewhere. That's just not true.

I did mention Bryant and Wade. Battier plays the 3. Of the rest, only Corey Brewer is as lockdown as Tony. I'd take Tony's defense over the rest of that list any day.

I dont have specific players in mind, but I agree with Nick (and most experts) that Tony is a decent to good defender, who gambles too much.

Tony is not lock-down at all. When I think lock-down, I think the defender actually can shut down an opponent - like Jordan, Pippen, Artest, Bowen, Bell, etc in their prime.

In terms of potential, Tony has the foot speed to stay in front of people if he would gamble less. But he is also undersized unlike the above mentioned 2/3's, and lacks the wingspan to truely be lock down.

I think Tony is the definition of a lock-down defender.  He's just not as good as the guys you listed, seeing as they are some of the best of all time.

If Tony Allen is lockdown, shouldn't he be able to at least contain Wade, Bryant, JR Smith, Rip Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, Ben Gordon, Joe Johnson, Vince Carter, and so on?

He can't. But he can provide decent defense against them, make them work a little. In other words Tony Allen is a decent defensive player.

[mgent]

I little over the deep end with the Tony love here.

Shane Battier
Dwayne Wade
Kobe Bryant
Aaron Afflalo
Thabo Sefolosha
Dahntay Jones
Andre Iguodala
Brandon Roy
Corey Brewer
Ronnie Brewer
Kirk Hinrich
Courtney Lee
Rip Hamilton

Sorry, Tony is not ALL-NBA anything if he were to become a starter somewhere. That's just not true.

I did mention Bryant and Wade. Battier plays the 3. Of the rest, only Corey Brewer is as lockdown as Tony. I'd take Tony's defense over the rest of that list any day.

I dont have specific players in mind, but I agree with Nick (and most experts) that Tony is a decent to good defender, who gambles too much.

Tony is not lock-down at all. When I think lock-down, I think the defender actually can shut down an opponent - like Jordan, Pippen, Artest, Bowen, Bell, etc in their prime.

In terms of potential, Tony has the foot speed to stay in front of people if he would gamble less. But he is also undersized unlike the above mentioned 2/3's, and lacks the wingspan to truely be lock down.

I think Tony is the definition of a lock-down defender.  He's just not as good as the guys you listed, seeing as they are some of the best of all time.

If Tony Allen is lockdown, shouldn't he be able to at least contain Wade, Bryant, JR Smith, Rip Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, Ben Gordon, Joe Johnson, Vince Carter, and so on?

He can't. But he can provide decent defense against them, make them work a little. In other words Tony Allen is a decent defensive player.

I think he does contain guys very well.  No defender is gonna stop a top scorer every time.

[liam]

It depends on who else you can sign with his spot and if he'll take the minimum.

[Prof. Clutch]

Never thought I'd see myself write this, but, yes I think Tony should be re-signed for the minimum.  I hope he isn't playing this way solely because his basketball career depended on him having a solid season.  If he can continue to produce off the bench at the level he has this season then he's definitely worth it.

[CelticG1]

I think that at this point in the season, unless Tony emerges as a 6th man stud, lockdown defender in the playoffs, key component to a championship, then he will not get much money on the open market at all.

Any chance that Tony would be willing to take a one year contract at the minimum? If he finishes the season strong than he might have a chance to be a bigger component next year on the team and with that maybe find some interest from other teams. It's something that 2 players on our team similarly have done recently working out for one of them (Posey) and not so much for the other guy (Quis). These guys both risked a one year deal in hopes have generating interest around the league.

Now that I think about it it doesn't really make any sense. Just a thought that was going on in my head

[Evantime34]

I think the Celtics will be best served to resign their own to contract 133% of last years contract. Anyone that signs that isn't from this years team will have to either be a part of the MLE, the full MLE, or the vet minnimum. The likelihood we get a bunch of good players who are willing to make the minnimum is remote at best.