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Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2010, 05:33:29 PM »

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Well, he'd come cheap I would imagine.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2010, 06:23:06 PM »

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I like what Finley would bring off the court. We could use a veteran leader on our bench similar to the intangibles PJ and Posey gave us . Think he would provide a calming veteran presence.

We absolutely do not need a calming veteran presence on a team of veterans.

We could use a backup 3 that can shoot and defend.  Too bad he isn't that guy anymore.  He won't help, but it's the right idea.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2010, 06:42:12 PM »

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I bet you he'd knock TA out of the rotation if he was here.

When given over 10 minutes of playing time this year (20 times), he's shooting over 35% from 3.  That's the kind of floor spacing Doc would kill for when Pierce or Ray are out of the game, especially if the match-ups don't favor a Rondo-Nate line-up.

But he might just be cooked.  He's scored 5 pts total in his last 8 games and those all came against the Clippers.

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Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2010, 06:53:06 PM »

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Not saying I am against it, but lets remember Finley is like five years older then Rickey Davis and i think 4 more then antoine walker.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2010, 06:56:50 PM »

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Not saying I am against it, but lets remember Finley is like five years older then Rickey Davis and i think 4 more then antoine walker.

Not really the best examples, since neither of them did much to take care of their bodies.  But it is a decent point.  Still though, its better than the other options out there.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2010, 07:26:49 PM »

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We absolutely do not need a calming veteran presence on a team of veterans.


While we do indeed have a veteran team, I wouldn't consider either KG or Sheed "calming". I recall KG saying how important having PJ Brown in the locker room was. This despite also having a veteran team in 08 with the Big 3, Cassell, Posey, House, etc.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2010, 08:17:27 PM »

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hell yes i am 100 percent on board, we don't have much to lose at this point.

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Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2010, 08:20:39 PM »

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People on this board thought he was cooked going into last season, and he had a very solid year as a starter for the Spurs.  Taking him on to be something between our 9th and 11th man isn't a stretch. 

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2010, 08:46:42 PM »

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Nooooooo!!!!!!

How many washedup players can one team possibly have. PJ Brown went out in style. Sheed may yet redeem himself; however Finely should have hung it up 2 years ago. Is way too late for him to be of any use.


Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2010, 08:57:31 PM »

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People on this board thought he was cooked going into last season, and he had a very solid year as a starter for the Spurs.  Taking him on to be something between our 9th and 11th man isn't a stretch. 
I disagree, I thought Finley was abysmal last season and one of the main reasons San Antonio struggled. His inability to be a solid role player, along with a couple of other role players, destroyed that Spurs team. They were never good enough to compete for a title because of players like Finley. Even with a healthy Manu Ginobili.

Not that was Finley's fault. It was San Antonio's for asking fill a larger role for the team than he was capable of filling. In the correct role, a fifth or sixth wing, he is still a competent player.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2010, 08:59:44 PM »

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People on this board thought he was cooked going into last season, and he had a very solid year as a starter for the Spurs.  Taking him on to be something between our 9th and 11th man isn't a stretch. 
I disagree, I thought Finley was abysmal last season and one of the main reasons San Antonio struggled. His inability to be a solid role player, along with a couple of other role players, destroyed that Spurs team. They were never good enough to compete for a title because of players like Finley. Even with a healthy Manu Ginobili.

Not that was Finley's fault. It was San Antonio's for asking fill a larger role for the team than he was capable of filling. In the correct role, a fifth or sixth wing, he is still a competent player.

Right.  I wasn't saying that he was great last year or even filled the role that San Antonio wanted, but I was saying that he clearly wasn't so bad that he didn't deserve to be in the league. 

My point, therefore, was pretty much yours.  If he was now asked to play 5-10 mpg tops, hit some open threes, and play good team defense, he could probably do it.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2010, 09:06:32 PM »

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People on this board thought he was cooked going into last season, and he had a very solid year as a starter for the Spurs.  Taking him on to be something between our 9th and 11th man isn't a stretch. 
I disagree, I thought Finley was abysmal last season and one of the main reasons San Antonio struggled. His inability to be a solid role player, along with a couple of other role players, destroyed that Spurs team. They were never good enough to compete for a title because of players like Finley. Even with a healthy Manu Ginobili.

Not that was Finley's fault. It was San Antonio's for asking fill a larger role for the team than he was capable of filling. In the correct role, a fifth or sixth wing, he is still a competent player.

Right.  I wasn't saying that he was great last year or even filled the role that San Antonio wanted, but I was saying that he clearly wasn't so bad that he didn't deserve to be in the league. 

My point, therefore, was pretty much yours.  If he was now asked to play 5-10 mpg tops, hit some open threes, and play good team defense, he could probably do it.
My apologies, I misunderstood.

Re: How about Michael Finley?
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2010, 12:45:18 AM »

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People on this board thought he was cooked going into last season, and he had a very solid year as a starter for the Spurs.  Taking him on to be something between our 9th and 11th man isn't a stretch. 
I disagree, I thought Finley was abysmal last season and one of the main reasons San Antonio struggled. His inability to be a solid role player, along with a couple of other role players, destroyed that Spurs team. They were never good enough to compete for a title because of players like Finley. Even with a healthy Manu Ginobili.

Not that was Finley's fault. It was San Antonio's for asking fill a larger role for the team than he was capable of filling. In the correct role, a fifth or sixth wing, he is still a competent player.

If we acquired him, I'm fairly confident Doc would eventually slot him in as the 4th wing, bumping TA out of the rotation for all but the most difficult match-ups on D.

The lack of shooting/spacing off the bench clearly gives Doc fits.  I've seen how frustrated he looks when the ball-swing yields wide-open jumpers for Rondo, TA and Daniels.  I believe that's one reason why Doc is tolerant of Sheed's 3's: it's the only shot at spreading the floor and killing the traps teams throw at our guards off the pick and roll. 

And Finley's lack of rebounding isn't likely to ruffle many feathers.  Just look at Ray, Paul, Marquis and Sheed's positional rebounding rates: the rebounding bar has been set pretty low.

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