Why no minutes for Marcus Landry?

[gar]

Hard to know why Danny got Giddens and Walker if he was planning to keep TA and RA. Landry is a better fit for our current needs. Like him better than Scal at the 3 and Tony will be giving up 4 inches against LeBron. Don't see why people are so outraged at the idea that the guy might actually be useful. Until we find the next Posey he may be able to fill in. Paul needs a rest.

[Jon]

Hard to know why Danny got Giddens and Walker if he was planning to keep TA and RA. Landry is a better fit for our current needs. Like him better than Scal at the 3 and Tony will be giving up 4 inches against LeBron. Don't see why people are so outraged at the idea that the guy might actually be useful. Until we find the next Posey he may be able to fill in. Paul needs a rest.

Perhaps tonight that rings true.  However, in the long run when everyone is healthy, we're better off with Tony and Quis getting all backup minutes.  The contributions they make in other aspects of their games likely dramatically make up for any height inadequacies.  To think otherwise would be to suggest that Mikki Moore is a better center than Glen Davis because of height.  While I'd prefer not to see Baby at the 5, as last year proved, he's a much better alternative in a pinch due to overall talent than Moore. 

[arctic 3.0]

So if we don't get to see people play we then MUST assume that they have loads of talent and that the coaching staff has no idea what it is doing  and should play them so we as a collective entity can see them play and pass judgment on them so that then Danny Ainge can read this blog and decide to keep a player or not??

And just so that we are clear here with the facts

Delonte West was a first round draft pick that was a part of a college backcourt that virtually every national media writer considered the best in the nation that year

Delonte got loads of playing time from the momemt he arrived here

Delonte West was develop by this coaching staff into a decent professional combo guard

He did not just suddenly blossom as a player in Cleveland

Leon Powe like Michael Redd and Marquis Daniels were developed into the players they became by coaching staffs across the league

I can't believe you believe these players come out of college this good and miraculously force their way into rotations, the notion is preposterous

If we don't see them it because they are not yet ready to play NBA basketball or because a team is too stacked with talent in front of them to play

Both were Marcus Landry's problem in New York

And probably will be here

i'm sorry i don't believe i said any of the things you portray as my argument about talent assessment.

never said landey had any talent. simply said those of us who haven't seen should not make definitive judgments about their talent.
 never claimed we should play him or any one else.
never said proffesional evaluators should defer to bloggers.

never said he delonte bloomed in cleveland, just that his playing time in seattle was no indicator of his talent.

seriously your strawman arguments are just annoying. no need to reply. i'm out.

Then exactly what is your argument

That since I said he wasn't good enough to crack the New York rotation he probably wasn't good enough to crack ours

Or that I said he was an undrafted rookie so that I can assume he isn't tremendously talented

Did it ever occur to you that I am a huge college basketball fan and saw him play multiple times or that I am a avid professional basketball fan and have League Pass and watch some of his minutes this year

Excuse me if I blurred your message into something it isn't but through your own assumptions didn't you do the exact same thing to me

your original statement:
"I would love to know the reasoning behind why anyone here thinks that an undrafted rookie free agent that was a throw in in a deal to make salaries work and who only was good enough to play a total of 108 minutes on a team that is soooooo bad that they currently have the 5th worse record in the league is good enough to get ANY minutes under ANY circumstances on a team that is fighting for HCA in the playoffs"

my response:
 -judging a players NBA potential based on the criteria you gave (draft position and minutes played) is unsound.
-there are numerous undrafted players who make it in the league
-there are many young players who do not get minutes who later prove to be nba quality players
-our ability to judge these players is based on how much we get to see them play.

enjoy the game


 

[PLamb]

So if we don't get to see people play we then MUST assume that they have loads of talent and that the coaching staff has no idea what it is doing  and should play them so we as a collective entity can see them play and pass judgment on them so that then Danny Ainge can read this blog and decide to keep a player or not??

And just so that we are clear here with the facts

Delonte West was a first round draft pick that was a part of a college backcourt that virtually every national media writer considered the best in the nation that year

Delonte got loads of playing time from the momemt he arrived here

Delonte West was develop by this coaching staff into a decent professional combo guard

He did not just suddenly blossom as a player in Cleveland

Leon Powe like Michael Redd and Marquis Daniels were developed into the players they became by coaching staffs across the league

I can't believe you believe these players come out of college this good and miraculously force their way into rotations, the notion is preposterous

If we don't see them it because they are not yet ready to play NBA basketball or because a team is too stacked with talent in front of them to play

Both were Marcus Landry's problem in New York

And probably will be here

i'm sorry i don't believe i said any of the things you portray as my argument about talent assessment.

never said landey had any talent. simply said those of us who haven't seen should not make definitive judgments about their talent.
 never claimed we should play him or any one else.
never said proffesional evaluators should defer to bloggers.

never said he delonte bloomed in cleveland, just that his playing time in seattle was no indicator of his talent.

seriously your strawman arguments are just annoying. no need to reply. i'm out.

Then exactly what is your argument

That since I said he wasn't good enough to crack the New York rotation he probably wasn't good enough to crack ours

Or that I said he was an undrafted rookie so that I can assume he isn't tremendously talented

Did it ever occur to you that I am a huge college basketball fan and saw him play multiple times or that I am a avid professional basketball fan and have League Pass and watch some of his minutes this year

Excuse me if I blurred your message into something it isn't but through your own assumptions didn't you do the exact same thing to me

your original statement:
"I would love to know the reasoning behind why anyone here thinks that an undrafted rookie free agent that was a throw in in a deal to make salaries work and who only was good enough to play a total of 108 minutes on a team that is soooooo bad that they currently have the 5th worse record in the league is good enough to get ANY minutes under ANY circumstances on a team that is fighting for HCA in the playoffs"

my response:
 -judging a players NBA potential based on the criteria you gave (draft position and minutes played) is unsound.
-there are numerous undrafted players who make it in the league
-there are many young players who do not get minutes who later prove to be nba quality players
-our ability to judge these players is based on how much we get to see them play.

enjoy the game


 

My response

 - given the percentages of undrafted players making NBA rosters and given the percentages of undrafted NBA players that become rotational players and given the amount of players that get drafted later than 20 in the first round that become NBA players and then go on to become rotational players it is a very sound way to judge unknown talent because percentages say those players aren't good enough to become much of anything

  - I have seen Marcus Landry play quite a few times and he's not that good and fits into the criteria of judging players that are drafted low or not as all as being not that good and unable to get playing time to a tee

Have a good game.